Angela Rayner tax fail

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But it’s ok because she was just badly advised.
I’ll remember that excuse next time I fill in my tax return.

But still confused about one can have 2 main homes?

Of coruse she should resign. Pig in trough and worse because she spouts such nonsense. Another Minister blaming someone else. Tax advisers especially the ones that this women has access to will not have got this wrong.

I am no one at all and I knew trusts especially for children needs careful handling.

Shame on her and for blaming the advice. She surely would have asked again and again whether the advice was right. I supsect they advised it might be a grey area and the sniffing around personally for more tax savings whilst her party are taxing everything that isnt nailed down is a terrible look.

And of course we have a buget around the corner....

Hopefully her and Reeves will be gone soon but who on earth has experience to replace these two terrible examples of Ministers massively out of the depth and shafting all of us

The comments by the opposition parties have been more restrained than she herself has been on many occasions. The problem for her is how many times she has demanded others resign even if the transgressions were found to be non deliberate.
I looked myself to see if the information on properties with trusts for children was clear and it is crystal clear. I won’t post this as I see a PP already has.
The Telegraph first published the story, which then led to her repeated denial and now it is again supposedly someone else’s fault. Members of the public have to work these issues out for themselves.
Legal advisors can only advise on the information they are given. IF they gave wrong advice, with her full and correct disclosure of facts, she will sue. The latest news editions say she possibly has not legally taken her name off the deeds, she’s still saying she has.
This will roll on.

Either she is at fault or the system is at fault.

Both of which are her responsibility.

She has to go.

Deputy PM and HOUSING MINISTER cannot afford to make a mistake like this and not take the consequences.

That is assuming it was a mistake. She has an obviously complex housing situation. It was incumbent on her to take reputable advice and disclose all relevant circumstances. If the advice then was wrong, then that will save her reputation at least and she could return to politics later. That is what she is arguing at the moment. How plausible is it, though? My belief: not very. And until she can prove she was whiter than white and it was wholly somebody else's error, then the tax dodging accusations will (rightfully) not go away.

The child may well need the financial support that derives from her job.

She's acted reasonably IMO

Family life doesn't fit into neat boxes of 'home/not home' when you factor in divorce, kids, new partners and their families, before you even factor in the MP shizzle.

Given the amount of scrutiny she's under I would be super surprised if she had deliberately tried to pull a fast one.

And? Why undermine their privacy and dodge tax?

Is that available to everyone or just Rayner

I totally agree with you regarding this. Show the advice and name the company who gave it to you. I know its personal details BUT she is a high profile government minister its either that or resign.

I also see the poll is a majority for her to go. I find that interesting because MN to me is often left leaning.

But that is not, unfortunately for Rayner, a legal argument that can be stood up. However complicated, the law must be adhered to. She has demanded this of others many times.

Trust law is enormously complicated. You will only think it simple if you look at the headline advice/ information on the government website. Everything is simple if you stick to headlines.

The same for you championing her . She could kill an old lady and you would find an excuse . She isn’t fit to hold public office .

She'll be giving it to Sir Laurie Magnus before she publishes it on MN.

hattie43 you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever for saying I would champion a murderer.

I doubt that will be the case. Not impossible but very unlikely.

All that needs to happen is for an interviewer to ask her if she disclosed full details of the trust to her legal advisor before they provided any advice.

If the answer is no then she needs to resign or be sacked. If she claims she did then the ball is back in the advisor’s court to determine whether that’s true or not.

It was noticeable from the interview that this direct question wasn’t asked. I suspect that’s not by chance.

Has anyone ever tried to work out what HMRC rules really mean to YOU. I have and had to get professional advice because I couldnt work out what the wording meant.

She has access to the very BEST advice in the UK on this. Shame on her blaming others. She was like a rottweiler voicing her views on others and yet she is at it too...

Borris Johnson had about 500 of them but nobody gave that as reasons why he should've kept his job.

It was a very simple tax question for Rayner, on the SDLT1 submission that has caused the underpayment. Selecting property type 1 (residential) instead of 4 (residential additional) has meant £40k less for the Treasury. Nothing to do with the Trust directly, the Trusts lawyers or the beneficiaries of the Trust.

Now, should she have known that the creation of a Trust for her children meant she still had a beneficial interest in the share of the property transferred? Possibly not. Did she take advice on that point, I suspect not.

Labour has a blind spot about not being able to see what things look like to the electorate. For them, if they followed due process, as Sir K did with buying clothes for Lady C, they think it 's fine. It's not. Angela should have been able to see that having an £800,000 flat in Hove as her main residence would be problematic - not in her constituency, away from her children, an expensive property.

If she can afford an 800k flat nowhere near to where she needs to actually be, she can pay the stamp duty on it the grifting rat.

Vile woman turns my stomach.

Thats a shame. MN is more important than anyone else!

I mean - is anyone surprised she’s done this tho?! I’m not - she’s pretty awful. Hopefully he sacks her but I think KS wouldn’t dare to. He scared of his own shadow that man. 😂

It's not clear that she lied. She says she paid stamp duty as advised by a solicitor and that the solicitor advised her incorrectly.

I smell bullshit.

And the evidence is? If she lied to the legal advisor she can lie some more.

basically someone did a bobby axel rod style takedown