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I've just seen the most depressing thing

512 replies

Havesomecommonsense · 26/08/2025 10:48

In a coffee shop, in comes a Dad and his daughter (roughly 3 years old)
He made a comment to the daughter about this being a weekly visit before he dropped her back to the mum
He then sat her on his lap, gave her a phone and she watched instagram videos and he watched his own phone holding it over her head..
He gave her some food, which she kept choking on intermittently. He barely said 2 words to her
Yes I'm judging, but fgs do better

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Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:33

Havesomecommonsense · 26/08/2025 18:00

It is not performance parenting to actually like your child and talk to them..
Sitting for 25 mins with no eye contact and both staring at a phone when one is 3 years old is not OK. No matter how people try to spin it here.
I don't understand why people think in extremes on here. Sit in silence or be over the tol performance parenting. What happened to NORMAL behaviour like talking to your child, sharing a joke , chatting about the day, pointing out stuff, talking about future plans for the day.

This is absolute made up nonsense- how can you know that over the 25 mins there was no eye contact but at the same time you were able to see exactly what the child was looking at on the phone? Where were you sitting? In front, to the side, behind? How can you spend the whole time invested in what these two were doing anyway! Were you just staring at them the whole time!

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 18:34

SixtySomething · 27/08/2025 18:27

What nonsense.

and this is how we have MIL from hell threads,

and how to go non-contact with my mother threads 😂

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:40

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 18:33

until you tell us if you have kids yourself, and how old they are, anything you say is completely meaningless

Nope . Not how this works. You are not the thread police

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GreenFlag · 27/08/2025 18:42

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 27/08/2025 18:21

This isn’t a ‘present’ moment with his daughter though. It sounds like he just ignored her for the whole time.

Maybe he wants to enjoy a passive moment like the rest of us get to have with our children.

Some of my most cherished memories are those little moments.

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:42

Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:33

This is absolute made up nonsense- how can you know that over the 25 mins there was no eye contact but at the same time you were able to see exactly what the child was looking at on the phone? Where were you sitting? In front, to the side, behind? How can you spend the whole time invested in what these two were doing anyway! Were you just staring at them the whole time!

Not made up. You can keep troll hunting. Happy for MN to investigate if reported. All true. I was sitting next to them. On a bench seat. Fairly close quarters.

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DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 18:43

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:40

Nope . Not how this works. You are not the thread police

It is how it works, I am not banning you from talking, just pointing out that your opinion is completely irrelevant because you don't know what you are talking about.

Anyone without children is a perfect parent, it's easy 😂

Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:45

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:42

Not made up. You can keep troll hunting. Happy for MN to investigate if reported. All true. I was sitting next to them. On a bench seat. Fairly close quarters.

And you think its acceptable to be sat close to a stranger at a coffee shop and watch them the whole time?

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:46

Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:45

And you think its acceptable to be sat close to a stranger at a coffee shop and watch them the whole time?

Yes it's my hobby

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OonaStubbs · 27/08/2025 18:47

IMO smart phones should be banned. They have had a very negative effect on society.

Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:47

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:46

Yes it's my hobby

I think its obvious you also need a reminder about the basics of acceptable human interaction then 🙄

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:51

Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:47

I think its obvious you also need a reminder about the basics of acceptable human interaction then 🙄

You know I was joking about it being my hobby right?

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Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:51

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 18:43

It is how it works, I am not banning you from talking, just pointing out that your opinion is completely irrelevant because you don't know what you are talking about.

Anyone without children is a perfect parent, it's easy 😂

And you've decided I don't have children

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Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:52

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:51

You know I was joking about it being my hobby right?

Yes hence my 🙄

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:55

Ooh sorry missed the passive aggressive eye roll

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Anchorage56 · 27/08/2025 18:59

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DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:01

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 18:51

And you've decided I don't have children

I have asked you a question and you refused to answer.

Now you can make up anything, but from your posts on here, you appear like an old busy body who doesn't have a clue what they talk about and doesn't understand the world has moved on.

Again, not accusing you of anything, but that's how your posts on this thread read.

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 19:04

You can keep piling on (and have reported) but I have told the truth.
Also, have reported the personal attacks

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Oldwmn · 27/08/2025 19:05

ThunderousSkies · 26/08/2025 11:54

Maybe let her parent her own way?

Even badly?

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:05

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 19:04

You can keep piling on (and have reported) but I have told the truth.
Also, have reported the personal attacks

you are the one attacking parents who made different choices

and you refuse to tell us how old your own children are..

interesting isn't it?

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 19:08

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:05

you are the one attacking parents who made different choices

and you refuse to tell us how old your own children are..

interesting isn't it?

Because I won't answer your hectoring questions about my family I must be lying?

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DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:09

What happened to NORMAL behaviour like talking to your child, sharing a joke , chatting about the day, pointing out stuff, talking about future plans for the day.

Have you got children, and how old are they?

No.

Ok then, great parenting advice then 😂

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 19:10

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:09

What happened to NORMAL behaviour like talking to your child, sharing a joke , chatting about the day, pointing out stuff, talking about future plans for the day.

Have you got children, and how old are they?

No.

Ok then, great parenting advice then 😂

Why have you decided I haven't got children

Your posts are getting weirder and weirder

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DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:11

Havesomecommonsense · 27/08/2025 19:10

Why have you decided I haven't got children

Your posts are getting weirder and weirder

Why do you refuse to answer? The age and number of your own children IS relevant on a discussion about parenting...

Beansmom2983 · 27/08/2025 19:14

Wow. You can’t have been having much of a good time yourself if you had time to watch this man with his child, and then make your own story up about him, and THEN think about it so much you came and posted it on here. Mind your business. Do better.

EmmaOvary · 27/08/2025 19:15

YellowHatt · 26/08/2025 12:58

My previous comment also goes to @Blondiebeachbabe. A forward facing pram once a day for nap time doesn’t mean a forward facing pram for every outing.

How many prams are we supposed to have?