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Why is MIL like this?

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Chunkychips23 · 02/09/2025 09:58

Advice/rant

I’ve posted before about my MIL, who seemed to be replaced with a crueler, meaner version of herself when I had my first baby.

Things somewhat improved and I forgave her and moved forward. I didn’t hold a grudge although I knew I’d never get an acknowledgment or an apology from her. DH finally admitted that she was vile towards me and apologised on her behalf.

I’ve recently had my 2nd baby and things started off a lot better. She’d pretty much stopped with her weird behaviour and criticisms. She came over 24hrs postpartum even though I did ask just for that first day at home to recover, decompress and spend some time with both my children. I’d had a long labour which ended up in a Cat 1 due to haemorrhaging, narrowly avoiding a transfusion. I felt a bit pressured into having her over, but she said she’d come for 2hrs and go. She stayed the whole day and insisted on going for lunch, wanting to take my toddler and newborn, whilst I stayed home to recover. I said a firm no to my brand new baby going for a pub lunch, who I was exclusively breastfeeding. She took it well - previously that would have caused a meltdown about how she’s being left out and I’m blocking her from bonding.

Anyway, that was a tad annoying, but she was at least pleasant to me. She’d been over weekly to spend time with the kids, often without DH present and we’ve been getting along. It’s almost been like pre kids where she and I would happily spend time together DH. She’s not been helping with the kids which is fine, I don’t expect other people to, but she does post on social media saying how helpful she’s been and that I couldn’t do it without her, which was a bit annoying, but ok.

As time has gone by though, she’s started getting weird again. She’s become fixated on the fact I’m breastfeeding again. Little comments have started about how she thinks I should wean early and she desperately wants to give my baby solids. I caught her trying to give me 12wk old ice cream because “baby was staring and wanted it” She denied it, but there was chocolate ice cream on my babies romper. Then there’s the comments about how baby is really hungry as breastfeeding doesn’t fill them up enough and I nearly starved my 1st born because he was so small. I didn’t. He just small. Even now several months after being weaned, he’s still little. She’s still blaming breastfeeding.

MIL is now claiming she’s being left out again. I’m not sure how she is, as she’s coming over twice a week, gets to spend time with the kids with and without me (less so with baby though due to breastfeeding and I don’t trust her now) We’ve taken the kids to her house, been on day trips and meals out etc. I don’t know what she’s complaining about.

We had our wedding anniversary on Friday and my mum looked after the kids for a few hours. MIL has made it very clear she doesn’t like babysitting anyway, so we didn’t ask her. On our way back, my mum text to say my PIL’s had turned up. DH knew nothing about this. MIL said she didn’t want to feel left out on our anniversary. It’s our bloody wedding anniversary, I don’t see why she’d need to be included in that?! My baby had refused the bottles of expressed milk I’d left, so my mum had to cup feed him. No biggie, infant feeding was part of her long medical career, so she managed it fine. MIL sat there with a smug look on her face and said “well that’s why you should formula feed” I just ignored her. Despite cup feeding, he hadn’t had enough milk, so I went to feed him. She refused to hand him to me saying she was having cuddles as he’s her grandson too. I asked again politely to pass my baby back so I could feed him and she held on tighter and said no. I just said “I’m not asking” and had to snatch him back. He was screaming for me at this point.

Later on, DH posted some old pics on social media and of our wedding. His mum shared it with the caption “my son is the best husband” and then commented under his “I love our crazy life. Love you so much” It was literally a post about our marriage, not about her. I asked DH about this and he again said “yeah it’s weird, but she’s so scared about being left out” She has a tendency to invite herself to things anyway. DH arranged for dinner with friends we’d not seen in ages, she invited herself along. My birthday lunch, she tried to invite herself to. His birthday dinner with his friends (he’d already gone for dinner with her on his actual birthday) she turned up too. Even years ago now, when we arranged to go meet the celebrant for our wedding, she invited herself to that. It’s not like she’s never included unless she invites herself. She spends more time with and has way more access than most mothers of adult children do. She even tried coming to the hospital 45mins after I was out of surgery, with a cannula in and several drips. I told DH I’d get him kicked off the ward too if she came in. PIL’s in that situation whilst I’m naked and recovering is highly inappropriate, no matter how excited they are to see a new grandchild.

