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AIBU to be proud of my DS for protecting a group of girls.

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H0210zero · 27/08/2025 20:35

My DS is 12 however he's well built bigger then some grown men. But has long hair so sometimes from behind looks like a girl. Back in June as he was waiting for a bus from school with a small group of female friends. One of his friends began to get hassled by a drunk man looked as though he was also on some sort of drugs. Who was getting very provocative with her. Scaring her. She is 13 so you can imagine the fear. I don't think at this point he had realised my son was a male. This girl and a few others had asked the man to leave them alone. He tried at one point to snatch a phone and my DS just had enough he does boxing as a hobby and warned this man to leave the girls alone the man mocked him calling him a pansy due to his hair. Then tried to grab an 11 year old girls boobs making her cry. Sneering at them. My son took a swing and knocked the man out cold. Some adults did appear shortly after and kept an eye on the man who was passed out and called Police and ambulance. The idiot was fine just a bruised ego and a bust lip. Police arrested him for theft (he'd attacked someone else further along the street and took their phone) possession if class A drugs and also indecent assault on a minor. We were told he was already on the sex offenders list and not meant to be near a school. The two police officers shook my son's hand for stopping him going further then made a point of making it clear to the guy when he came round that the 12 year old who he called a pansy was the one who laid him out cold.

The AIBU is because just this week I bumped into one of the other kids parents. (A girl who wasn't touched and had managed to back away from the man). Other parents have sent him chocolates and thanked him for protecting the girls. This mother however berated me for allowing my son to learn to fight, because in her view he could have made the situation worse if the man and retaliated and hurt him or the other kids and he could have had a weapon. She seemed really put out when I said I was proud of him as if she expected me to tell him off. She seemed to think the kids should have tried to stay calm and ignore the man until the bus arrived and they could be safe. She had no consideration for the few girls that had already been grabbed and groped or nearly had their phone stolen or the fact the man was already a sex offender. She expects them to "hold on" and put up with it till an adult arrives. AIBU to be proud of my boy. He stood up for girls who couldn't despite the risks.

OP posts:
PinsAndfg · 28/08/2025 10:04

ittakes2 · 28/08/2025 09:57

They were in at a bus stop not trapped in a room - I don't understand why they put up with this escalating behaviour and did not just walk away.

Have you heard of the one punch charity? promoting how one punch can lead to death? If your son had of hit this man in a part of his head or if he'd fallen and died after hitting his head on the curb .... you do realise that your son would have had to face the criminal consequences and his life would have forever been changed.

If your son wants to make a difference I think some advice on deescalating situations would be useful for him. Being able to use his head to defuse situations in future would make him a hero in everyone's eyes.

A good defense barrister could have argued that he was doing it to protect others. And it's not DS's fault if appropriate force was used and pervert has an eggshell skull

Whosunreasonable · 28/08/2025 10:18

Ilikewinter · 27/08/2025 22:28

No reply from the OP?? ...... I can't imagine the Police shaking his hand for knocking someone out with a punch - I thought boxers had it drummed into them not to react like that.

They do. Any boxer especially kids with a decent trainer will always be told "your fists are now weapons, self defense(if someone hits you first) is one thing but NEVER throw the first punch..

PinsAndfg · 28/08/2025 10:43

Whosunreasonable · 28/08/2025 10:18

They do. Any boxer especially kids with a decent trainer will always be told "your fists are now weapons, self defense(if someone hits you first) is one thing but NEVER throw the first punch..

Legally you're allowed to strike preemptively if you feel that you are in danger. OP's son defending vulnerable young women. Wouldn't be in public interest for the CPS to prosecute him. And even so, defense barrister would get him off

CallMeFlo · 28/08/2025 10:50

The two police officers shook my son's hand for stopping him going further then made a point of making it clear to the guy when he came round that the 12 year old who he called a pansy was the one who laid him out cold

And in today's episode of things that didnt happen......

Mustbethat · 28/08/2025 10:52

PinsAndfg · 28/08/2025 10:43

Legally you're allowed to strike preemptively if you feel that you are in danger. OP's son defending vulnerable young women. Wouldn't be in public interest for the CPS to prosecute him. And even so, defense barrister would get him off

I agree.

however that is for an investigation/CPS/court to decide.

The chances of police shaking someone’s hand and say well done for laying someone out cold with no investigation as to the facts are slim to none.

they arrest first, establish what has actually happened, and then decide whether the assault is self defence or otherwise defensible.

o/p’s son assaulted someone. The police can’t unilaterally decide he’s assaulted the “right” kind of person.

especially if they guy was out cold. Until he’s been assessed at hospital they would have no idea if there are brain bleeds or skull fractures- so chances are it would be treated as a “potential fatal” until the extent of injuries assessed.

so the son would be taken to the station to at least get a statement, if not arrested until the facts established.

so yeah. That.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 28/08/2025 10:54

The police shook his hand?

The other guy was unconscious but they waited for other adults to come and call the police?

If any of this is true, going straight from telling the guy to stop, to punching him out cold is mental. Surely you call the police / run away first. The boy could have killed the guy. Yes he might have been able to get away with self defence as a defence to avoid prosecution / a sentence but would you really want your teen going through that??

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 28/08/2025 10:55

And she is right the guy could have had a knife, or a gun, or a syringe, or anything, I wouldn't encourage your son to think it's OK to do this in case it ends badly for him next time

DiscoBob · 28/08/2025 10:59

He 'knocked him out cold?' so the man went unconscious when he hit his head on the floor?!

