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Should teenagers stand to being criminalized over how some of them treat their partners.

95 replies

celebritydiscodave · 03/09/2025 15:07

I ask this because the very vast majority of incidents of abuse are served out by their partners, and the very vast majority of partners are either teenagers too, or within five years.

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celebritydiscodave · 07/09/2025 11:52

Easyozy · 07/09/2025 11:15

This is one of those threads where it might actually have been a good idea to ask chat gpt to summarise because I cannot make any sense of it. Sorry OP, you are not being clear at all.

As for "OP", I would not have guessed that in one thousand years, but I don`t do forums, until now, and my telepathy is fairly rubbish too. That is really funny, and we share the same sense of humour it seems. Good one!!

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Swiftie1878 · 07/09/2025 12:56

If you want an actual discussion it would help if you facilitated it by being clear about what questions your answers refer to.
Since you seem either incapable of this, or intransigent about doing so, I’m out.
A shame, because I am interested in the subject matter.

ghostyslovesheets · 07/09/2025 13:05

this is like a discussion with AI

but you are wrong OP teens are arrested and prosecuted for abuse so your whole disjointed, odd cut and pasted argument is based on piffle

celebritydiscodave · 07/09/2025 16:47

That is exactly what I did do, for both posts, I used the quote function, everything was clearly on the page when I clicked on post. However, I do what I want to do, I am ordered around by nobody, dictated to by nobody either, Your sole interest is having the last word, you have had no interest whatsoever in the subject of this thread. It is great that everybody has their own opinion, and that I might on occasion be talking to myself sounds ridiculous to me on a topic as important as this. I anticipate that thousands will read every last word which I have written.. My posts are strengthened as semi stand alone contributions, conversations can tend to reducing any contribution to merely those two individuals. There may be a score of different views here, from a score of different individuals, and I am absolutely content to live with that. Your views are absolutely 100% fine with me, they may even be the norm. My interest is social philosophy, so my interest is absolutely not in the popular view. What everybody already thinks that they know is the very opposing corner to philosophical progression. I am rather anti the use of OP in the context which it is being used here, for it tends rather to getting personal, this place should simply be about making straight contributions, contributions worthy of being picked up upon by the world.

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celebritydiscodave · 07/09/2025 16:55

ghostyslovesheets · 07/09/2025 13:05

this is like a discussion with AI

but you are wrong OP teens are arrested and prosecuted for abuse so your whole disjointed, odd cut and pasted argument is based on piffle

  1. But you had to make something up which I am saying first- They are not prosecuted for under five years of disparity illegal sexual activity, many teenage boyfriends are getting away with rape where older individuals would be taken to task. and teenager on teenager sexual coercion is not even a crime.- Including results for teenager on teenager sexual coercion is not treated as a crime.
  2. Do you want results only for teenager on teenager sexual cohersion is not treated as a crime?
  3. Sexual Offences Act 2003
  4. Teenager on teenager sexual coercion is not treated as a crime
  5. In the UK, sexual coercion involving teenagers is not treated as a crime under the Sexual Offences Act 2003. This means that consensual sexual relationships between teenagers are not criminalized unless there is coercion, exploitation, or abuse o
ual coercion

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=dc3b1b46fc7a7d8fb9abc08a179b1a377fe5f6deef4af7efdee19319ee75d7ebJmltdHM9MTc1NzIwMzIwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=2607ef25-086e-6358-2452-fabb098e6206&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucHN5Y2hvbG9neXRvZGF5LmNvbS91cy9ibG9nL3Byb3RlY3RpbmctY2hpbGRyZW4tZnJvbS1zZXh1YWwtYWJ1c2UvMjAyMTAzL3doYXQtZXZlcnlvbmUtbmVlZHMtdG8tdW5kZXJzdGFuZC1hYm91dC1zZXh1YWw_bXNvY2tpZD0yNjA3ZWYyNTA4NmU2MzU4MjQ1MmZhYmIwOThlNjIwNg&ntb=1

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JHound · 08/09/2025 02:40

If drugs could morph into humans this the thread they would create.

PronounPenisMan · 08/09/2025 03:17

JHound · 08/09/2025 02:40

If drugs could morph into humans this the thread they would create.

😆

celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 08:10

What I want is for me to know, and is my concern, but actual discussions tend to eventually becoming off topic like this one is, and somebody always has to have the last word..

