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Is it a con or can it help my sick child?

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Nightswimminginoldpants · 21/08/2025 23:11

Homeopathy?

Feeling a bit vulnerable at the moment, so not sure if it’s clouding my view.

Dd is ill and I’m getting desperate. Have been talking to a homeopathist online, she is very intent that homeopathy will help my Dd get better.

Does it work?

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BusWankers · 22/08/2025 17:32

Alwaysinamood · 22/08/2025 12:48

It’s because it doesn’t make any money for big pharma that’s why

😂

Hoppinggreen · 22/08/2025 17:34

My DD had asthma and eczma and we saw a Homeopath
She somehow got hold of the tablets we paid a fortune for and ate them all. We rushed her to A&E and phoned the Homeopath en route
Homeopath laughed and said that it wasn't a problem as there was nothing in them that she could OD on
Made me realise it was total bollocks

Thoughtsforcoffee · 22/08/2025 17:55

flossydog · 22/08/2025 17:27

I'm always happy to learn and admit when I'm wrong. What was the blood test show? Strep? What treatment did the NHS offer?

What I'm seeing is people seeking this diagnosis for their kids based on online advice (you must have seen all the social media threads) and seeking out antibiotics which, if they're wrong, is harming the kid for no benefit.

I'm not saying kids don't have these symptoms, but that the suggested causation (a pocket of infection remaining in the system) is speculative and not proven, to my knowledge based on all I've read up on this.

It's a similar story to Chronic Lyme. My worry is that people are desperate for their kids and are acting on good intentions but end up doing stuff that can harm them in the long run. And you can see the snake-oil people are sold, with the homeopaths etc.

I’m not really on social media so don’t see a lot of the online stuff, but like you I’m happy to learn!
bloods showed high levels of strep titre which went down post treatment (along with so many of her symptoms). Onset was literally overnight. Seen initially in a&e, then gp, then neurology who diagnosed. Treatment has been antibiotics, steroids, and NSAIDs. Happy to answer anything else 😊

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

Namenamchange · 22/08/2025 10:07

Arnica cream would be a herbal remedy, homeopathy is water, Herbal and homeopathy are not the same thing.

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

LillyPJ · 22/08/2025 18:36

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

I can't believe the people willing to believe something that has failed to prove its efficacy in any properly conducted trials.

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:38

LillyPJ · 22/08/2025 18:36

I can't believe the people willing to believe something that has failed to prove its efficacy in any properly conducted trials.

What trials? Please reference what you are saying here.

G5000 · 22/08/2025 18:39

Some of us have openmindedly taken a look at the evidence that shows homeopathy does not work and cannot work, as the claims how it is supposed to work are nonsensical. Persisting in a belief despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary would be close-minded.

EyeLevelStick · 22/08/2025 18:40

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

Homeopathy is just water. Or sugar tablets. What makes you think you know more than I do?

Nopenott0day · 22/08/2025 18:44

Didimum · 22/08/2025 00:24

The effectiveness of Homeopathy, which is an alternative medicine.

It's not an alternative medicine. It is alternative to medicine.

BusWankers · 22/08/2025 18:50

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

Well, what is it about homeopathy that works?

How does that small vial of water that contains roughly 1 molecule in every 2 litres... Even work?

Please enlighten us.

BusWankers · 22/08/2025 18:51

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:38

What trials? Please reference what you are saying here.

Feel free to reference the trials that prove it works in the meantime...

Didimum · 22/08/2025 18:56

Nopenott0day · 22/08/2025 18:44

It's not an alternative medicine. It is alternative to medicine.

It's widely called 'alternative medicine', by NHS, John Hopkins, National Cancer Institute, Mind ... I could go on.

LillyPJ · 22/08/2025 19:00

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:38

What trials? Please reference what you are saying here.

I'm saying that homeopathy has never been shown to work when it's been tested under proper conditions - the sort of trials that real medicines have to undergo before they are allowed to be sold as medicines. It will be big news if homeopathy ever passes those sorts of tests but I won't hold my breath.

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:06

toadinthebucket · 22/08/2025 10:21

This suggests you don't know what homeopathy is. So please tell us what you believe it to be ans which illnesses it "cured".

I know exactly what it is, which seems unusual on here - with people spouting on as though to show about logical and and science-based they are, though they seem very ignorant about it. I understand up to a point why people react like this (needing to "prove" how rational they are, going with the herd rather than keeping an open mind), but we do not know everything yet. Perhaps the effectiveness of extremely small dilutions will be understood one day. Quantum physics might point the way.

I have used it over many years on and off as needed. It was hugely effective as I said earlier in the thread in treating a serious thyroid problem and my mother's tinnitus which doctors had told her she would just have to "learn to live with". I have also been treated for more minor though troubling issues.

To those who say it is not effective for animals, I know of several dogs that have been successfully treated, and also of a whole herd of cows troubled by mastitis being cured with a remedy put into their drinking water trough. No placebo effect possible there!

Bobbingtons · 22/08/2025 19:14

If homeopathy worked then swimming in the sea would cure all illnesses as it contains about the same substance concentrations of almost every chemical on earth.
You are as likely to be cured by homeopathic remedies as you are too be poisoned by chemtrails......

