no i am not... men (in fact the male species) why can't they

[readyforbed]

1. put the toilet seat down
2. put stuff in the dishwasher rather than on the counter
3. not leave empty packages in the fridge
4. not leave underwear on the floor
5. not leave damp towels on the floor
6. put their shoes away
7. just in general clean up over themselves

The list goes on, but these are the things that have really irritated me walking around the house for the last 2 mins. and to make it worse my DH doesn't even put the bins out (which everyone, including all his male friends, agree is a man job). Rant over - feel better now, ready to go and tidy the place up, I would leave it but my tolerance factor is much lower than his, and I don't want to deal with the all consuming 'man-clean' and the grump that goes with it when it finally gets too much for him.

Because men are freaks and there brain just doesnt function properly, to much testosterone seems to erode brain cells.

At least thats my opinion!

is it the 50s?
My dh is fantastic at cleaning / tidying, fwiw.

When women are mad or depressed, they eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking there insane

It's not a man thing. WHen you say it is and tidy up you are excusing him. I do some of the things on your list and dh doesnt do some of the things on your list. Putting bins out isn't a mans job.

dh is anal about the dishwasher!

He takes things out and reorganises after I have loaded the blardy thing and set it going

I am like this. Except for the toilet seat. But I am a woman. What can it mean?

I agree about the tidying up after him. I hate it when women do it tutting about their typical man at the same time as picking up his socks.

Are you sure you're a woman?

LOL at TWR - invading another country - that is what DH needs to cheer him up, clearly

My dp does all the things on your list. It's not about gender, it's about being a nice person.

not excusing him, I tell him exactly the same (reasonably often but not enough to sound like a completely stuck record) and do also insist that he does it too, but it's the continuation of the behaviour that gets to me. Maybe I should try something pavlovian to try to change the behaviour - or maybe from these posts it's only my DH...

It's utterly not a "man" thing - mine doesn't do this.

You allow him to behave like this, then play up the martyred little woman thing, I bet.

How any man finds that attractive, I will never know. Maybe it's because they get their grots washed and ironed for them?

I don't understand this obsession with men putting the toilet seat down. They'd be perfectly justified in telling us to leave the seat up.

They are completely incapable of putting a new toilet roll on the toilet roll holder too arent they

I did go through a very childish phase of getting a new roll out and putting it out of reach...but then he just shouted for me to "help" and I had to go in the bathroom when it was all stinky

not a man thing

i think you are either a tidy person, or you aren't

I expect someone will be along soon who will explain how you can train men to follow lists, cry to get their attention etc.

He's a lazy sod, that's all and you both have different tidy thresholds.

No, wilywombat. They arent incapable. Nor are they incapable of using a washing machine.

My H is another one who does all the things on your list. After seeing my mum, grandma & various friends saddled wih lazy, chauvanist, undomesticated men I made it a priority to find one who wasn't bloody useless. I never cean up after him.

There are some very twattish women around who really love their men helpless.

It has a laxative effect on me - it irritates the shit out of me.

It has a laxative effect on me - it irritates the shit out of me.

Brillian!

I am beginning to suspect that IorekByrnison and I are the same person - I so often agree with her. I also do everything on the list except the loo seat, and my towel is usually left on the bed not the floor. So, not a man thing at all.

I expect a man to come along soon and point out that he could equally complain about women always leaving the seat down even if they found it up.

Not a man thing, just what happens when two people with different tidyness tolerance live together.

You have two choices.

1. tidy to your standard and accept that that's what it takes for the house to look that way.
2. tidy to his standard and accept that that's what it takes for you not to feel you do (or have to do) most of the housework.

nice that you have all categorised me as a pinny wearing "martyred little woman". actually am a WFH/WOH senior manager. on the whole we have a pretty balanced relationship but the tidying thing really pisses me off.
Whilst I do agree that I probably need to be tougher on this, it is nice to see that people are capable of offering some advice on how to address this (when telling him straight doesn't work for more than a day or so) rather than just launching into the usual bitchfest.