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HMO

135 replies

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 18:30

We’ve bought a house and moved in 5 months ago , few months before we moved in a house next door went on the market and was sold to a property developer. Turns out that the area we moved to is being saturated with HMO housing which we didn’t know about before. So now house next door is being extended and turned into one of those . I feel literally sick to my stomach , can’t function, crying most of the time and don’t know what to do , we are unable to oppose this as this council has not implemented an article 4 which gives you a right to do so.
Talking about it makes me feel sick as I’ve imagined this as our home at least for the next 10 years or more , was any of you in similar situation?

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xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 23/08/2025 19:01

Shitpeas · 23/08/2025 18:59

Honestly stay off facebook local groups, they're toxic places full of moaners, gossipers, curtain twitchers and racists. Or is that judt mine?!

No mine is the same. Although they helped me find my cat and helped with my heating issue so sometimes it's okay.

FrippEnos · 23/08/2025 19:01

I have lived in several HMOs and next to/near several.
Only two were ever an issue, One was all male, the other all female and it was students. (friends made in the first year of studying and living together)
However, the estate agents and the university took reports of poor behaviour very seriously.

myrtleWilson · 23/08/2025 19:01

Facebook pages are never the bastion of truth, so if this is genuine, I'd ease off on the facebooking

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 19:01

@Bambamhoohoo I might not be using the right terms, I used to work in Birmingham near a mental health hospital and it was notorious for small private companies setting themselves up as supported housing providers and renting rooms out for the enhanced rate, and paying a support worker for a couple of hours a week. They weren't really supported housing in any real sense of the term, more a way of exploiting a loophole.

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:02

@Hibernatingtilspring we don’t know , property developers are sneaky and not being honest , few doors down there’s an hmo they drink and smoke drugs outside , lots of cars parked up , bins overflowing, the men look rough …

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Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 19:02

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 19:01

@Bambamhoohoo I might not be using the right terms, I used to work in Birmingham near a mental health hospital and it was notorious for small private companies setting themselves up as supported housing providers and renting rooms out for the enhanced rate, and paying a support worker for a couple of hours a week. They weren't really supported housing in any real sense of the term, more a way of exploiting a loophole.

That’s not a HMO. Supported housing can still qualify as supported even when it offers low levels of support.

ShesTheAlbatross · 23/08/2025 19:04

Crazycatladywithnocats · 23/08/2025 18:57

I would hate it too and would find it unsettling. My dream house would be in a street with established occupiers who get to know their neighbours. The tenants of an HMO I expect would come and go and not give a fig about the neighbourhood. Sorry if that’s a generalisation.

I’ve lived in two HMOs.

One had 9 people, at one point I was the only woman. A couple of the men (who were a couple) had lived in the house for a few years. We were very quiet. You’re right, we didn’t get to know the neighbours. But we really didn’t disturb them either.

The second one I was in was 4 women while I was there. We had more parties because we socialised as a group (which didn’t happen at all in the larger house) but we were very reasonable and we didn’t disturb the neighbours there either.

If someone moved out, we were always just as keen for the new person to be quiet and reasonable as any neighbour would be.

Everyone in both these houses were young professionals saving up to buy, or waiting to earn enough to rent somewhere of their own. We weren’t actively “neighbourly”, but we weren’t bad neighbours either.

Simonjt · 23/08/2025 19:05

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:02

@Hibernatingtilspring we don’t know , property developers are sneaky and not being honest , few doors down there’s an hmo they drink and smoke drugs outside , lots of cars parked up , bins overflowing, the men look rough …

If you don’t like HMOs, why did you choose to buy a property with one a few doors down?

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 19:07

@ThisOliveBiscuit I know, I was trying to understand why they OP was expecting it to be filled with vulnerable people with support needs rather than 'regular' renters.

Skybluepinky · 23/08/2025 19:07

Have fun curtain twitching, stressing about nothing.

ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:08

Are we going to be told that the tenants are asylum seekers?