Your son is lucky he didn't get done for manslaughter. I know it is brave and the right thing to do but knocking people unconscious is never a good idea.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 28/08/2025 11:10
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The police told your son the bloke was a sex offender?

Cherrysoup · 28/08/2025 11:12

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 21:22

Especially if it happened in Emmerdale.

You jest, but a bloke knocked out a stranger in a drunken fight near me, one punch (the video is called something like one punch murderer, we had to show it to kids at school) and the stranger fell back onto a bollard, cracked his head, died. It’s not the only time I’ve heard of this.

Possibly the OP has over exaggerated, I can’t imagine the police would say anything about the offender being a sex offender to a 12 year old. I’d be very surprised, given data protection etc.

PinsAndfg · 28/08/2025 12:36

Mustbethat · 28/08/2025 10:52

I agree.

however that is for an investigation/CPS/court to decide.

The chances of police shaking someone’s hand and say well done for laying someone out cold with no investigation as to the facts are slim to none.

they arrest first, establish what has actually happened, and then decide whether the assault is self defence or otherwise defensible.

o/p’s son assaulted someone. The police can’t unilaterally decide he’s assaulted the “right” kind of person.

especially if they guy was out cold. Until he’s been assessed at hospital they would have no idea if there are brain bleeds or skull fractures- so chances are it would be treated as a “potential fatal” until the extent of injuries assessed.

so the son would be taken to the station to at least get a statement, if not arrested until the facts established.

so yeah. That.

So this is a "wind up" as they say?

ObtuseMoose · 28/08/2025 12:49
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RatherTardy · 28/08/2025 14:04

Anyone else wondering whether mnhq/Clara read the op of this thread?

Kreepture · 28/08/2025 16:16

RatherTardy · 28/08/2025 14:04

Anyone else wondering whether mnhq/Clara read the op of this thread?

i did report the thread, and it was Clara who sent the 'we're taking a look' reply..

Clearly they think its 100% true, and not absolute bullshit...

BallerinaRadio · 28/08/2025 16:24

Kreepture · 28/08/2025 16:16

i did report the thread, and it was Clara who sent the 'we're taking a look' reply..

Clearly they think its 100% true, and not absolute bullshit...

All the deleted posts by MNHQ would suggest so. I couldn't possibly comment I don't want another ban 😂😂

PansyPotter84 · 28/08/2025 17:40

Frankly even if the guy ended up dead, if it was one punch that did it, it would still be reasonable force in defence of another if a girl is being molested.

Its the action that has to be reasonable, and one punch is reasonable where
MAN is sexually assaulting a GIRL.

Mustbethat · 28/08/2025 17:47

PansyPotter84 · 28/08/2025 17:40

Frankly even if the guy ended up dead, if it was one punch that did it, it would still be reasonable force in defence of another if a girl is being molested.

Its the action that has to be reasonable, and one punch is reasonable where
MAN is sexually assaulting a GIRL.

Yes, but it would still need to go through due process.

if you punch someone and kill or injure them, the police don’t just shake your hand and you get to go home. It’s not a case of “oh you hit him because he was groping girls, well done mate”- they still have to establish that is actually what happened.

there’s statements, witnesses, likely you’ll be arrested so you can have legal counsel, and there will be an investigation to make sure what you say happened is actually what happened.

o/p seems to have missed all that out of her post. And I am willing to bet she’s not coming back…

H0210zero · 28/08/2025 17:55

Rosesanddaffs · 27/08/2025 20:41

She should be grateful he was there. I’d be super proud of him and well done to you for raising a lovely boy xx

Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Her daughter was simply not touched because my son put himself between this drunk and the girls.

OP posts:
CurlewKate · 28/08/2025 17:58

PansyPotter84 · 28/08/2025 17:40

Frankly even if the guy ended up dead, if it was one punch that did it, it would still be reasonable force in defence of another if a girl is being molested.

Its the action that has to be reasonable, and one punch is reasonable where
MAN is sexually assaulting a GIRL.

And the police can tell it was reasonable force at a glance and stood round shaking the OP’s son’s hand ……yeah, right.

PansyPotter84 · 28/08/2025 18:07

CurlewKate · 28/08/2025 17:58

And the police can tell it was reasonable force at a glance and stood round shaking the OP’s son’s hand ……yeah, right.

Well I wasn’t there, but if that’s what all of the witnesses said happened then…

CurlewKate · 28/08/2025 18:30

PansyPotter84 · 28/08/2025 18:07

Well I wasn’t there, but if that’s what all of the witnesses said happened then…

Does it really sound believable to you?

Mustbethat · 28/08/2025 20:31

H0210zero · 28/08/2025 17:55

Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Her daughter was simply not touched because my son put himself between this drunk and the girls.

So did the police question him at all? Do any sort of investigation?

are you telling us your son seriously assaulted a man, putting him in hospital and the police did nothing but take his word as to what happened and congratulated him?

GlitchStitch · 28/08/2025 21:53

Kevinspicey · 28/08/2025 08:55

The antithesis of being bigger than the average man but also being mistaken for a teenage girl 😆

Schrödinger's hero.

Petrolitis · 28/08/2025 22:13

GlitchStitch · 28/08/2025 21:53

Schrödinger's hero.

Possibly the best post I've ever seen on mumsnet.