I could maybe understand the intensity if DH was her only child and these were her only Grandchildren, or even his only children, they’re not! She has other kids and lots of grandchildren, but for some reason it’s me that bares the brunt of it. She’s actively involved in all of their lives, so it’s not like she’s missing out on anything. DH is her favourite child and favourite son though, so I don’t know if that’s part of it?

I just want everyone to get along, but I don’t like feeling like MIL sees herself as integral to my marriage and motherhood. I’ve never blocked her from coming over, even when she was being a bitch with my 1st baby. DH gets just as annoyed, but really struggles to enforce boundaries.

It got better last time, but she’s gradually getting worse again. I don’t know what to do or say. I’m prepared to kick her out of my house if she starts getting nasty again, but it’s starting to make me feel anxious when we’re due to see her.

AIBU to feel the way I do and she’s just trying to be involved, just too pushy?

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outerspacepotato · 05/09/2025 13:08

Your husband would rather upset you than his mother. He's your problem, not your MIL.

You married a Mommy's boy who won't put up boundaries with her and he's totally enmeshed with her. Marriage counseling if you're really sick of him being his mother's son before he's your husband.

Chunkychips23 · 05/09/2025 13:54

outerspacepotato · 05/09/2025 13:08

Your husband would rather upset you than his mother. He's your problem, not your MIL.

You married a Mommy's boy who won't put up boundaries with her and he's totally enmeshed with her. Marriage counseling if you're really sick of him being his mother's son before he's your husband.

Absolutely spot on! He’d rather deal with my anger than his mummy’s tears when she doesn’t get her own way. We had a family day out yesterday, first in ages. She messaged him the entire day. I told him to get off his phone as she doesn’t need to get a blow by blow of what we’re doing. He said if he doesn’t message her back when she’s being needy, she gets upset and goes on and on about it.

I think he needs therapy to untangle himself from his mother. He’s more aware of her manipulation now, but still seems very reluctant to act on it.

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Candlesmess · 05/09/2025 14:20

You married a weak mummys boy.
So unattractive.
This is your life now and will be for as long as you accept it.
I feel sorry for you and your poor children.
Weak selfish men are the worst of fathers and husbands.
They always put whats best for them first.

For as long as you tolerate this, it will go on.🤷🏻‍♀️
Your own boundaries are very poor too.
You have tolerated far too much, so it continues.

MauriceTheMussel · 05/09/2025 14:21

Oh so fucking what if she gets upset with him. Have you ever said that to him? Fine, he’ll get a barrage of messages and missed calls from her…so? You don’t give in to a tantrumming toddler, do you? This is no different.

Tell him it’s all so ick that you can’t have sex with someone who has so little balls.

GabriellaMontez · 05/09/2025 14:27

And it sounds like you're becoming aware that Mummy's feelings are more important than yours.

How are you going to act on that?

Someone2025 · 05/09/2025 19:12

Chunkychips23 · 05/09/2025 12:35

She’s already decided she’s living with us, based on a promise DH made when he was 8yrs old! Even DH agrees that’s batshit and will be sticking her in a home 😂

From what you have said about your husband I would say she will definitely end up living with you

Someone2025 · 05/09/2025 19:13

Chunkychips23 · 05/09/2025 13:54

Absolutely spot on! He’d rather deal with my anger than his mummy’s tears when she doesn’t get her own way. We had a family day out yesterday, first in ages. She messaged him the entire day. I told him to get off his phone as she doesn’t need to get a blow by blow of what we’re doing. He said if he doesn’t message her back when she’s being needy, she gets upset and goes on and on about it.

I think he needs therapy to untangle himself from his mother. He’s more aware of her manipulation now, but still seems very reluctant to act on it.