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:15

Sera1989 · 22/08/2025 10:42

Also licensed medicines have been produced to have a specific amount of active ingredient and are tested to ensure nothing harmful is used in the filler. I saw a urologist for a few years and he told me he’d seen lots and lots of young women with kidney problems from taking herbal remedies. Obviously not all are dangerous or contaminated, but I would spend more to buy from a reputable brand and I wouldn’t buy or accept accept anything that isn’t in original or labelled packaging (I once went to a Chinese herbalist who gave me some liquid in a brown unlabelled bottle and I was just supposed to trust that it was medicine). I was vulnerable and desperate for a cure which never came, now I’m very sceptical of quackery

What does this sorry tale have to do with homeopathy? Absolutely nothing, just blatant scaremongering. Homeopathic remedies though effective when given appropriately to a patient, are absolutely safe to anyone.

housethatbuiltme · 22/08/2025 19:16

Fleur405 · 22/08/2025 10:40

You are thinking of herbal medicine. I for example used some “self heal” from the garden to treat my daughter’s grazed knee yesterday because it has antiseptic and anti inflammatory properties. Many plant compounds form the basis of conventional medicines.

Homeothapy is based on some medieval hocus pocus and is literally the practice of selling WATER in sugar tablets with some silly notion that the water has memory. It cannot work beyond a placebo effect because it does not contain anything.

I mean it is used as an option by the NHS. While they have reduced funding its still an option they offer some people.

Edit: apparently they have completely cut it now but it was an option for a long time.

G5000 · 22/08/2025 19:18

Pet caregiver placebo effect is very much a thing. Plus of course regression to the mean - as mentioned before, my dog was magically cured of lameness overnight. My guess is - by healing powers of nature. But could have been a tooth fairy as well, let's keep an open mind here.

NamelessNancy · 22/08/2025 19:21

G5000 · 22/08/2025 19:18

Pet caregiver placebo effect is very much a thing. Plus of course regression to the mean - as mentioned before, my dog was magically cured of lameness overnight. My guess is - by healing powers of nature. But could have been a tooth fairy as well, let's keep an open mind here.

Quite. Many animals and people will, indeed, get well with time alone (and a functioning immune system). Correlation does not imply causation!

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:23

SurferRona · 22/08/2025 11:54

Can I also just say, I am a huge fan of acupuncture. Tons of solid robust clinical evidence for its effectiveness. And it works in animals. (So rules out placebo, if it has a clinical observable benefit on a creature without ‘consciousness’ in the way humans have). So it isn’t that I am suspicious of all complementary therapies, just the bollocks and placebo which is all homeopathy offers.

Acupuncture used to suffer the same kind of bigotry and closed mind, as no one (especially doctors) could understand the meridien system upon which it is based and did not accept it. Why condemn out of hand something you know nothing about? There is no placebo effect when treating animals, which homeopathy does.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 22/08/2025 19:24

What I don't get about homeopathy is that, say it's true that very diluted chemicals have a powerful effect on the body, even MORE powerful than concentrated versions... how are we not all completely high from tap water? There's traces of cocaine, ketamine, all sorts in rivers and drinking water. There's also antibiotics, birth control (how come we're not all sterile?), pesticides, fertilisers, blood pressure drugs, antidepressants...

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:24

ytemussel · 22/08/2025 12:52

Others on this thread have said that homeopathy is cheaper than big pharma med (I don't know if this is true or not). If it is, why would the NHS not be funding it? I would save them a fortune.

In three words - the pharma industry.

AllPlayedOut · 22/08/2025 19:26

G5000 · 22/08/2025 19:18

Pet caregiver placebo effect is very much a thing. Plus of course regression to the mean - as mentioned before, my dog was magically cured of lameness overnight. My guess is - by healing powers of nature. But could have been a tooth fairy as well, let's keep an open mind here.

I used to have a dog who went through a prolonged period of frantically biting himself. It was very distressing for everyone and we’d tried the vet, a behaviourist, everything. Then out of desperation we tried a homeopathic remedy from Amazon(We didn’t actually realise that it was homeopathic and thought that it was herbal) and ordered it. I had Prime so it was due to be delivered the next day. Only it didn’t arrive the next day but the day after that. But the next day, when it should have arrived, he suddenly stopped biting himself and never did it again.

No idea why but if the remedy had arrived as it was supposed to do so that day we’d have given him the remedy and thought it was a miracle cure, but no. It would have stopped regardless.

NamelessNancy · 22/08/2025 19:32

FFS. Homeopathy was dreamed up a few hundred years ago. If it worked (it doesn't) there'd be no such thing as "big pharma". People and animals may both get better after taking homeopathic remedies. There is no evidence that they get better as a result of taking homeopathic remedies!

Bobbingtons · 22/08/2025 19:39

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:06

I know exactly what it is, which seems unusual on here - with people spouting on as though to show about logical and and science-based they are, though they seem very ignorant about it. I understand up to a point why people react like this (needing to "prove" how rational they are, going with the herd rather than keeping an open mind), but we do not know everything yet. Perhaps the effectiveness of extremely small dilutions will be understood one day. Quantum physics might point the way.

I have used it over many years on and off as needed. It was hugely effective as I said earlier in the thread in treating a serious thyroid problem and my mother's tinnitus which doctors had told her she would just have to "learn to live with". I have also been treated for more minor though troubling issues.

To those who say it is not effective for animals, I know of several dogs that have been successfully treated, and also of a whole herd of cows troubled by mastitis being cured with a remedy put into their drinking water trough. No placebo effect possible there!

Actually there is evidence of the placebo effect on animals which has come out of double blind studies. They theorise that the animals are affected by their relationships with their owners.

Recognizing the placebo effect in veterinary medicine - News - VIN share.google/imBKShC9l2fJxD9IZ

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