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Virginia Giuffre

63 replies

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 10:04

No part of me will ever believe that was a suicide. That was every bit a murder. MSM are complicit by going along with lie.

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HoskinsChoice · 31/08/2025 11:01

🤣 Do you know anything at all about her? Or the very long standing mental health issues that are well documented by Virginia herself?

It amazes me that people fall for this conspiracy theory shit. Give your head a wobble.

Endofyear · 31/08/2025 13:01

I think it's perfectly plausible that she unfortunately died by suicide. She had longstanding mental health issues, probably on account of the traumatic life experiences she had. What evidence do you have to suspect foul play?

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 13:41

It's actually a sign of lack of thinking skills to believe this bs. She issued a very clear statement saying she was not suicidal and that if anything happened to her it was foul play. They took her out. As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident? If so, there isn't much hope.
She was a liability so they murdered her. Like Diana.
Easy to say she had MH issues but the woman purposely put out a statement. I'm going with her not the bs fallacy of suicide which she warned us about.
The powers that be have a track record of major lies. Think "weapons of mass destruction " prior to invasion of Iraq...for oil. Only a fool would believe anything coming out as 'official'. Think. For yourself. The MSM is majorly compromised. Not my mind needing a wobble.

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Ponoka7 · 31/08/2025 13:44

I wouldn't rule out murder, but
"She issued a very clear statement saying she was not suicidal and that if anything happened to her it was foul play"
She never took Andrew down as he should have been, this could have been a last attempt to.

HappySummerDays · 31/08/2025 13:46

Who do you think took Diana out? Prince Philip ?

BookwormDadUK · 31/08/2025 13:47

But... why? She'd already made her allegations, and written the book. What would the Royal Family have to gain by killing her at this stage? With Diana, there's a clear motive (particularly if she was pregnant), but in the case of Virginia hadn't the horse long bolted?

MaggieBsBoat · 31/08/2025 13:47

I actually agree OP. This is how it works. For centuries. Undermine women and make those we disagree with look unhinged and/or hysterical. Nowadays we don’t put them in asylums but the song remains the same. Horrible.

MissMoneyFairy · 31/08/2025 13:50

Who murdered her?

piperatthegates · 31/08/2025 13:53

I don't know about Virginia Giuffre I haven't looked into it but no one forced Diana to get into a car with a drunk driver and fail to put her seatbelt on!!

Overtheatlantic · 31/08/2025 13:55

Could you possibly make your point without insulting those who don’t share your opinion?

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 31/08/2025 13:56

MissMoneyFairy · 31/08/2025 13:50

Who murdered her?

FB, conspiracy theories, dearie me🙄

ShesTheAlbatross · 31/08/2025 13:56

I disagree with you. What’s the benefit? She’d already spoken out. Unless you think there was more that she never said, but it doesn’t seem likely, given everything, that she held things back.

Epstein on the other hand. Guards who happened to be asleep, his cell mate was moved out, a few mins of conveniently missing tape? I could easily be persuaded he was murdered.

InOverMyHead84 · 31/08/2025 13:57

I am inclined to believe her death was rather convenient for certain parties.

FatherFrosty · 31/08/2025 13:58

piperatthegates · 31/08/2025 13:53

I don't know about Virginia Giuffre I haven't looked into it but no one forced Diana to get into a car with a drunk driver and fail to put her seatbelt on!!

This.

Diana was manipulated by her family and Martin bashir into getting rid of her security
it wasn’t convenient for them at all. Charles and Diana were happily co parenting, and things for Harry and William were looking settled.
ultimately she died because she got into a (poorly made) car with a drunk driver and not wearing a seatbelt.

Lifestooshort71 · 31/08/2025 14:01

FatherFrosty · 31/08/2025 13:58

This.

Diana was manipulated by her family and Martin bashir into getting rid of her security
it wasn’t convenient for them at all. Charles and Diana were happily co parenting, and things for Harry and William were looking settled.
ultimately she died because she got into a (poorly made) car with a drunk driver and not wearing a seatbelt.

⬆️ 100%

tripleginandtonic · 31/08/2025 14:03

Diana wasn't a liability. They were already split up. No doubt at all that was an accident, she died due to not wearing a seat belt.

tripleginandtonic · 31/08/2025 14:04

ShesTheAlbatross · 31/08/2025 13:56

I disagree with you. What’s the benefit? She’d already spoken out. Unless you think there was more that she never said, but it doesn’t seem likely, given everything, that she held things back.

Epstein on the other hand. Guards who happened to be asleep, his cell mate was moved out, a few mins of conveniently missing tape? I could easily be persuaded he was murdered.

Or allowed to commit suicide

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 14:05

Diana was murdered. For multiple reasons. Listen to ex-MI5 officer Annie Machon on why:

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CitizenZ · 31/08/2025 14:06

Diana was being drove at reckless speed by a drunk driver without a seatbelt. She would have and I quote "Almost certainly have lived if she was wearing her seatbelt" How on earth anyone can equate that to murder, is beyond me.

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 14:07

CitizenZ · 31/08/2025 14:06

Diana was being drove at reckless speed by a drunk driver without a seatbelt. She would have and I quote "Almost certainly have lived if she was wearing her seatbelt" How on earth anyone can equate that to murder, is beyond me.

She was murdered

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wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 14:08

InOverMyHead84 · 31/08/2025 13:57

I am inclined to believe her death was rather convenient for certain parties.

Absolutely.

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Lampzade · 31/08/2025 14:09

InOverMyHead84 · 31/08/2025 13:57

I am inclined to believe her death was rather convenient for certain parties.

Yep

SaladAndChipsForTea · 31/08/2025 14:17

Wasn't that post six years ago?

And in the last few months of her life her mental health had declined to the point she was forbidden from seeing her own kids? She was in a bus crash that wasn't reported despite supposedly having contracted serious injuries from it?

Playing devils advocate, given the way the recent news stories about her personal life, anyone who would have "benefitted" from her suicide would have stood to gain more from her being alive and the stories that were coming out against her and discrediting her current mental health and reliability.

BettysRoasties · 31/08/2025 14:20

This explains why Asda was out of tin foil this morning.

Bambamhoohoo · 31/08/2025 14:27

I think the main thing this fails to acknowledge in the mix of suspicion vs reality is that these things are far more likely happen to happen to these highly unusual people.
trauma and Serious mental illness leads to poor decision making, suicidal ideation and risk taking. The increased risk of addiction, the chaotic lifestyle they may lead- these are all increased risk factors.

you could stand back and summise (as I’m sure many did) even a few years ago that VGs life was never likely to continue as happy healthy one. This was a woman who only knew chaos.

Murdering someone who had already taken the money and sold the story makes no sense. It’s not even a thing that happens- who would want her dead? Prince Andrew? He doesn’t hold the sort of power to get someone killed and covered up- and, relevant for Diana- no royal does.