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Feeling uncomfortable about DP’s comments to his son

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DeepCy · 25/08/2025 17:47

I don't even know where to start with this Tbh. I've been with my partner for over a year basically a year and a half, he's a widower and has been for 4 years, for the purpose of this thread ill be saying stepson etc to make it easier to follow.

He has 3 kids. DSD21, DSS17 and DSS11, we've taken things slowly but I stay over, I was the first person he's dated since his wife passed and he was very worried about how his DC would feel but we all get along well. I don't see much of DSS17 as he sleeps in the garage conversion and DSD21 lives in a flat nearby with friends but his youngest gets along with me his words were as long as someone plays Mario with him he's happy. DP’s mum lives with him and I get along with her too. I don't have kids myself

DSS11 is really into football and is very extroverted the same as DP. DSS17 however is shy and sensitive type. He keeps himself to himself and doesn't talk about his feelings. He is into football but he's into music a lot more, he plays guitar and writes his own songs which he hid from everyone for a long time.

The problem is how DP speaks to him, his gf broke up with him a few weeks back and he was understandably heartbroken as most 17yos would be; but DP basically told him to get over it by sleeping with someone else, his exact words were “Best way to get over a girl is to get under another” i thought he was joking but he doubled down when DSS17 wasn't interested and just wanted to write his music. He told him girls didn't want a nice guy writing songs and told him to toughen up and “treat em mean to keep em keen”, I pulled him up on it and he just laughed and said it was just banter and he was trying to help his son become a man.

Since then he's been making comments like “stop being a soft lad girls don't want that” “you'll end up friend zoned if you keep acting like this” “you're too sensitive mate you need to man up” “girls like a bit of a bad boy you're too polite”

He had a gig last night which was his first gig, it was at a small bar and he was so nervous it was really out his comfort zone. It went well and he did amazing but in the car on the way home he just said “great show mate but writing songs won't get you laid” I sat there gobsmacked and DSS went quiet and went straight to his room when we got home.

He is so different to DSS10 who is laddish and plays football which DP encourages but with DSS17 it's like he thinks he needs to toughen him up. He does an apprenticeship at a garage as a mechanic and he is very interested but he's good at music too, he's such a sweet lad and very creative. I've tried saying to DP it's not funny and it's out if order but he shrugs and says “I don't want him to get walked all over” and “I'm just trying to give him life advice” but it's not advice it's sexist and nasty and DSS doesn't need it

What makes it worse is DSD has started dating someone recently and DP is very protective, told her to be careful because men only want one thing, asked him 101 questions, he goes on about how she should never met a man treat her badly, she's worth more than that and he'd never let her be with a man who disrespects her but he's telling his son to do exactly that

To make matters worse I also found out I was pregnant the other day, completely unplanned and I haven't yet told him yet but I'm terrified of what this means if this is how he sees relationships

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Zanatdy · 25/08/2025 17:56

He’s an idiot. Plenty of successful men who got rich writing songs about break ups. His son sounds like a much better person than his father that’s for sure. Obviously not for me to be telling you what to do about the pregnancy but i’d be thinking twice about my relationship with this guy if this is the type of person he is.

Daleksatemyshed · 25/08/2025 17:58

That's really bad timing Op, just as you see that he's a very sexist parent you find out you're pregnant. Don't tell him anything just yet, think this all through before you come to any decisions. I'm sorry Op but he's not the DF I'd want for any DC of mine, especially if it's a boy

InterestedDad37 · 25/08/2025 18:03

Saying something like that once might (just) be explained as buffoonery, but he's repeatedly shown you his actual thinking. Do with that what you will, but he's an idiot 👍

yeesh · 25/08/2025 18:07

He sounds utterly vile. Imagine how he would be if he had a gay child. His poor son having to listen to that shite.

Oscarwinningtears · 25/08/2025 18:18

His comments say a lot about how he thinks about women OP, sorry but I would be reconsidering whether this was a man I even wanted to be in a relationship with, let alone have a baby with tbh. You still have options thankfully, his poor DS is stuck with him.

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 25/08/2025 18:22

I’d have a word with DSS first and put him straight that his dad’s obnoxious attitude to women is definitely not a recipe for success and is in fact going to have the opposite effect, then LTB.

Petrolitis · 25/08/2025 18:29

Do you really want a baby with this sexist cunt?

Women are a commodity to him.

Fuck them to increase your status if you consider them low value. Control them if you consider them high value.

Those girls he's telling your DSS to go out and fuck to make him a man are people too just like his daughter.

Maybe next time he is 'protecting' his daughter (and by that I'm mean enforcing the patriarchal view that her value lies in the purity of her body) remind him that's she's doing an admirable public service opening her legs as frequently as possible helping boys become men.

Or just leave him.

PullTheBricksDown · 25/08/2025 18:33

I don't know how you feel about having children yourself but this guy doesn't seem like a good bet as a dad. Plus it's hard on his older kids and that'll make it hard on you too and your baby. You can do better. How old are you?

I'd have a quiet word with his 17 yo and tell him how many good qualities he has that girls will admire - musicians and songwriters ARE appreciated. And then say you'll be parting ways with his dad 🤞 but to keep in touch as you'll be glad to help if he needs it.

