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ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 18:30

We’ve bought a house and moved in 5 months ago , few months before we moved in a house next door went on the market and was sold to a property developer. Turns out that the area we moved to is being saturated with HMO housing which we didn’t know about before. So now house next door is being extended and turned into one of those . I feel literally sick to my stomach , can’t function, crying most of the time and don’t know what to do , we are unable to oppose this as this council has not implemented an article 4 which gives you a right to do so.
Talking about it makes me feel sick as I’ve imagined this as our home at least for the next 10 years or more , was any of you in similar situation?

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Crazycatladywithnocats · 23/08/2025 19:20

ShesTheAlbatross · 23/08/2025 19:04

I’ve lived in two HMOs.

One had 9 people, at one point I was the only woman. A couple of the men (who were a couple) had lived in the house for a few years. We were very quiet. You’re right, we didn’t get to know the neighbours. But we really didn’t disturb them either.

The second one I was in was 4 women while I was there. We had more parties because we socialised as a group (which didn’t happen at all in the larger house) but we were very reasonable and we didn’t disturb the neighbours there either.

If someone moved out, we were always just as keen for the new person to be quiet and reasonable as any neighbour would be.

Everyone in both these houses were young professionals saving up to buy, or waiting to earn enough to rent somewhere of their own. We weren’t actively “neighbourly”, but we weren’t bad neighbours either.

The examples you’ve outlined make you sound like a good neighbour. Let’s hope the OP has the same good fortune with the tenants when they take up the latest HMO that she’s referred to.

IThinkPink · 23/08/2025 19:22

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:18

@Allisnotlost1 thank you for your comment, not this is not a wind up . Imagine living next door to 6 or 7 males , could be ex convicts or drug addicts all under one roof .

Imagine being so judgey!

men have got to live somewhere….where would you prefer ‘ex convicts’ to live? They are re starting their lives and deserve that chance

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:23

@dizzydizzydizzy thank you for your reassuring comment , I’m not judging anyone I’ve lived myself in different areas all over London

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Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:24

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:18

@Allisnotlost1 thank you for your comment, not this is not a wind up . Imagine living next door to 6 or 7 males , could be ex convicts or drug addicts all under one roof .

I’m not scared of people who’ve had different lives and experiences to me, and I don’t check the criminal record/substance use of any of my neighbours now, so I’d be good.

TheFormidableMrsC · 23/08/2025 19:24

I think you’re being ridiculously dramatic with the “can’t function and crying all the time”. The HMO’s where I live are largely filled with medical staff from our local hospital or young professionals. People have to live somewhere.

KawasakiBabe · 23/08/2025 19:25

DH and I don’t currently live together, long story. He is in a hmo, in the time he’s been there, there’s been a doctor, a solicitor, a ceo, a project manager, a man who does telesales from home who is the nosiest because he slams the bathroom door after midnight shocker!!

Sparklybutold · 23/08/2025 19:25

@ThisOliveBiscuiti think people are being purposefully obtuse with why you would be fearful. There is an issue with massive immigration, with many being illegal, and the government has recently put a shout out to try and find thousands of houses for them. With the majority of these immigrants being young men from countries with different values - I wouldn't like it either.

In a previous house, my neighbours lived in a HMO - Early one morning they were raided. The man and his partner who lived there went down for modern day slavery. Those who lived there were a nuisance - from buying animals from the local pet shop to slaughter and eat, pissing in the garden, oggling our au pair, overflowing bins, the list goes on.

I get that youre not talking about young professionals, students, etc, but about groups of men from different countries who are a threat to women and girls.

Honestly, the posters trying to trap you, I can guarantee would not want these type of men living next door to them. You have every right to feel sad and worried. If other neighbours feel the same (I bet most do), could you write a joint letter to council? If there's already a problem on your street, maybe the press?

Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:26

Crazycatladywithnocats · 23/08/2025 19:20

The examples you’ve outlined make you sound like a good neighbour. Let’s hope the OP has the same good fortune with the tenants when they take up the latest HMO that she’s referred to.

And let’s hope the HMO tenants have the same. It would probably be quite unsettling to live next door to a woman who was always crying and, by her own admission, ‘couldn’t function.

ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:29

Sparklybutold · 23/08/2025 19:25

@ThisOliveBiscuiti think people are being purposefully obtuse with why you would be fearful. There is an issue with massive immigration, with many being illegal, and the government has recently put a shout out to try and find thousands of houses for them. With the majority of these immigrants being young men from countries with different values - I wouldn't like it either.

In a previous house, my neighbours lived in a HMO - Early one morning they were raided. The man and his partner who lived there went down for modern day slavery. Those who lived there were a nuisance - from buying animals from the local pet shop to slaughter and eat, pissing in the garden, oggling our au pair, overflowing bins, the list goes on.