Again, how did she know about your family day out…..your husband needs to have more control over what he tells her, he is a big part of the problem

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 05/09/2025 19:23

Chunkychips23 · 05/09/2025 13:54

Absolutely spot on! He’d rather deal with my anger than his mummy’s tears when she doesn’t get her own way. We had a family day out yesterday, first in ages. She messaged him the entire day. I told him to get off his phone as she doesn’t need to get a blow by blow of what we’re doing. He said if he doesn’t message her back when she’s being needy, she gets upset and goes on and on about it.

I think he needs therapy to untangle himself from his mother. He’s more aware of her manipulation now, but still seems very reluctant to act on it.

MOVE.

2-300 miles should do it.

The alternative is to leave him. He’s never going to pick you over his mother.

ICK.

ThatHappyBlueCritic · 05/09/2025 19:39

Definitely your husband needs therapy as that isn’t a healthy relationship and she’s only going to get worse as she gets older! Your husband needs to practise grey rocking which is being very vague when talking to mil so she doesn’t get all the details on your lives she currently gets and uses to get her own way. When she cries she’s being left out he needs to be firm that he’s an adult and she needs a hobby!

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 05/09/2025 23:32

ThatHappyBlueCritic · 05/09/2025 19:39

Definitely your husband needs therapy as that isn’t a healthy relationship and she’s only going to get worse as she gets older! Your husband needs to practise grey rocking which is being very vague when talking to mil so she doesn’t get all the details on your lives she currently gets and uses to get her own way. When she cries she’s being left out he needs to be firm that he’s an adult and she needs a hobby!

He doesn’t want to. He’s actively choosing to placate his mother.

Chunkychips23 · 06/09/2025 08:27

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 05/09/2025 23:32

He doesn’t want to. He’s actively choosing to placate his mother.

He doesn’t see it as a therapy issue, just “it’s the way she is” but is aware she’s too much. He feels beholden to her.

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Chunkychips23 · 06/09/2025 08:33

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 05/09/2025 19:23

MOVE.

2-300 miles should do it.

The alternative is to leave him. He’s never going to pick you over his mother.

ICK.

We moved a couple of years ago back towards the city and she cried her eyes out. Tried every tactic under the sun and guilt trip to make us stay in the area. “What about me? I’m getting old, I will need you and you’ll be far away” and “I finally had all my children close by again and you’re leaving me” and “I’m your support network, you’re not going to cope without me” and “how am I supposed to see you regularly, it’s too far to drive”

We moved 45mins away. She didn’t give a crap that it meant my husbands commute was now 30mins, rather than 90mins to his workplace. All about her. That’s when DH slowly started to see what she’s like. She refused to see us for 8wks after we moved. It was heavenly!

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PollyDarton1 · 06/09/2025 08:53

I’ve got the major ick on your behalf OP.

It’s no lie that your MIL is crackers and probably a raging narcissist, but your DH is the definition of a sap here. He is actively choosing his bonkers mother over you and your children’s needs. At best he needs to go low contact with a fucktonne of therapy, at worst he needs to go no contact and you guys move as far away as you can from her.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/09/2025 09:18

I remember posting on your thread about your mum's milestone birthday when you were heavily pregnant and unwell and your DH deciding last minute to attend a sporting event instead, meaning that it was almost impossible for you to get to the restaurant. He did change his mind in the end, but it was very was obvious how he always put his mum's wants and needs above yours and that he wasn't in the least grateful for all the help and support that you both get from your mum.

Currently, it's easier and less hassle for him to upset you than it is for him to say no to his mother. You need to change this dynamic. Get angry with him. He has a lot of ground to make up.

Chunkychips23 · 06/09/2025 09:27

thepariscrimefiles · 06/09/2025 09:18

I remember posting on your thread about your mum's milestone birthday when you were heavily pregnant and unwell and your DH deciding last minute to attend a sporting event instead, meaning that it was almost impossible for you to get to the restaurant. He did change his mind in the end, but it was very was obvious how he always put his mum's wants and needs above yours and that he wasn't in the least grateful for all the help and support that you both get from your mum.

Currently, it's easier and less hassle for him to upset you than it is for him to say no to his mother. You need to change this dynamic. Get angry with him. He has a lot of ground to make up.

