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Is it a con or can it help my sick child?

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Nightswimminginoldpants · 21/08/2025 23:11

Homeopathy?

Feeling a bit vulnerable at the moment, so not sure if it’s clouding my view.

Dd is ill and I’m getting desperate. Have been talking to a homeopathist online, she is very intent that homeopathy will help my Dd get better.

Does it work?

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Bushmillsbabe · 22/08/2025 23:19

Nightswimminginoldpants · 22/08/2025 10:35

Definitely believe the gut is involved, she has had almost constant constipation, gas etc since 3. We have had numerous gastro tests done, but apparently the Gi map should dig deeper 🙏
We were on probiotics but have stopped a while ago due to doing this test.
Please could you pm me, literally desperate for any help x

I'm guessing they tested for coeliac? Only because my daughter had constant constipation, poor appetite, limited weight gain, bruised easily, often unwell, bloated tummy and after going back and forth many times was eventually diagnosed just before her 6th birthday. Her iron, calcium, B12 etc levels were really low as she couldn't absorb nutrition properly whilst still having gluten. 6 month post stopping, she is healthy weight, not constipated, not bloated, doesn't get sick, more energy and her recent blood tests showed significant improvements in all nutritional markers.

I hope you find an answer, it's so tough watching them go through all this x

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 00:53

flossydog · 22/08/2025 22:24

OK, so PANDAS is the idea that strep throat causes tics and/or OCD-like symptoms in kids and PANS is the idea that these can be caused by any other illness. There are lots of other things a sudden occurrence of tics or OCD could be:

  • Literally just Tourette's or OCD (this is screened for when you go for a diagnosis, but not if you self-diagnose)
  • A functional disorder like FND
  • Food restriction can be autism or anorexia instead of OCD
  • Tics can be sociogenic from social media or peers
And, the big one:
  • Gut dysbiosis is a possible cause for both OCD symptoms and tics. Intensive courses of antibiotics can cause dysbiosis, and children with strep throat and other illnesses are given antibiotics, and antibiotics is a common PANS/PANDAS treatment.

With all due respect, unless you are living it, you have No Idea. This happens virtually overnight and isn’t just tics or tourettes, it can be a whole variety of personality changes-anger/rage, that they can’t control and don’t understand, severe separation anxiety, v frightening intrusive thoughts, enlarged pupils, thoughts of suicide, constant needing to wee…all signs of inflammation in the brain.

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thebluehour · 23/08/2025 01:01

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 00:53

With all due respect, unless you are living it, you have No Idea. This happens virtually overnight and isn’t just tics or tourettes, it can be a whole variety of personality changes-anger/rage, that they can’t control and don’t understand, severe separation anxiety, v frightening intrusive thoughts, enlarged pupils, thoughts of suicide, constant needing to wee…all signs of inflammation in the brain.

Geez, love, you really need to read up on the gut-brain interaction. You have had very good advice on gut health on this thread and just ignore it.

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 01:03

thebluehour · 23/08/2025 01:01

Geez, love, you really need to read up on the gut-brain interaction. You have had very good advice on gut health on this thread and just ignore it.

I haven’t ignored it at all? I need to read up
on it? I’ve spent nearly two years reading up on it and if you see my posts on here I say I’m convinced a lot is to do with her stomach problems and she has had many appointments in the past with a gastro pediatric

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thebluehour · 23/08/2025 01:10

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 01:03

I haven’t ignored it at all? I need to read up
on it? I’ve spent nearly two years reading up on it and if you see my posts on here I say I’m convinced a lot is to do with her stomach problems and she has had many appointments in the past with a gastro pediatric

You need to actually make a concerted effort with her diet - not seeing a gastro, having more tests, or giving her probiotic pills, but rather pre and probiotic foods. If you have read up on it, and actually put it into action, by now you would not be wondering if homeopathy is the answer.

Starling7 · 23/08/2025 02:55

Ask your doctor to test her interleukin 6 levels. If they are high ask for a blocker. Lots of new research implicating Cytokines in autoimmune and other illnesses. The drugs used for rheumatoid arthritis block IL6 release.
Sending hugs xx

Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/08/2025 08:36

Starling7 · 23/08/2025 02:55

Ask your doctor to test her interleukin 6 levels. If they are high ask for a blocker. Lots of new research implicating Cytokines in autoimmune and other illnesses. The drugs used for rheumatoid arthritis block IL6 release.
Sending hugs xx

Anti-IL6 medications are a) not indicated for PANS/PANDA and b) contraindicated in patients with chronic or recurring infections.

LytesCarey · 23/08/2025 09:30

G5000 · 22/08/2025 21:11

That makes no sense.

Homeopathy is a license to print money - no research costs, no preclinical development, no clinical trials, no regulatory costs and of course no active ingredients, so all you pay for is the sugar/water and I think you need to have some kind of horsehair filled striking board, as slapping the water vials against it apparently makes it more potent. Teeny tiny fraction of a cost compared to bringing actual medicine to market.

And they 'remedies' are not even cheap - just checked random online pharmacy, homeopathic cold remedy is 2-3 times the price of a regular one.

I don't think you understand homeopathy. While there may be a place for "first aid" remedies such as you mention, generally it is uses a holistic approach, treating the person rather just the presenting sympton. Each person is different, hence the need for in-person consultations. I have always found the remedies very good value, but then I get them via a homeopath.

