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To ask if you've ever reported somebody for benefit fraud

202 replies

Fragmentedbrain · 17/08/2025 21:07

And if the DWP subsequently came for them

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Panterusblackish · 17/08/2025 22:12

verycloakanddaggers · 17/08/2025 21:42

Benefit fraud is already pretty effectively dealt with, there's far more tax fraud and many many times more money lost that way.

But financial rewards just drive misreporting and snooping, with negative consequences for society. It's better to just stick to encouraging decent behaviour.

No it isn't.

Last years benefit fraud is estimated at 7.4 billion

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2023-to-2024-estimates/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-ending-fye-2024

It's theft and no one should be turning a blind eye to it.

Fraud and error in the benefit system, Financial Year Ending (FYE) 2024

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2023-to-2024-estimates/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-ending-fye-2024

Panterusblackish · 17/08/2025 22:18

LaurieFairyCake · 17/08/2025 21:59

Never

I only care about millionaires getting away with fucking us by not paying tax

Some single mum abandoned by some twat to bring up kids alone getting £30 cash in hand I don’t give a fuck about. Benefit amount are SHAMEFUL compared to tax breaks for the rich.

The rich contribute a huge amount in tax.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/income-tax-liabilities-statistics-tax-year-2020-to-2021-to-tax-year-2023-to-2024/summary-statistics

Why should they fund another 7.4 billion to line criminals pockets.

It's theft.

Summary Statistics

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/income-tax-liabilities-statistics-tax-year-2020-to-2021-to-tax-year-2023-to-2024/summary-statistics

PeachPumpkin · 17/08/2025 22:28

XenoBitch · 17/08/2025 22:07

There is no housing benefit. There is the housing element that is part of a UC award. And this would have been verified with tenancy agreements etc.

Housing Benefit still exists and some people get it.

ThankYouNigel · 17/08/2025 22:29

I have never claimed benefits, but I know several other parents who openly talk to others I know better about dubious benefits/outright benefit fraud. I wouldn’t dream of reporting them, absolutely not. They are still very badly off financially, raising large families, caring for numerous other family members, etc. Kind hearted people actually- they’ve certainly offered to help me out when I’ve needed cover for my own school run or had car trouble. None of my business. Chatting to some has made me far less judgmental and aware of their individual situations.

I have far less time morally for those who are already extremely rich, but fraudulently find more and more ways to ensure they become even richer.

XenoBitch · 17/08/2025 22:30

PeachPumpkin · 17/08/2025 22:28

Housing Benefit still exists and some people get it.

Not if you are on UC.

PeachPumpkin · 17/08/2025 22:32

XenoBitch · 17/08/2025 22:30

Not if you are on UC.

In limited situations, some people can get UC and HB.

PeachPumpkin · 17/08/2025 22:35

PeachPumpkin · 17/08/2025 22:32

In limited situations, some people can get UC and HB.

I wasn’t talking about any particular situation anyway, I just thought I’d mention it as it’s a common misconception that Housing Benefit no longer exists.

Shelbellsanddoodles · 17/08/2025 22:45

I have but I issue crisis grants so it's part of the job. It's all anonymous so don't get the outcome and unless the applicant applies again and I get the case - I would never know.

Fragmentedbrain · 17/08/2025 22:45

Idk if it was a literal description. Maybe they're just lying to wind folk up ofc.

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OSTMusTisNT · 17/08/2025 23:36

Fragmentedbrain · 17/08/2025 21:59

The person I'm thinking of is in receipt of a household income of about 100k. That's not the only issue but it confused me - is it feasible the claimant could hide salary? (I assume not and that at a bare minimum the NI number should allow for an immediate eligibility check)

Earnings via PAYE are almost instantly passed to HMRC & DWP so I cant imagine someone would be receiving Univeral Credit with that level of income.

Are you sure it's a means tested benefit as things like PIP aren't - King Charles could claim PIP!

Housing Benefit doesn't generally exist now except for Pensioners and some more obscure (rare) tenancy types.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 17/08/2025 23:47

mumofoneAloneandwell · 17/08/2025 21:43

No. Steadfastly against it. Leave people alone, even if they aren't your cup of tea.

Absolutely agree,I mind my own business!

bumbaloo · 17/08/2025 23:54

mumofoneAloneandwell · 17/08/2025 21:43

No. Steadfastly against it. Leave people alone, even if they aren't your cup of tea.