DeepCy · 25/08/2025 18:38

I don't know what I want to do about the pregnancy, the only reason I haven't told him yet is because I didn't want his sons gig to be overshadowed by this unplanned pregnancy. I've never thought I could have an abortion

DSS is the quietest out of his siblings, and I do feel sorry for him. DP had been drinking when he made yesterdays comment but the other comments he's made he's been completely sober. He's got a small social media following from posting himself online playing the guitar and I think he could make a career out if it if that's what he wanted but I feel like he never would because of DP, as while he is into fixing old cars and mechanics he might feel forced into it because he doesn't thing the former is an option? Also atm he's working on a motorbike which he's going to then ride when he gets his license and ironically DP hasn't said anything about that to try and put him off or anything (I think i’d be more uncomfortable over my child riding a motorbike than writing songs due to the dangers etc but that's a different point as it's not my place to say anything)

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5128gap · 25/08/2025 18:46

He is treating his DC in line with his own attitudes and values. There is nothing you can do to prevent any harm this is doing to them, its out of your control. So you need to focus on what is in your control, your life and that of the baby if you go ahead. You need to think whether you want to live with a man with this outlook and raise a child with him. Because while there's a slim possibility you might get him to moderate his behaviour, inside he will still be thinking the same way.

Tay596 · 25/08/2025 18:51

Make some comments about how that's not what you'd want and how he doesn't seem to have a clue about women in front of his DS. Say 'I'd love a man to write me a song'. Better still let his DS know you're ending the relationship because you don't agree with all the nonsense he's spouted and that you think he's a wonderful kid.
What a shame the poor kid has got such a twat for a father.

DeepCy · 25/08/2025 19:06

I'm in my 30s, I do want children and we have talked about it, he said he'd “maybe” like another child but this pregnancy was unplanned. His youngest is starting secondary school in a few weeks so he's definitely past the baby stage.

DO himself is a secondary school teacher too so you'd think he wouldn't have these views/be so open about them? I have said that's not what women want but he said 17year old girls do etc, he said if he keeps being “nice” he'll be confused as the gay best friend Hmm

I just feel so sad for DSS, it was a big thing him singing in front of a bar full of people as like I said he's very shy usually and DP didn't really praise him he just turned it into something else about sex

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DoYouReally · 25/08/2025 19:25

Most people wouldn't even want him teaching their kids, let alone fathering them.

You seem far too intelligent & kind to be even giving this man a chance.

SummerFrog25 · 25/08/2025 19:36

DoYouReally · 25/08/2025 19:25

Most people wouldn't even want him teaching their kids, let alone fathering them.

You seem far too intelligent & kind to be even giving this man a chance.

I agree.

talk to 'DSS' tell him his Dad is wrong, he's perfect as he is & won't attract the right kind of girl, pretending to be something he's not. He doesn't need to 'treat em mean' or toughen up

then ditch the twat!!

then decide what to do about the pregnancy. Sensibly you'd have a termination & not subject another child to his 'parenting! Or tie yourself to this bellend for at least the next 20 years! You have time to meet someone else to have a family with!

DiscoBob · 25/08/2025 22:26

🤣 at the notion that 'writing songs doesn't get you laid'.

I think the opposite is true.

fatphalange · 25/08/2025 23:37

What a weirdo. He’s sex obsessed but also obsessed with his son’s sex life…bizarre. Have you not shut him down with ‘that’s not relevant’, ‘what a thing to say- what makes you think that?’, he was playing his songs, not trying to get laid’ comments? I’d be challenging him every single time, for his son’s sake and also to hopefully open his own eyes about what a weirdo he’s being with all these sex quips. What is wrong with him :/

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2025 23:41

That is awful. He resents DS2 for not being the child he wanted.
Sensitive children need a soft tongue.

SaratogaFilly · 26/08/2025 00:18

DoYouReally · 25/08/2025 19:25

Most people wouldn't even want him teaching their kids, let alone fathering them.

You seem far too intelligent & kind to be even giving this man a chance.

This!

SapphOhNo · 26/08/2025 00:35

So you're in a relationship with a knuckle dragging neanderthal...

Dontlletmedownbruce · 26/08/2025 00:35

Please talk to the kid and tell him how you admire his work and how impressive he is etc. Whatever happens with DP I think words of reassurance from an adult are needed sometimes. Was it his Mum that died? I wasn't sure. If so then I'd be even more vocal as this kid has only one parent and really needs an alternative perspective.

Rewis · 26/08/2025 00:51

Yes, women famously find musicians repulsive.

What a misogynistic twat. His precious little princess needs to stay away from men cause they are all fuckboys. But telling his son to be one.

Talk to the boy. He shouldn't be doing anything just so he can get girls. He needs to know he should do things that make him happy, for him. He doesn't need to change. And girls love nice boys and musicians and his dad is talking out of his ass.

I would have a sit down with him. Is thia how he really thinks? Does he really think you and his daughter don't deserve respect and needs to be treated "mean"? Did he just go out to fuck other women when his wife died? Does he consider himself the type of guy he is telling his son? Does everything on life revolve around getting girls and getting laid? Dad being obsessed with his sons sex life is just gross. If he tries to say banter, make him understand that this is a real conversation. If he cant have a relationship conversation or he truly holds those values, then you know what you're getting yourself into.

Londonismyjam · 26/08/2025 01:23

OP do you think that he might be concerned that his son is gay? It seems odd that he talks about sex to his son in such a crude and unpleasant way and yet is overprotective of his daughter.
Maybe there’s some homophobia here.
You are in a difficult position but I would talk to the boy to at least tell him that his music is good. And then I would consider binging up your baby on your own.

Bournetilly · 26/08/2025 01:30

He sounds disgusting. I wouldn’t want him teaching my child never mind having a child with him.

I feel sorry for his son, let him know what his dad says is not true.

Ponderingwindow · 26/08/2025 01:34

Do you want a man like that parenting your child? A child that could be sensitive or quiet? A child that could be gay? Do you actually want to subject a child to this kind of parenting?

PolyCat · 26/08/2025 01:37

I wouldn’t want to have sex with this man after hearing him say these things, but maybe that’s just me.