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Breach of Alcohol Undertaking Family Court

111 replies

Minions2000 · 18/08/2025 09:30

My partner took me to court for alcohol, social and court were involved and I was a week off of obtaining a residency order and my behaviour was detrimental.
The children are now with their dad and we have not heard from social however they have been informed.
I slipped up with the drink to a point where he needed to step in, I had also been issued an alcohol undertaking
We are both as parents working together, to get the help and cause minimal disturbance to the kids.
What will happen?

OP posts:
Mangotangoisshit · 18/08/2025 17:53

Were the kids with you when you were drunk on this last occasion?

Minions2000 · 18/08/2025 17:55

@Mangotangoisshit unfortunately they were

OP posts:
mbosnz · 18/08/2025 18:05

The main thing is that the children are safe, they are loved, they are in their Dad's care, being shielded from being impacted by your addiction, and being well provided for.

This gives you space to truly come to understand that you are an alcohol addict, an alcoholic, and that you fundamentally need to change your life, your habits, and your coping strategies to live with this in a way that doesn't continue to further impact on your children.

All the clean houses, arts and crafts, home baking, in the world, doesn't make up for being scared that Mummy gets unpredictable and does silly things.

It might be you need AA, and a sponsor, or maybe you have a good friend or family member who has walked this path ahead of you, and is willing and able to support you, for you to be accountable to, and able to ring if you are struggling with your sobriety.

There is a shit load of sober lit, sober forums, sober books that you can access. Mrs D is going without was really good for me (there's an online forum attached to it too).

This is a really hard time and place that you are in right now. You can come out of it, to a better one, but it's going to take hard work, and time - not least to show the father of those children that you can be entrusted with their wellbeing, both mental and physical.

My sober saviour (sorry M, I know you'd absolutely yak if you read that, lol) told me that the first 100 days are a bitch. He wasn't wrong. But with every sober day under your belt, you have another day of learning and managing to cope with triggers without alcohol, and another precious sober day to add to your tally, and that becomes a prize you don't want to lose.

Mangotangoisshit · 18/08/2025 18:18

What does the alcohol undertaking involve OP?

jacks11 · 18/08/2025 18:37

OP, I think you need to consider whether the children being resident with you is what you want, for your own sake, or because it is what is best and safest for them? You really, really need to examine your motivations here, I think. Do what is best and safest for them, not what makes you happiest.

Can you honestly say you will never get so drunk they are unsafe again? I don’t think you can, hand on heart, in all honesty. I’m sure you think right now “I’ll never do it again”, but I bet if you asked yourself before the most recent incident if you would you did, I’d bet that you would have said “absolutely not”. If you think that 100% there is “no chance”, I would tell you that you are lying to yourself, as much as you are lying anyone else.

I say this as the family member of an addict, who has wreaked havoc on his ex-wife and children. He is not a monster, he has many positive points- articulate, intelligent, interesting, funny, kind and generous. When sober, he is genuinely a lovely man. Drunk, he is an aggressive, sharp-tongued horror. Tipsy he is sarcastic and cutting, can be quite cruel, and easily angered/brought to tears. I know, without a doubt, that he loves both her and his children. That has never been in doubt, he desperately did not want his marriage to fall apart and not being able to see his children every day was a huge source of pain and sorrow.

The issue is that his addiction/illness had a greater hold on him for a long time and, in the end, his addiction was stronger than his desire to get better and stay better when it mattered. Sadly, the damage he has done cannot be undone. He has lost his wife, his home, and sacrificed his children’s stable childhoods. He has very fraught relationships with his children, who harbour so much pain and resentment towards him (with good cause). He lost his career and he has chronic liver disease, amongst other things.

I think if he had stepped away (I’m not saying no contact), sought proper help, and taken the time to get better, he might have had a marriage and a family to go back to. He might not have damaged his children. He might have a career and a healthy body. It’s too late for him, and his family, but it’s not too late for you. If you take the hard decisions now, put your children and their well-being first, you will be giving you all the best chance of a happy outcome.

I understand that you don’t want to be separated from your children- but I imagine their father doesn’t either. I can only imagine the worry he would have if he were to leave you alone with them. I don’t mean to upset you, but you are quite casually dismissive of his views of “one drink being one drink too many”. For you, it is. You have shown you only managed a matter of weeks before relapsing. Not a “blip”- don’t minimise the seriousness of this. This relapse came at a time when you knew you were under intense scrutiny by the courts regarding your abstinence from alcohol- you had a falling out with your friend and got so drunk your children were unsafe with you. What will happen the next time you are upset or angry or stressed? You have shown him that there is a chance your shared children will be endangered by you again- it’s too soon to say you won’t do it again. If you couldn’t do it with this court supervision hanging over you, I think it’s wishful thinking to believe that it could never happen again.

I’m glad you are seeking help, and it’s a good first step, but you aren’t in recovery yet.

CalicoPusscat · 18/08/2025 18:52

Agree with @jacks11. It's a time at present to attempt to sort out the situation.
It must have been bad if last Wednesday wasn't enough for you to protect them.

We do care about you but also the children and the situation? It might sound drastic no alcohol for years but it's not helping anyone and I'm sure you want better reasoning. Because alcohol does come first at present no matter what you say about the children: it leads to distorted thinking, behavioural patterns and sometimes harmful accidents.

NoSoupForU · 18/08/2025 19:02

They aren't blips. They are the result of you priorising drinking over your children. Consequently, your children are not your life. Alcohol is.

Why haven't you been to your GP, or sought any other sort of help before? Was potentially losing your children not motivation enough?

Likely outcome here is that you'll be allowed supervised access only. If your (ex?)partner changes course and says you aren't any risk there is also a fair chance he will also be subject to social services involvement and both of you will have to prove ability to parent.

AngelicInnocent · 19/08/2025 09:17

Op how did it go with the social worker last night.

nellly · 19/08/2025 09:27

I think it’s important for you and them to prepare for the fact they may live with their dad full time. Try to frame it as positive for you and for them to help them adjust.
you need space to get better, alcoholism is a nasty nasty disease and hard to fight. You need to give yourself chance to do that.

you can still be a positive involved mum who doesn’t live with them. Be a massive influence in their lives and support them into adulthood even if they mostly live with their dad ❤️

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 19/08/2025 19:20

How are you doing OP? Hope everything is ok. 💐

VaseofViolets · 19/08/2025 19:33

Minions2000 · 18/08/2025 17:55

@Mangotangoisshit unfortunately they were

Your children aren’t your life OP. Alcohol is. You have to be honest with yourself if you want to beat this, and you have to choose. You can have your children, or the booze. You can’t have both.

No point in lying to yourself and telling yourself you’re a good mum. It’s not true and it’s not helping you. You’re prioritising drink over your children.

Is this rock bottom? Can it get any worse than this? Maybe so, or maybe you’re just not there yet. What will it take for you to stop? Alcohol is so helpful at first… a friend, an anaesthetic, a crutch. But it’s only ever an illusion. It’s never been a help. There’s a life after alcohol - and it’s a good life. You can get there. You can get to a good place where your hours, days aren’t dictated by the bottle. At one point I never thought it’d be possible to say that, but it’s true. But the only one who can do this is you.

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