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Why do people not like people anymore?

103 replies

fthisfthatfeverything · 25/08/2025 12:03

Exactly that, what’s destroying people getting on together. Supporting each other, being kind, staying in their own lane. Not lying or shit stirring.
Building each other up instead of knocking each other down.
Fixing crowns without telling the world they were crooked.

Why do people not like other people?

OP posts:
Letitgoooletitgooo · 25/08/2025 12:31

Humans have always been competitive, territorial, violent, aggressive, jealous, war mongering. It’s in our nature. It’s just primate behaviour. The more over-populated the world becomes and the more scarce resources become, the more our instinctive survival behaviours will play out, on a grand, organised scale, legitimised by those with power.

Ihateboris · 25/08/2025 12:32

Twas ever thus

OneNewLeader · 25/08/2025 12:33

I don’t remember a time (I’m fairly old) when people were universally nice to each other. History would also support my own experience.

That said, I’ve been supported and surrounded by some of the best people. I have their back, they have mine. None of us wear crowns.

Letitgoooletitgooo · 25/08/2025 12:35

GreenFlag · 25/08/2025 12:21

Because everyone is their own special princess and the existence of others is triggering to them.

This is probably the logical conclusion of our survival instinct at its most base level…humans are inherently selfish

AffIt · 25/08/2025 12:35

I like quite a few people on an individual basis, but I'm not mad on them as a class.

As per the Terry Pratchett quote, "The intelligence of that creature known as a crowd is the square root of the number of people in it."

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 25/08/2025 12:35

Decline of community spaces and community life, decline of shared values, ongoing impact of covid.

WonderfulUsername · 25/08/2025 12:36

It's also helpful to remember that sometimes others see us completely differently to how we see ourselves.

I've known people in the past who go off on one about 'fixing crooked crowns' and 'building others up and being really nice' etc.

To hear them speak you'd think they were love and kindness personified.

And yet I saw them for what they really were - shit stirring gossips when it suited them, and then all wide-eyed and innocent when called out.

Therefore I've learned to take people as I find them, and not for who they tell me they are.

goldtrap · 25/08/2025 12:37

spoonbillstretford · 25/08/2025 12:08

"Hell is other people " Jean-Paul Sartre, 1944.

"People are people, so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully?"

Depeche Mode, 1984

JustPassingThruHere · 25/08/2025 12:38

Because politeness and manners are lauded as 'old fashioned,' nuclear families are discouraged and mocked, Christianity that upheld these things is openly mocked and it's trendy to point out instances of abuse in the church to justify generalised mockery and atheism which celebrates SELF SELF SELF SELF. Feminism promotes SELF. We are taught SELF esteem SELF everything so we collapse polite society, rules, manners, goodwill. SELFIES are celebrated. See how this works?

ComfortFoodCafe · 25/08/2025 12:40

It puts me off when people just talk about themselves, to many people are only interested in themselves.

BallerinaRadio · 25/08/2025 12:40

fthisfthatfeverything · 25/08/2025 12:17

Maybe it’s just more noticeable now with social media.

I believe social media is the cause of it.

People have found they can be dicks on social media with no consequences and have now brought this into real life. People just aren't bothered about being called out on their shit behaviour anymore.

Ihateboris · 25/08/2025 12:41

I think we are just more aware of it now, due to social media

spoonbillstretford · 25/08/2025 12:42

I have to say I'm fairly non-misanthropic and think most people are pretty ok really. Even when people can seem very different culturally we all have common ground.

BlueJuniper94 · 25/08/2025 12:44

PollyBell · 25/08/2025 12:07

Anymore? Please explain when this ever happened in real life

And @spillingwater

It did, as you go back through time when people were economically dependent on one another and when people lived in tighter communities where people were often related - essentially a tribe. Social solidarity and cohesion were much higher. This is sociology 101. Now we exist as isolated individuals who can do what we like, the market fulfills most of the functions that our families and communities once did. Robert Putnams Bowling Alone might interest you - if you are actually interested in this subject. But I suspect you're not really.

BlueJuniper94 · 25/08/2025 12:46

JustPassingThruHere · 25/08/2025 12:38

Because politeness and manners are lauded as 'old fashioned,' nuclear families are discouraged and mocked, Christianity that upheld these things is openly mocked and it's trendy to point out instances of abuse in the church to justify generalised mockery and atheism which celebrates SELF SELF SELF SELF. Feminism promotes SELF. We are taught SELF esteem SELF everything so we collapse polite society, rules, manners, goodwill. SELFIES are celebrated. See how this works?