His mum has literally moulded him into the perfect son for herself. He is inherently selfish, but has worked on that to do and be better over the years. He did start going to therapy for his issues, but is yet to address his mummy issues. He sees it as “she’s just a boomer, they’re all like that, your mum oversteps at times” Course she does! Sometimes she can really piss me off. But the difference is I address that with her when she does and even if she doesn’t agree with me, she’ll respect my boundaries. They just don’t talk about issues, ever!

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rainbowstardrops · 06/09/2025 09:46

I think I remember that post too and I thought at the time, what a prick he was. I haven’t changed my mind. He’s blatantly and repeatedly putting his mother above you and his children and I’d bloody wipe the floor with him!
He’s an adult, he can choose to put his phone down and he can choose to button his mouth and not blab everything you’re doing to her. He’s can also choose to ignore her crocodile tears and tantrums.
It’s time to get firm OP if you ever want things to change.
Oh and if my MIL had refused to hand over my crying, hungry baby, she’d have been shown the bloody door!

99bottlesofkombucha · 06/09/2025 09:48

Chunkychips23 · 06/09/2025 09:27

His mum has literally moulded him into the perfect son for herself. He is inherently selfish, but has worked on that to do and be better over the years. He did start going to therapy for his issues, but is yet to address his mummy issues. He sees it as “she’s just a boomer, they’re all like that, your mum oversteps at times” Course she does! Sometimes she can really piss me off. But the difference is I address that with her when she does and even if she doesn’t agree with me, she’ll respect my boundaries. They just don’t talk about issues, ever!

Once again I say change what is in your power to change op. This weekend, go out for half the day with baby and do. Not. Let. Him. Come. Say, no we tried family time last weekend and you messaged your mum nonstop and told me you’d feel bad if you didn’t. Let me know when you’re prepared to mute your mum for a few hours and spend some time with us, but until then we go out alone as I’m no longer willing to put up with that, and you are not coming today. I am only going on family outings that do not include your mum, I didn’t marry her.

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 06/09/2025 10:01

My mil was a mixed bag too. I gave her space (low contact) when she was badly behaved and spent more quality time with her when she was well behaved. She soon got the hint.

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 06/09/2025 10:14

She sounds like she’s got nothing in her life apart from family. Does she have a job? Hobbies? Friends?

Chunkychips23 · 06/09/2025 10:22

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 06/09/2025 10:14

She sounds like she’s got nothing in her life apart from family. Does she have a job? Hobbies? Friends?

She retired when she was 40, so hasn’t worked in 30yrs. FIL is quite well off, so she didn’t want or need to work. She has friends and plenty of hobbies. She sees us when she’s bored and has nothing else on, but still spends her time stressing over seeing my kids and DH. She’s one of them who is always far too busy to help, but has all the time in the world if it’s to just cuddle & play with the kids.

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florizel13 · 06/09/2025 10:54

I'm a mother in law...I can hardly believe this!
she's got a cheek when she won't even babysit! Your husband needs to get tough with her!

Zucker · 06/09/2025 16:36

Do you really think when push comes to shove that he will tell his mother (the mother he is currently beholden to), that she can't live with you?

Of course he won't. If you don't make changes you will be this womans carer.

TulipsTwoLips · 06/09/2025 18:04

I’m another who thinks he would struggle to put her into a home if she needed care later on.

You need to be firm with him and make it very clear how this is affecting your relationship. Tell him you can’t tell him anything as he tells his mum everything. Go out without him every time so she doesn’t turn up expecting to join you. Go out with the children if she is rude to you in your own home. Confront each and every comment.

He needs to see that you are being serious and that if he doesn’t like it and needs to pacify his mum all the time he needs to move out. Actions speak way louder than words.

Summerhut2025 · 04/10/2025 20:26

OMG move away from this woman now, she’s insane! Let the other kids deal with her it’s their turn

Chunkychips23 · 05/10/2025 08:42

Summerhut2025 · 04/10/2025 20:26

OMG move away from this woman now, she’s insane! Let the other kids deal with her it’s their turn

I’d love to, but DH is still attached by the umbilical cord 😂

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