Is it a con or can it help my sick child?

[Nightswimminginoldpants]

Homeopathy?

Feeling a bit vulnerable at the moment, so not sure if it’s clouding my view.

Dd is ill and I’m getting desperate. Have been talking to a homeopathist online, she is very intent that homeopathy will help my Dd get better.

Does it work?

Because it's interesting.

And you clearly can't explain it, which makes it even more interesting..

I am afraid this shows a woeful ignorance of what acupuncture does. Are you one of the posters on here who have shown a woeful ignorance about homeopathy too? So many have shown a scary amount of closed mindedness - as in 'I don't understand it, science can't explain it, so it must be "bollocks" or a "con" '. This is like worshipping science as though it is already complete and the only source of truth. All the herd have rushed on here to demonstrate how rational and objective they are, but actually show how they are the complete opposite. So sad.

As Dara O'Brien put it: 'But science doesn't know everything? Science knows it doesn't know everything; otherwise, it'd stop. But just because science doesn't know everything doesn't mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairy tale most appeals to you"

Well, noone on this thread has managed to explain why water cures illnesses...

@Nightswimminginoldpants
Have you seen a nutritional therapist? I think meeting with one and getting their advice could greatly help with all of the symptoms you've described.

Ive not yet as have been working alongside a neurologist and waiting for the Gi map, hoping something will stand out
I’m not sure it’s as simple as using a nutritional therapist, though I wish it was!

It's not that science can't explain it, it's that when trialled in double blind trials it has no effect. Homeopathy that is.

Acupuncture stimulates healing by causing mice trauma, definitely useful in some low level inflammations

It's unlikely to help but it's more likely to help than homeopathy. At least nutrients are rwal

Mice trauma?

Micro trauma (presumably)

Homeopathy has no effect, no. And just to update given some earlier posts stating it was used in ‘Europe’, that although homeopathy is legal everywhere I believe, increasingly few countries have insurance reimbursement for it. France stopped in 2021. It’s apparently becoming much more controversial even in Germany, where it was invented so there is a cultural allegiance to it.

My own anecdotal use of homeopathic Thuja as provided by a chiropodist for verrucas in the 80s was that it was useless. Years later after multiple other treatments followed by ignoring them, they just went away, which I believe is what verrucas eventually do. However, my negative anecdote has no more validity than others’ positive anecdotes.

More to the point, I am so sorry that your daughter and you all are suffering and I hope that things improve.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5320817/

Why do you keep using words and phrases you don't understand, like "closed mindedness" and "ignorance"?

I took my children to the nhs homeopathic hospital when it was open. The homeopathic consultants were trained peds doctors who then had additional training in homeopathics.

People say only trust modern medicine … but these were qualified drs who had found homeopathics so helpful they had retrained in it and chose to consult in if for a living. So if we should only trust trained drs … surely it’s ok to trust these drs’ opinion of homeopathics?

For people saying acupuncture nonsense … according to nhs … nhs does in some instances offer acupuncture and it also features in the NICE guidelines
https://www.nhs.uk/tests-and-treatments/acupuncture/

If I generally trust doctors and scientists, this does not mean I trust each individual one - or the other way around, why not trust the opinion of the vast majority of doctors, who say homeopathy is nonsense. There are plenty of antivax doctors, there are plenty of scientists who have had ideas that are against current established scientific consensus. Could have been that those doctors really liked the placebo effect.

The benefit of acupuncture for short term improvement in pain is real, but so limited that NICE recommends it be done by staff band 7 or lower as otherwise it’s not cost effective. But real nonetheless.

Huge numbers of studies of acupuncture have been published in English in my own field (swallowing therapy) in recent years. The bigger the study, the less impressive the results get, to the point where the big reviews show no difference from placebo.