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Pissenlit · 08/09/2025 08:13

celebritydiscodave · 07/09/2025 16:47

That is exactly what I did do, for both posts, I used the quote function, everything was clearly on the page when I clicked on post. However, I do what I want to do, I am ordered around by nobody, dictated to by nobody either, Your sole interest is having the last word, you have had no interest whatsoever in the subject of this thread. It is great that everybody has their own opinion, and that I might on occasion be talking to myself sounds ridiculous to me on a topic as important as this. I anticipate that thousands will read every last word which I have written.. My posts are strengthened as semi stand alone contributions, conversations can tend to reducing any contribution to merely those two individuals. There may be a score of different views here, from a score of different individuals, and I am absolutely content to live with that. Your views are absolutely 100% fine with me, they may even be the norm. My interest is social philosophy, so my interest is absolutely not in the popular view. What everybody already thinks that they know is the very opposing corner to philosophical progression. I am rather anti the use of OP in the context which it is being used here, for it tends rather to getting personal, this place should simply be about making straight contributions, contributions worthy of being picked up upon by the world.

But you’re not using the ‘Quote’ function, you’re not tagging the posters you appear to be addressing, and you write as if you’re a particularly pompous drunk. Which means that your actual topic is lost.

ghostyslovesheets · 08/09/2025 11:38

Pissenlit · 08/09/2025 08:13

But you’re not using the ‘Quote’ function, you’re not tagging the posters you appear to be addressing, and you write as if you’re a particularly pompous drunk. Which means that your actual topic is lost.

I mean you aren’t even posting links that back you argument!

celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 13:36

I am sorry for you then, it is called psychological projection. Your soul interest is apparently in attempting to annoy folk, so far totally unsuccessfully in my case. I have already made detailed explanation as to why I have at least attempted to avoid this said same circumstance of wasting space. This is a thread which invites retaliation to it, and so therefor I have not made it more personal than it already is. .

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celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 14:06

KrisAkabusi · 03/09/2025 15:46

What do you mean. Do you think teenagers regularly get away with crime just because they are teenagers. Abuse is a crime, regardless of age. And what do you mean by "or within 5 years"? You mean 24 year olds? Why do you think they get special treatment?

Coercion for sex between teenagers is not illegal in the UK, under age sex, whilst illegal, is turned a blind eye to within five years of disparity, and it seems that teenage boys can almost routinely get away with forcing/raping their girlfriend. The police don`t want to criminalize teenagers, but a sharp shock at this advanced age is the only chance of changing anything.

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BMW6 · 08/09/2025 14:30

Is this the Twilight Zone? WTF is this person wittering on about? Is it ChatGpt on Acid? 😂😂

celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 17:23

Exactly, nobody ever thinks about this, and adolescent is not even in the adult vocabulary, they are still considered to being blameless children. Have you ever spoken with a victim???

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celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 17:24

BMW6 · 08/09/2025 14:30

Is this the Twilight Zone? WTF is this person wittering on about? Is it ChatGpt on Acid? 😂😂

Exactly my point, start talking about this and you are taken as being from another planet.

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Bogpinkbear · 08/09/2025 17:26

celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 17:23

Exactly, nobody ever thinks about this, and adolescent is not even in the adult vocabulary, they are still considered to being blameless children. Have you ever spoken with a victim???

Like the 19 year old victim of your 25 year old friend?

Plethorapeach · 08/09/2025 17:36

Read The Criminal Mind by Dr Duncan Harding a paediatric criminal psychiatrist, he has a very nuanced view of the need for criminal consequences in the age cohort you are speaking off. He speaks about both sides of the situation, where the criminal justice system was used too punitively and where it was not involved soon enough. I think you will find it fascinating @celebritydiscodave

celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 19:14

Thanks, I will try, the thing is though, according to my social worker friends, even at four years of age it can be the exception to turn a person around. The relationships which the mum has dragged them through by then can often have done life long harm. They tend to getting little to no help, neither the children, nor the mums.

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celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 19:16

Plethorapeach · 08/09/2025 17:36

Read The Criminal Mind by Dr Duncan Harding a paediatric criminal psychiatrist, he has a very nuanced view of the need for criminal consequences in the age cohort you are speaking off. He speaks about both sides of the situation, where the criminal justice system was used too punitively and where it was not involved soon enough. I think you will find it fascinating @celebritydiscodave

According to my social worker friends even at four years it is generally too late to entirely turn a person around. It is surely going to take something earth moving by mid teens.

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celebritydiscodave · 08/09/2025 19:20

Hankunamatata · 04/09/2025 16:41

There's actually some great material being used in high schools about coercive control and healthy relationships. Will see if I can find the links

Great, and about time. As terrible as older men can on occasion be there are plenty of suicides the territory of their own peer group, and the victim might on occasion be as much a victim either way.

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