Why do people not like people anymore?

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Exactly that, what’s destroying people getting on together. Supporting each other, being kind, staying in their own lane. Not lying or shit stirring.
Building each other up instead of knocking each other down.
Fixing crowns without telling the world they were crooked.

Why do people not like other people?

My job largely involves dealing with entitled people all day,. I have colleagues who don't do much and won't even help when asked nicely. I have a manager who won't help. I then battle through my commute with selfish speeding drivers who think they own the road. All evening I have to listen to motorbikes and cars with backfiring exhausts speeding around. there is no peace at all. I used to like people when I was younger but not so much now.

I don’t know the answer op There have been two recent threads …men knocking into women purposefully in public and another men saying rude things to women in public. Many posters experienced and then shared what happened to them. I did too becuse that very day while shopping on my lunch in my full uniform I got called a bitch and then a fucking bitch by some guy crowding me at the register. Same on Saturday at a register man with his wife ( both men had a female companion) is crowding me trying to push me along as I place my food at register and pay so he could buy a single pack crisps and a chocolate milk but this time I used my cart behind me to provide space. I’m saying this because even in the simplest interactions of life people are simply rude aggressive and self serving. And it makes me think…jeez I really don’t like people anymore.

How would hating men and the women who love them play into the SELF as you put it though? It makes no sense. And for all this hate women are still being killed more often by their male partners, still being raped and abused again mostly by men… there is still more work for feminism to do to bring justice.

Men also save lives. They protect women and children. They provide for those they love. They fight for those they love.

Misandry is as insidious as misogyny.

@Bunnycute23 pls tell us what you mean, what's the post modern theory of this?

No one says they don’t. So do women.

In what way? And how does it promote ‘SELF’.

Firstly, I don't find people are mean or rude generally. Most people I interact with are friendly and nice.

Secondly, there's a movement towards encouraging women to be more aggressive and rude. I understand it came from a feminist perspective, where women were socially conditioned to be nice whereas men didn't have to be. What I don't get it why the solution to the imbalance is to encourage more women especially younger women to be assholes, instead of encouraging men to be more caring. It seems many women are adopting the competitive and self promoting traits that they resented men for in the first place. I should add most men are not like this but a disproportionate number of powerful and successful men are. This attitude is filtering down to the younger generation who are being constantly encouraged to put themselves first.

I've already stated how. Equality means equality. It doesn't mean preferential treatment, to the exclusion of or oppression of, others.

Where feminism promotes these things, it promotes self not equality.

Trying to justify misandry by pointing out misogyny is promoting equal abuse.

If this is not the intention of feminism, then call it out whenever you see it with a balanced view of men and not the extremist view that condemns all men in favour of women. Otherwise, one espouses and is complicit in hypocrisy, at best, or misandry.

Why can't people just live, laugh and love anymore?

There still is not equality. I agree with that. However I do not think women are oppressing men.

I think you are making straw men arguments. No one is justifying misandry merely asking about how you think it manifests. Are men being killed weekly by women? Note, that asking this does not mean I’m justifying abusing men. There is an interesting quote that says something along the lines of that when men hate women they kill them, when women hate men they avoid them. One has severe consequences for one sex and the other does not.

I don’t think for a balanced view we have to constantly say “not all men”. We should be able to talk about issues primarily affecting women without saying that each time. There are good men, we know that.

We can agree to disagree. It's been good having this discussion with you. Gonna spend some time in the sun. Hope OP can see we're not all committed to disliking each other. Have a good Bank Holiday Monday x

Possibly because some other people are impolite, loud, no shame, etc, etc, etc. It’s hard work dealing with people who in my opinion have been “dragged up in the gutter”.

I honestly think politics has a lot to do with it. People get far too wrapped up in politics and casually dismiss large swathes of the population.

I think things are worse than they've ever been in my lifetime, and I honestly can't see it getting better. Opinions are bigger and there are more ways to share them, everyone is protecting themselves and assuming the worst in others.

Social media/the internet is such a double edged sword. On one hand, you can find like-minded souls that you'd never have met even thirty years ago, but on the other hand, you're also aware of all the millions and millions of people whose opinions scare, repulse or baffle you, and if you engage, they're able to tell you exactly how they feel about you.

Sixty years ago, you'd surround yourself either with family, with whom you're sort of obliged to get on; your small circle of friends whom you've probably known since primary school and forgive a lot; and your colleagues and your neighbours. Everyone's just as irritated with each other as they are now, but it's kept in check by a residual sense of 'manners' clinging on from their parents' pre-war upbringing, and no one has a mobile phone to listen to without headphones on the train.

Weirdly, the anxiety about judgement is very similar, but back then it was God and your next door neighbour doing the judging. Whereas now, it's arguably everyone.

I have recently read a biography of Agatha Christie. Just after the war she is describing the mood of the country and a lot of it chimed with the way people claim to feel now. Unsurprisingly she struggled to cope with the loss of gentility that existed when she was a young woman.

I am currently reading a Rebus novel from the mid 80's. The description of people and their behaviour is remarkably similar to today only the noise disrupting the calm on public transport is from Sony Walkmans turned up loud enough to disturb. They didn't have the ability to play their music/TikTok clips then but if they had have done, they probably would have.

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Mind your own business as in not noticing when people are being abused or ill-treated or dragged off to concentration camps? You would have thrived in Nazi Germany!!

I suggest you publish this as a self-help tome featured by bookshop tills. You could call it NEVER BRING A KNOB WITH YOU, BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ONE THERE ALREADY, WAITING.

I think avoiding people actually makes it easier to avoid the nasties. That and avoiding social media.

You can disengage to a greater degree if you need to.

Overpopulation is known to bring trouble all by itself, so the comment about it being plain old busier is spot on.

This attitude is filtering down to the younger generation who are being constantly encouraged to put themselves first.

Do they have a choice given the life economics they are faced with? The economics driven by an age group who led by example in ‘putting themselves first’ and buying up the housing stock to force younger generations to rent their entire lives? Examples from the top do trickle down.

We are economically screwed, environmentally screwed and still our political class claim there is no solution beyond making the rich richer and having no values beyond exploiting people to the max for money (incidentally I am no Christian, being a history fan, but I know the need for shared values based on something other than money).

The older I get, the more attractive moving to the Outer Hebrides gets.

Have you worked with the public? They are rude and entitled. It really does put you off people.

In my job I meet some of the worst human beings possible - think murderers, rapists, domestic abusers, the lot. I have done this job for over 20 years. I think that despite the faults and bad things done by individual people or groups of people the human race is absolutely fascinating. My starting point with everybody - work, social life, acquaintances, people serving me in shops, everybody is to be friendly and open, to assume that everyone has something good about them somewhere and to acknowledge a human connection.

I find that to approach interactions with people in a positive way is good for my mental wellbeing and keeps me grounded and feeling good. I find people who assume the worst tend to bring out the worst and be negative, stressed and anxious people.

Do most people not encounter people getting on well together in their real lives? In social groups, work or the like?

I'm part of several groups who do things for the environment and our town. I'm also in a hobby group, a sports team and do voluntary work. The vast majority of people are really easy to get on with, motivated, friendly and supportive. Stuff gets done, we have a good time and rarely is there a falling out. Nobody seems keep to make trouble or knock anyone else down. I get on with my neighbours, the people at my slimming club are genuinely supportive and kind because they just are, not because they read it on a tshirt.

Sid Vicious said, "I've met the man in the street and he's a cunt". He might be right some times but there is an awful lot of good stuff going on if you look.