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 09:44

thebluehour · 23/08/2025 01:10

You need to actually make a concerted effort with her diet - not seeing a gastro, having more tests, or giving her probiotic pills, but rather pre and probiotic foods. If you have read up on it, and actually put it into action, by now you would not be wondering if homeopathy is the answer.

Excuse me?! Ive done everything with diet, I’ve tried everything it isnt as simple as that, you have no idea

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Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 09:45

Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/08/2025 08:36

Anti-IL6 medications are a) not indicated for PANS/PANDA and b) contraindicated in patients with chronic or recurring infections.

Should I not ask the Dr this?

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anyolddinosaur · 23/08/2025 10:15

Changing gut bacteria is quite difficult so it's a slow process. Prebiotics or probiotics will help that process along, changing diet will help long term but when your child is ill you want to speed up the process.

Changing gut bacteria also might not be enough on its own.

anyolddinosaur · 23/08/2025 11:02

OP you might like to look at success stories on online forums like this one https://latitudes.org/forums/forum/17-pans-pandas-lyme-included/

I wonder if it would be worth asking your doctors about lithium - it's considered to be a mood stabiliser. The main aim should be to avoid infections as much as you can but when she is having issues maybe it would help.

PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)

For support and discussion of Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders, strep, Lyme disease and related other infections For helpful articles and resources visit our PANDAS / PANS Page Learn about our helpful book: Your Child Has Change; Sho...

https://latitudes.org/forums/forum/17-pans-pandas-lyme-included

G5000 · 23/08/2025 11:10

LytesCarey · 23/08/2025 09:30

I don't think you understand homeopathy. While there may be a place for "first aid" remedies such as you mention, generally it is uses a holistic approach, treating the person rather just the presenting sympton. Each person is different, hence the need for in-person consultations. I have always found the remedies very good value, but then I get them via a homeopath.

I've done plenty of research and I agree, it's the 'holistic' approach that works. Many studies have demonstrated that being listened to and feeling that the health care provider takes you seriously gives great results, even if the treatment provided is a placebo.

Starling7 · 23/08/2025 11:25

Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/08/2025 08:36

Anti-IL6 medications are a) not indicated for PANS/PANDA and b) contraindicated in patients with chronic or recurring infections.

It's early days.

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 12:57

Starling7 · 23/08/2025 11:25

It's early days.

What do you mean please?

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Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 13:01

anyolddinosaur · 23/08/2025 11:02

OP you might like to look at success stories on online forums like this one https://latitudes.org/forums/forum/17-pans-pandas-lyme-included/

I wonder if it would be worth asking your doctors about lithium - it's considered to be a mood stabiliser. The main aim should be to avoid infections as much as you can but when she is having issues maybe it would help.

Really don’t want to have to resort to those types of drugs, she’s so young 😢

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Pricelessadvice · 23/08/2025 13:06

Nightswimminginoldpants · 22/08/2025 08:55

Pans?

No, but a similar ‘of the time’ illness that turned out to be a misdiagnosis. Feel free to drop me a PM.

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 23/08/2025 13:08

OP somethings just don’t have a quick fix. It is increadibly hard as a parent but that is the way of life. All e can do is keep going, muddling through.

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 13:15

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 23/08/2025 13:08

OP somethings just don’t have a quick fix. It is increadibly hard as a parent but that is the way of life. All e can do is keep going, muddling through.

Have you been through it? For this length of time?

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BusWankers · 23/08/2025 13:39

BunfightBetty · 22/08/2025 22:29

Like I say, I’m not trying to convince you.

Which just reinforces the idea that people cannot explain how a vial of water works because it's called homeopathic. Which leads me to believe it's absolute bollocks.

anyolddinosaur · 23/08/2025 13:49

Nightswimminginoldpants · 23/08/2025 13:01

Really don’t want to have to resort to those types of drugs, she’s so young 😢

Your doctor might not recommend it. But if a low dose could get her back to school might be worth it just for a short time.

Iamtarticus · 23/08/2025 13:57

What are her symptoms?

thebluehour · 23/08/2025 14:02

anyolddinosaur · 23/08/2025 10:15

Changing gut bacteria is quite difficult so it's a slow process. Prebiotics or probiotics will help that process along, changing diet will help long term but when your child is ill you want to speed up the process.

Changing gut bacteria also might not be enough on its own.

Changes in gut flora composition occur within days of dietary changes. It isn't that difficult, and I don't believe the OP has done at all what has been suggested by a pp on this thread, or she would not be talking about probiotic supplements.

popcornpower2025 · 23/08/2025 14:20

Just a thought on the 'it's a con' argument. If homeopaths were competent and confident con artists would they not pursue something more lucrative? Homeopaths are not rolling in cash

LytesCarey · 23/08/2025 14:23

popcornpower2025 · 23/08/2025 14:20

Just a thought on the 'it's a con' argument. If homeopaths were competent and confident con artists would they not pursue something more lucrative? Homeopaths are not rolling in cash

Neither would they embark on lengthy and expensive training. The homeopaths I have come across over years are all very genuine people with a strong desire to heal others using a system that they feel is healthier for mind and body than allopathic medicine alone.

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