Baby - MIL - XL Bully

[Koala98]

MIL has an XL Bully at her house, AIBU to say baby can never visit while the dog is on the property even if shut in a different room or garden?

Absolutely no way would my baby be in a house with an XL Bully. If you asked the question - trust your gut.

Absolutely not, tbh I don’t think I would go in there as an adult and I love dogs.
We have a soppy small dog who loves people, but I don’t even trust her when we have our little nephews over. She’s absolutely lovely, but slightly anxious temperament, and so I can never be convinced she wouldn’t grump if one of them did something. I just don’t take the risk, either we visit them, or we keep her separated from them. She is an animal after all.

Iv always had big dogs as a child and I know the breeder she came from and I did a lot of research before taking her. I got her neutered as soon as the vet agreed so no risk of pups or anything she’s a family pet. I understand but the breed isn’t for everyone and respect not everyone wants to walk past one so I try walk her at less busy times. Don’t get me wrong if any aggression is shown I’d not hesitate in removing her from my home but I think that stands for any breed. A lot of bully owners or big breed owners get them for the wrong reason.

I realise this is a little heartless, but goodness me she was a candidate for the Darwin awards.

I appreciate that you think that but the unfortunate truth with xl bullies is the first sign of aggression is normally fatal.

Every single dog, regardless of breed, should have boundaries around people, especially kids.

Too many people think that if a dog is an XL bully then it will definitely attack, whilst all other breeds would never attack.

When it comes to a tiny baby then the breed doesn’t actually matter because even Jack Russell’s have killed babies and they’re tiny in comparison.

People should have the same concerns around any breed of dog with their child, as they do an XL bully.

If MIL is not responsible enough to keep the baby safe, then there’s no way I’d be leaving my baby there.

Start listening to your gut. People aren’t always going to like the choices you make as a mother to keep your children safe - but that’s not your problem.

Stop doubting yourself and seeking validation. Ofc you aren’t being unreasonable. Who has one of those dogs after we keep seeing time and time again what they are capable of.

I agree,

But most family dogs, whilst never being left alone with small children and babies, don't need a muzzle. Or to be held on a lead at all times around them

What did your research tell you?

Of course not. You'd be wholly in the wrong if you let your baby go there, don't let anyone make you think otherwise.

We’ve all read enough stories of these dogs escaping rooms they’re shut Into, someone leaving a door open, something making them flip and attack.

I would never take the risk.

Don’t put your baby’s literal life on the line just to be polite.

This.

But your dog probably won’t show signs of aggression, until it does. And then you’re powerless. Do you not know this? It would flip out of nowhere at the slightest thing, maybe even nothing. It could have a medical episode which causes it. You can’t predict if or when it would happen.
And maybe it does stand for any breed, but it stands for the specific breed of dog you own even more. Much more….which is why it’s been banned. Wtf.

Yes any dog can attack but the huge difference with these dogs is that no human would be able to get in the way and stop them.

If a Jack Russell was doing the same you’d be able to grab them and separate the two.

So depressing to see so many XL apologists. 8
I suppose nobody’s called them “nanny dogs” yet al least…

Those dogs are so, so dangerous. I don't understand why anyone has dangerous breeds, except I suppose they have a role as security.

I would never take babies or children to a house that had such a dog. I wouldn't even be comfortable visiting myself, to be honest.

I wouldn't be visiting a house with one, so fair to say my dc wouldn't be either.

Your MIL will just need to visit you without the dog. She chose to have a ridiculous breed of dog for a domestic environment, she deals with the consequences of that.

Presumably so. I know someone who exempted their dog, not an XL because it’s not a breed it’s a set of measurements.
I’m not sure what point you are making as the owner may follow all the rules in her own home but if OP visits that changes everything?

It would depend on the dog’s nature, is it used to babies etc.
As a huge dog lover, it would depend on the dog’s nature for me. My Mil has a bichon and I wouldn’t allow DD around it because it was a bitey bastard. DD is 9 now and dog has chilled a bit.
I had a lovely lab and now have a staffie who both have amazing temperaments.

Never leave a baby or toddler or any child alone with a dog.

It's definitely a case of me (and my baby) or the dog. You will have to insist on MIL coming to you without the dog or - and it's a huge or - if you visit her at her house, the dog must be in the garden and locked out of the house. You cannot take the risk with your precious baby.

Nope, yanbu. I wouldn't be visiting, let alone taking my baby.

Humans created them, they’ll do it again.

Staffords are called nanny dogs.

Not a chance I’d visit myself. And my child of any age would not be stepping foot in that house, or visiting MIL anywhere where the dog will be. (Saying this as a dog owner). Far too many XL bully deaths, a responsible dog owner wouldn’t have one at all. Do not ever let your partner, MIL or anyone tell you you’re overreacting and stick to your guns on this one.

Quite. You’d have to mistrust her judgement in general.

Yanbu. No . No. No.

Fucks sake.