Theunamedcat · 23/08/2025 19:10

Dd lives in a HMO they are hard working tenants yes they come and go at all hours but they work odd shift patterns dd works lates chap upstairs is early her neighbour is 9/5 but dd never really hears them so I'm assuming the neighbours dont either

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:10

@ilovesooty I wouldn’t be surprised

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myrtleWilson · 23/08/2025 19:11

@ilovesooty the 'etc' and the '....' certainly seem to be leading us somewhere don't they? First time poster, posting on weekend of well publicised asylum hotel protests and counter protests.

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 19:12

ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:08

Are we going to be told that the tenants are asylum seekers?

That’s where they’ll be when they’re “successfully” driven out of “hotels”

what a win for those protestors

VickyEadieofThigh · 23/08/2025 19:13

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 18:38

@doubleshift i would be more than happy if it was rented to young professionals or students that would be a dream ! Unfortunately this is not the case , hose next door for example 6 men they drink and smoke god knows what outside they generally look really rough

You said earlier it's currently being developed - how are they already living there?

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:13

@Theunamedcat thank you for your comment this is what I need to hear from people, we’re are worried about who is going to live there as people come and go so I think is natural to worry

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ilovesooty · 23/08/2025 19:14

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:10

@ilovesooty I wouldn’t be surprised

Yeah. I bet you wouldn't.

Allisnotlost1 · 23/08/2025 19:15

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 18:30

We’ve bought a house and moved in 5 months ago , few months before we moved in a house next door went on the market and was sold to a property developer. Turns out that the area we moved to is being saturated with HMO housing which we didn’t know about before. So now house next door is being extended and turned into one of those . I feel literally sick to my stomach , can’t function, crying most of the time and don’t know what to do , we are unable to oppose this as this council has not implemented an article 4 which gives you a right to do so.
Talking about it makes me feel sick as I’ve imagined this as our home at least for the next 10 years or more , was any of you in similar situation?

This must be a wind up? Imagine non-stop crying because some people you don’t know are moving in next door. You’ve no idea if this will be a problem, don’t seem to really understand what an HMO is apparently have such little life experience that people who look ‘rough’ are scary to you.

I feel a bit sorry for whoever has to live next door to you, curtain twitching and judging their every move.

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:15

@VickyEadieofThigh there is another house few doors down which is hmo , house next door is being extended just now

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VickyEadieofThigh · 23/08/2025 19:17

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:15

@VickyEadieofThigh there is another house few doors down which is hmo , house next door is being extended just now

Is there, aye?

I'm afraid you shot your credibility with that rookie error of inconsistency.

myrtleWilson · 23/08/2025 19:17

But you specifically mentioned the house next door when referencing the 'rough' looking men in your 2nd post, not the house down the road. Here, I'll quote your post for you

Unfortunately this is not the case , hose next door for example 6 men they drink and smoke god knows what outside they generally look really rough

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 19:18

@Allisnotlost1 thank you for your comment, not this is not a wind up . Imagine living next door to 6 or 7 males , could be ex convicts or drug addicts all under one roof .

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InMyShowgirlEra · 23/08/2025 19:19

So your objection is that they are poor, might be male, and might look "rough"?

You sound like an insufferable snob.

dizzydizzydizzy · 23/08/2025 19:20

ThisOliveBiscuit · 23/08/2025 18:46

@Shitpeas worried about the type of people who would be living there which could be anyone : from ex convicts etc

You can get bad people anywhere. Friend used to live in the Barbican - one of his neighbours was raided my police looking for drugs.

I used to live in a nice expensive semi-rural area. It turned out the house behind us was a cannabis farm. Somebody who I knew in the next road was arrested for drug dealing.

As it happens, I now live in an HMO. I have made some great friends here of all different ages - an older man who is very kind to every one used to be a printer , a young woman who has just started her career as a vet, an older woman who has a brilliant sense of humour and always makes me laugh. We have lots of nurses living here, a paramedic and a few business types and a lovely young media studies teacher. It's very quiet here. Everyone is respectful and from all different walks of life and several different countries.

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