And this

Bunnycute23 · 25/08/2025 12:46

Well. A lot of it is social media. Like this site. Disinformation, misinformation and clicks basically.

Millytante · 25/08/2025 12:52

fthisfthatfeverything · 25/08/2025 12:16

It means: mind your own business!

It doesn’t mean that, or at least, that may be implicit in its message but isn’t its main thrust. It is telling you that you belong in a certain category or group, and ought not stray from it into a different one. Don't get above your station, in a nutshell.
Typically it might be a cashier who advises his supervisor that customers are always asking for product X, so maybe the shop should stock it….and the supervisor snaps back that the cashier should ‘stay in his lane’ ( = and not be trying to do someone else’s job.)
It’s basically born of territorial insecurity x dog in the mangerism.

OutsideLookingOut · 25/08/2025 12:52

JustPassingThruHere · 25/08/2025 12:38

Because politeness and manners are lauded as 'old fashioned,' nuclear families are discouraged and mocked, Christianity that upheld these things is openly mocked and it's trendy to point out instances of abuse in the church to justify generalised mockery and atheism which celebrates SELF SELF SELF SELF. Feminism promotes SELF. We are taught SELF esteem SELF everything so we collapse polite society, rules, manners, goodwill. SELFIES are celebrated. See how this works?

I don’t think so. The nuclear family is still lauded though I think we see a need for a wider community. In fact the family being too nuclear might be the start of a break in community.

You mean the same Christianity that some people used to justify slavery and the oppression of women? The same systems that told everyone to accept their place without question? There was never a utopia.

Dodeedoo · 25/08/2025 12:52

People are cunts

Bunnycute23 · 25/08/2025 12:55

Dodeedoo · 25/08/2025 12:52

People are cunts

That too. But it's also set out in postmodern theory if anyone can be asked to get offline and read Baudrillard or something.

Wiltedgeranium · 25/08/2025 12:56

fthisfthatfeverything · 25/08/2025 12:15

No
you’re right. but people are growing cold!
They are nasty and go out of their way to avoid other people.
Read some of the threads on here, read some of the replies below yours.
I’ve come across some real life nasties also, luckily not my friend or family!

But isn't that because people who spend too much time on line talking to strangers are more likely to be misanthropic/ scared of human interaction? Those who want to be involved with people or doing nice things are too busy out in real life... doing them.

JustPassingThruHere · 25/08/2025 12:56

OutsideLookingOut · 25/08/2025 12:52

I don’t think so. The nuclear family is still lauded though I think we see a need for a wider community. In fact the family being too nuclear might be the start of a break in community.

You mean the same Christianity that some people used to justify slavery and the oppression of women? The same systems that told everyone to accept their place without question? There was never a utopia.

Yes, the same Christianity where the small few misuse Christianity to justify sin and the people who love to sin use as a reason to decry all of Christianity.

These things still happen by non Christians but let's keep mocking Christianity, specifically, because it's easy to do instead of actually read the bible and learn about it.

Yes, that same Christianity.

OutsideLookingOut · 25/08/2025 13:00

JustPassingThruHere · 25/08/2025 12:56

Yes, the same Christianity where the small few misuse Christianity to justify sin and the people who love to sin use as a reason to decry all of Christianity.

These things still happen by non Christians but let's keep mocking Christianity, specifically, because it's easy to do instead of actually read the bible and learn about it.

Yes, that same Christianity.

I am not mocking Christianity. I think a great many abuses were done its name just like any other religion. It did not make a uptopia. I notice no rebuff on the issues I listed.

TheeNotoriousPIG · 25/08/2025 13:00

It's because other people are hard work, OP! (Lighthearted- some people are lovely, but I am an introvert and need lots of recharging time).

I find that, at least in the UK, we're too quick to criticise and never fast enough to praise. There's a lot of gossiping and back-stabbing, and self-interest is the most important, and we just drag each other down so that we all feel as bad as each other.

This is why I enjoy having a job where I don't see many people on a daily basis...

seesawwren · 25/08/2025 13:01

I agree with the comment above about the current conditions we are living in. Many people can’t afford their lives any more despite working and earning full time wages. Prices are sky high, it’s a daily slog to get by and the news is constant warnings about war, climate change and crime. We are all depressed and sad, and when we go out in public it shows. It is making many people short tempered, selfish and angry.