I get that youre not talking about young professionals, students, etc, but about groups of men from different countries who are a threat to women and girls.

Honestly, the posters trying to trap you, I can guarantee would not want these type of men living next door to them. You have every right to feel sad and worried. If other neighbours feel the same (I bet most do), could you write a joint letter to council? If there's already a problem on your street, maybe the press?

And here we go.
Perhaps the OP should have said she suspected them of being asylum seekers in the first place. It was seemingly where this was going and the predictable responses will be on their way to add to your post.

myrtleWilson · 23/08/2025 19:29

arf at the govt putting 'a shout out'

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:30

@ShesTheAlbatross sorry meant another house few doors down

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Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:30

Sparklybutold · 23/08/2025 19:25

@ThisOliveBiscuiti think people are being purposefully obtuse with why you would be fearful. There is an issue with massive immigration, with many being illegal, and the government has recently put a shout out to try and find thousands of houses for them. With the majority of these immigrants being young men from countries with different values - I wouldn't like it either.

In a previous house, my neighbours lived in a HMO - Early one morning they were raided. The man and his partner who lived there went down for modern day slavery. Those who lived there were a nuisance - from buying animals from the local pet shop to slaughter and eat, pissing in the garden, oggling our au pair, overflowing bins, the list goes on.

I get that youre not talking about young professionals, students, etc, but about groups of men from different countries who are a threat to women and girls.

Honestly, the posters trying to trap you, I can guarantee would not want these type of men living next door to them. You have every right to feel sad and worried. If other neighbours feel the same (I bet most do), could you write a joint letter to council? If there's already a problem on your street, maybe the press?

Why assume that the tenants will be problematic? Why assume the tenants will be a threat to women and girls? It doesn’t sound like your neighbours were a threat to women and girls. All men are a threat to women and girls, the most dangerous man to any woman is the one she lives with.

sesquipedalian · 23/08/2025 19:31

OP, when I bought my house, it was opposite a doctor’s surgery, which was closed some years later (thanks for nothing, Tony Blair) and turned into a halfway house. I was really worried about this, but it’s been fine - some “characters” at the bus stop occasionally, and one incident when we had scaffolding up, but otherwise absolutely nothing. So don’t worry, OP - your concerns will in all likelihood never be realised.

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:33

@Sparklybutold thank you for understanding, yes I’m also worried they could be asylum seekers , unfortunately without the article 4 we are powerless, we signed petition for it to be implemented

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ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:35

@sesquipedalian thank you for your reassuring comment

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ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:37

@Allisnotlost1 thank you for your unhelpful in any way comments

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murasaki · 23/08/2025 19:37

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:33

@Sparklybutold thank you for understanding, yes I’m also worried they could be asylum seekers , unfortunately without the article 4 we are powerless, we signed petition for it to be implemented

Why do asylum seekers worry you?

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 23/08/2025 19:38

doubleshift · 23/08/2025 18:32

Why does it matter? My daughter rents a room in an HMO and it’s lovely and they are all young professionals who can’t afford to buy or rent alone.

Whereas the ones nearest us are usually druggies and alcoholics.

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:41

@Crazycatladywithnocats 🙏

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ShesTheAlbatross · 23/08/2025 19:41

My ideal neighbours next door - a quiet friendly couple in their 60s who’ve lived there years and are always willing to take out bins or feed pets while people are away - took in two Afghan asylum seekers. Who by the way were no problem at all.
There is absolutely no point worrying about this. Any house with any neighbours could become something different to when you moved in.

Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:41

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:37

@Allisnotlost1 thank you for your unhelpful in any way comments

And thank you for quickly revealing your racism rather than keeping us all in suspense.

myrtleWilson · 23/08/2025 19:41

Your children will be going back to school soon and into a new year, with a new teacher presumably - are you not worried about how your near constant crying is impacting on them? Teachers will probably be keen to hear about how their pupils enjoyed the summer holidays and your children may very well describe their summer as 'mommy crying all the time and feeling very sad'.

ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:43

Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:41

And thank you for quickly revealing your racism rather than keeping us all in suspense.

She could have said what she was really concerned about at the beginning. It took her long enough.

Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:45

ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:43

She could have said what she was really concerned about at the beginning. It took her long enough.

True, at least she didn’t drag it out over 14 pages. I say she, but I’m picturing a sweaty Daily Express hack anxiously wondering if his typing sounds like a woman. ‘Women, they cry all the time don’t they? Yeah, I’ll put that.’

Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:46

ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:43

She could have said what she was really concerned about at the beginning. It took her long enough.

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