To be starting to worry that Reform will win next GE?

[TortoiseMantle]

The polls have shown a consistent lead. Is there any realistic chance of Reform actually winning the next election?

I vote Labour, but it’s hard to see how they’ve managed to throw away such a lead in just a year, and it’s hard to see how their polling improves. The Tories maybe have more opportunity for improving, but we’re going to see a Reform government, aren’t we? Nigel Farage is going to be our next PM.

Oh it’s you again! The one who tried to tell me not to say ‘robotic’ lol. Thats rich coming from you 😂

And where did I say it was acceptable?? Please go back to my post and you will see that I actually said that I don’t agree with that sort of behaviour from either side! Again just a non argument from you!!

And the antifas and stand up to racism shouting ‘Nazi scum’ at concerned locals are also scum! And again here you are calling it ‘nonsense’ because people have genuine concerns! People like you who try to dismiss concerns of the general public are the reason why reform are so popular!

And yes we have non immigrant racists too! Doesn’t mean we should accept more coming via boats!!!!

Never said it was. Just the left like to play the victim card but are ok to call people ‘Nazi’ and ‘racist’ for having a different opinion to them!

“Yes but” is always the beginning of a defence. Deflecting onto the behaviour of another group is a very transparent way of saying that kind of disgusting behaviour is OK. It’s indefensible and outrageous regardless of its source.

I honestly don’t care about your opinion. I don’t take people like you seriously who tell me not to say certain things because ‘you don’t like it’ seriously!

Again if you can’t point out where I said that behaviour is ok (which I didn’t) then I will not be reading anymore of your replies to me!

I agree. They are extremely goady.

Have people been banned then?

Will Angela defect?

The Democrats were similarly complacent and high-minded aboutTrump! Look where that got them…

I don’t and was realistic about the massive amount of work they had to do and that it would probably take the whole of their parliament to make inroads on.

Nope, your inability to condemn says it all, just more "Whataboutery" instead of dealing with the video linked too.

No need for anything else.

Exactly.
And the same is happening again right this minute.
Reform is backed by the same people who've backed the Trump/Vance campaign in the US. They don't give a shit about national identity or the people. Ultimately it's all about deregulating to the max. Guess who'll suffer? Everyday workers whilst NF and co will swan off into the sunset with their billionaire pals.

You’re quite right. That particular poster seems to think they’re in charge of any political threads, so much so I suspect they are being paid to do so. They wouldn’t admit to it in a thousand years of course.

Resolute 1850 is pretty worrying, based in the same building as Reform. Lots of Project 2025 crossovers.

Purpose & positioning: Both are conservative policy projects meant to arm a political movement with a governing blueprint rather than a normal “think-tank only” research role. Project 2025 is Heritage’s transition playbook for a conservative U.S. administration; Resolute 1850 is a Reform-linked UK outfit building a policy platform and support ecosystem.
Ecosystem building (not just papers): Each tries to build the infrastructure around policy—training, staffing, events, and networks. Project 2025 explicitly pairs a massive policy tome with training and a personnel/vetting effort; Resolute 1850 has raised money, is hiring, and plans marquee events to professionalise the movement.
Transatlantic conservative ties: Both cultivate cross-Atlantic links. Project 2025 is the hub of a large U.S. conservative coalition; reporting on Resolute 1850 highlights fundraising and relationships with U.S. conservative donors/allies.
Administrative/state-power agenda: Each centers on reshaping how the state works. Project 2025 proposes consolidating executive power and “deconstructing” parts of the federal bureaucracy; coverage of Resolute 1850 describes a drive to shrink state services and re-tool public-sector priorities.
Culture-war planks: Both stress DEI/“anti-woke” reversals and related cultural policies. Project 2025 details rollbacks across education, gender policy, and more; reporting on Resolute 1850 says it would oppose DEI and pursue allied cultural aims.
Branding and symbolism: Resolute 1850’s name reportedly nods to HMS Resolute (launched 1850)—the source of the Oval Office’s Resolute desk—signalling a U.S.–UK conservative kinship theme; Project 2025 explicitly revives Heritage’s Mandate for Leadership tradition.

Which poster expanding the quotes brings up a lot of posters

Over my head I'm afraid

I have been pointing out the crossovers between P'25 and Reform's agenda on many threads for months. MAGA says 'jump', Reform says 'how high'. I think that bit is completely underestimated by the general public. Oh the irony for a politician who's built his entire image on 'sovereignty'...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2025/sep/04/nigel-farage-clashes-with-democrat-members-over-free-speech-video

That is quite frightening reading that. They are extremely organised.

Could not agree more - smoke and mirrors have been used by many a politician. We are at a cross roads on where we stand on care and community - I looked at unemployment numbers for August across EU and it stood at 1.6 million in the UK and 4 % which given the EU stats isn't even in the top 30 across Europe. While scare mongering tactics are evident everywhere .. I have to add I would wNt to see the demise Immediately of hotels for migrants ( we had Thai boat ppl , Kosovo and now afghan nationals over many years) we have to include our mum's input on safety as no one sees this of those coming from war torn countries that hate or spite - mums who are either working full time, part time or just supporting family given 30 years of waiting to have a child or children. We are taxed to the hilt on savings, earnings, or what we buy, I am 64 and was a foster mum being a single mum after divorce and had to work full time. It doesn't matter now who brings up 'baby' it's now who can afford baby and babys needs. But after disproportion of wealth in the UK ( can only say that as live here, born here and dug dirt here) we are being sold another Brexit - we do not need to give up on rights to sort out boats ! It's a tactic to gain control - governments neet to step up! But closing SEND needs and making us pay insurance on top of what we already pay ?? I cannot vote reform - I looked after my elderly mother as she looked after my.kids while I worked full time ...she was then 60 years old. I lost my pension at 60 and then it was 65 and now it is 67 going.g to 68 years..we cannot continue on the sperm diners who really care not for us...I vote for NG England of despots ..I vote for his 20 year old daughter ..but not him ..sorry ..my dad was RAF not a an alcoholic stockbrokers some who went to private school and wants to keep pubs open ...call me a twat ...and I call you the joker of believers👍

Wouldn’t surprise me at all. They’re quite happy to talk the talk when someone raises concerns about immigration but when one of the left quite openly said on another thread (that this same poster was very prevalent on) that they are happy to sacrifice the safety of women and children to allow mass illegal immigration, that poster stood by and said sweet FA!

What the fuck are you talking about??? I clearly stated somewhere that I don’t agree with what they did 🙄 You seem extremely goady and try to dismiss what other people who don’t agree with you say! Says it all really

I think there are quite a few that are genuinely panicking tbh. They've been poking the bear for a good while and now the bear is awake they're realising how fucked they are!

If only the nutters on the right would cancel out the nutters on the left. Sadly, the reality is that Reform will probs get in and we'll all suffer in this points scoring game.

Maybe conservatives will learn from ours mistakes and come back ready to do a proper job in 4 years .
I was hoping labour might improve,but it's not looking likely with recent shuffles