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to think that if this isn't racism, then what the hell is?

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YourFavouriteFalafel · 20/08/2025 19:10

According to the comments I've seen from Tommy Robinson's supporters, this isn't racism - he's just doing his best to protect white children and raise awareness! The article mentions he still hasn't deleted the video, despite the threats and abuse the family are facing. What will it actually take for his blind followers to wake up and smell the coffee?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters?

Family in fear after Tommy Robinson shares video of black man with white granddaughters

Exclusive: Olajuwon Ayeni racially abused and falsely labelled a paedophile as far right weaponises clip of family in park

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

OP posts:
Timeforabitofpeace · 21/08/2025 21:36

I do not want the likes of him defending my family or speaking on my behalf, with his racism and faux hero complex. He’s a nasty fucker, and mainly in it for the money, too.

XWKD · 21/08/2025 21:39

Of course it's racism, however, on here 18% of respondents think you're being unreasonable. That's a bit scary.

LadyHartley · 21/08/2025 22:12

JHound · 21/08/2025 20:52

I responded to the story in OP. Take it up with that.

Edited

You complained that someone posted something false online. And then you did the same.

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2025 22:21

Here comes the whataboutery.

rockstarshoes · 21/08/2025 22:26

It is racist 💯 but they will be along in a minute with their faux concern & right wing trope!

SquishedMallow · 21/08/2025 22:30

Sorry I can't view the article, but I think it's a well established fact that TR is racist? Is he not in prison? (Obviously I'm a bit behind !)

bozzabollix · 21/08/2025 22:30

It’s racism, and it’s sickening, the result of wall to wall Farage on the TV to give so called ‘balance’. More like giving fascism a platform.

The media in this country have a lot to answer for.

BIWI · 21/08/2025 22:31

Idiotic? No, Clavinova. You know exactly what you’re doing with your posts. I could be a lot ruder about you.

CrochetQueeen · 21/08/2025 22:35

Of course, makes me sick. We have African heritage, my dad obviously so, my kids less so (one also blonde and blue eyes) and he'd find it heartbreakingly uncomfortable. People wouldn't understand I was his daughter let alone the grandkids. Disgusting behaviour wouldn't expect anything else

iwishihadaname · 21/08/2025 22:35

I told my husband to make sure our white looking grandchildren call him grampy in public so any racists who may be about get the wrong idea especially if he with them without me.

I feel so sorry for this man

iwishihadaname · 21/08/2025 22:35

iwishihadaname · 21/08/2025 22:35

I told my husband to make sure our white looking grandchildren call him grampy in public so any racists who may be about get the wrong idea especially if he with them without me.

I feel so sorry for this man

He is asian

Clavinova · 21/08/2025 22:45

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2025 21:33

I'm not defending . I'm curious about your intervention which appears to be suggesting it's not unreasonable to assume the man isn't a grandfather and wondered whether you were implying that confusion over identity was reasonable, and therefore one mighg gave suspicions. Have you read the captions on the film as posted?

I don't understand the objective of your first post.

Have you read the captions on the film as posted?

Obviously not - I thought one girl looked a bit older than the other - the article doesn't say they are twins.

[I] wondered whether you were implying that confusion over identity was reasonable

The poster I was replying to didn't have the full facts as the article doesn't mention their ages. Regarding the film, it's difficult to tell how old the other man is in any case.

I don't understand the objective of your first post

I think it's daft to refer to a 34 year old as grandfather in the article. That doesn't mean the film warrants a comment from Tommy Robinson.

TinyIsMyNewt · 21/08/2025 22:48

LadyHartley · 21/08/2025 22:12

You complained that someone posted something false online. And then you did the same.

Fine, I guess I'll do the token response to the newly-registered poster on a Tommy Robinson thread.

Robinson took the video, clearly labelled as being a grandfather playing with his grandkids, and reposted it without the tag, implying something untoward was going on, when he knew otherwise. E.g. he very likely intentionally lied, for the sake of being a racist twat, in a way that has severely negatively impacted his victim.

He then left it up for several days, ignoring repeated messages confirming the family relationship, eventually taking it down after the press reported on it.

E.g. even if he was stupid enough not to realize he originally posted something harmful and dishonest, he persisted in allowing it to be spread for a significant period of time despite many messages confirming the clip was of family members playing together.

JHounds' post, on the other hand, was simply a matter of hours out-of-date, but their general point of "Even if it wasnt an accident, why leave it up for so long" still stands.

Your attempt to draw an equivalence is pathetic.

Clavinova · 21/08/2025 22:49

BIWI · 21/08/2025 22:31

Idiotic? No, Clavinova. You know exactly what you’re doing with your posts. I could be a lot ruder about you.

No, I don't - please tell me exactly what I was doing.

JHound · 22/08/2025 01:56

LadyHartley · 21/08/2025 22:12

You complained that someone posted something false online. And then you did the same.

He did post something false online. I quoted the story in the OP. Take it up with OP.

The Yaxley-Lennon fanbots are tired.

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2025 07:03

Clav , the whole point is the video freeze frame is shown and says the man is their grandfather, more than once. Robinson saw this -and then removed it.

It matters not one jot whether you personally in your high tower think is is silly to call this man the girls' grandfather. that's what this family choose to do. What do you want him to be called. The press are reporting this in the terms the family use. The young girls won't be thinking ' gosh. this lovely man is too young to be my grandpa'

My children have just lost their grandpa. They called him that for most of their lives after he married MIL. The gap isn't as big as this but he was too young to be my DH's father and at the younger end of possibility to be their grandfather. He was adored. They called him grandpa. He meant more to them than their biological , older grandfather.

If your point isn't that you can see how someone misread his intentions in being in a park with young girls, why are you making such a fuss over labels?? It's like those MN threads where people tortuously call people 'DH's nephew' or something and insist blood relatives mean more. That implication is indeed used by people to suggest 'blood is thicker than water' and could imply the man is not genuine. We all know the awful tropes applied to black men and to biracial relationships - Robinson is totally deliberately exploiting the idea of black men as sexual predators.

Are you just doing that thing of thinking 'no one has spotted his age so I must point it out?'. I spotted it, thought not much of it and moved on. An age gap with genders reversed would barely raise comment. It's tedious and it is distracting form the topic.

You really need to explain clearly why you think his age is relevant . Otherwise it sounds like you are saying 'but you can see why people thought it was weird'.

The damage done to this man and his family is irreversible.

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2025 07:08

The caption I was referring to clav (I can't tell if you are deliberately now focusing on the girls' ages) is RIGHT AT THE TOP of The Guardian article. How you didn't even look or see it is beyond me. Look again.

It said on the original video

'granddad duties with the twins' and 'poppa duties'.

Its a clip taken I presume by the grandmother and quite far aways so you can't remotely guess the man's age.

I have no idea how TR got his hands on it but what he did to it is sinister. I bet he assumed the man was of Somalian heritage . This to Tommy and his gang would be enough to be able to suggest he was harming women and girls.

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2025 07:12

bozzabollix · 21/08/2025 22:30

It’s racism, and it’s sickening, the result of wall to wall Farage on the TV to give so called ‘balance’. More like giving fascism a platform.

The media in this country have a lot to answer for.

I don't disagree with you on Farage there but I don't understand the media's role in this case? TR operates separately from Farage and has, in fact, been around far longer than Farage doing what he does. He's just been aided and abetted by social medias so no longer has to leaflet or hang around outside LTFC.

Corfumanchu · 22/08/2025 09:42

I would be very wary of leaving little girls of this age alone with any step grandfatber or uncle whatever their colour.

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2025 09:45

WTAF?

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2025 09:46

You realise the grandmother was there right?? She made the video.

But anyway, still WTAF.

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