Would you apply your thinking to domestic violence or discharging raw sewage into the public waterways or online use of child porn?
What other crimes do you merrily stand by knowing they are being committed ?

bumbaloo · 17/08/2025 23:55

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 17/08/2025 23:47

Absolutely agree,I mind my own business!

Ditto my precious message? What other crimes do you actively ignore?

GarlicLitre · 18/08/2025 00:10

No, but I've been reported for suspected Housing Benefit fraud. The benefit was stopped pending investigation, which took longer than two months to complete and I was evicted. Losing my flat, with no money for another deposit, changed the course of my life for the worse and I am now stuck with the consequences.

Since I wasn't cheating, the council paid my arrears to my (now ex) landlord but it was too late.

Some people do cheat the system - every system has its cheats - but nowhere near as many as you think. Unless you've got actual, solid evidence, don't be a fucking busybody ruining other people's lives.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/08/2025 00:22

bumbaloo · 17/08/2025 23:54

Would you apply your thinking to domestic violence or discharging raw sewage into the public waterways or online use of child porn?
What other crimes do you merrily stand by knowing they are being committed ?

Just benefit fraud 🥰 - literally couldn't give a shit

Which is in no way comparable to child porn or dv 😭

CaramelGhost · 18/08/2025 00:22

LaurieFairyCake · 17/08/2025 21:59

Never

I only care about millionaires getting away with fucking us by not paying tax

Some single mum abandoned by some twat to bring up kids alone getting £30 cash in hand I don’t give a fuck about. Benefit amount are SHAMEFUL compared to tax breaks for the rich.

That's not the only scenario is it? How about 5 years on and the mums earning 40k and moved in her boyfriend earning 50k. Dirt cheap rent and still claiming those same old benefits while being neighbours from hell? Not my story but seen in more than once.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/08/2025 00:24

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 17/08/2025 23:47

Absolutely agree,I mind my own business!

Stevie Wonder Deal With It GIF

I'm a nosy woman too

But one whiff of this conversation and i am suddenly stevie wonder blind 😏

rocket74 · 18/08/2025 00:28

Never.
Benefit fraud is a minuscule amount compared to tax fraud, offshore accounts, millionaires ‘playing the game’.
The UK media (owned by billionaires) is desperate for us to hate and demonise the poorest among us whilst they line their pockets with the outcome.
All the COVID scammers who made millions from contracts, all the landlords with hundreds of squalid houses getting benefits paid directly to them. Every time you buy a shitrag like The Sun/Mail/Express telling you to hate and distrust everyone.
Nah. Have some bloody decency.

kiddywinkleyeee · 18/08/2025 00:40

NC for my reply.
After the hideous experience that myself ,colleagues and clients have experienced I would never report anyone for any minor tax dodging!!!
Cannot give anymore details but the creature that is responsible will be exposed in the press this coming week !!

mintydoggyv · 18/08/2025 02:07

XenoBitch · 17/08/2025 21:48

I just looked it up and you are right. She actually shouted at me and said PB does not count. She was also adamant she could get Attendance Allowance. She is 45.

Attendance allowance is only for pensioners, so she can't even claim it if under 66

Tablesandchairs23 · 18/08/2025 02:10

I did my neighbour. She was in receipt of benefits told everyone she was to disabled to work. But work full time cash in hand.

TheGreatWesternShrew · 18/08/2025 02:40

rocket74 · 18/08/2025 00:28

Never.
Benefit fraud is a minuscule amount compared to tax fraud, offshore accounts, millionaires ‘playing the game’.
The UK media (owned by billionaires) is desperate for us to hate and demonise the poorest among us whilst they line their pockets with the outcome.
All the COVID scammers who made millions from contracts, all the landlords with hundreds of squalid houses getting benefits paid directly to them. Every time you buy a shitrag like The Sun/Mail/Express telling you to hate and distrust everyone.
Nah. Have some bloody decency.

You say this but I used to be a member of the media. We’re really not as instructed by owners as you think - and your average run of the mill journo earns about £30k. Hardly rich.

Mykittensaremyfriends · 18/08/2025 02:52

Lemniscate8 · 17/08/2025 21:57

I reported someone for driving with health conditions which meant they should have surrendered their licence, and their licence was indeed taken off them . No regrets. They never knew it was me

Can I ask how you went about reporting them and what info you needed to give?

48mumof6 · 18/08/2025 03:14

No I have never reported anyone, as I was reported wrongly back in 2008. I had my DLA taken off me including my car, the stress waiting for a court date as they were actually going to try and press criminal charges against me made my disabilities became 1000% worse I went from being able to work 12 hours a week, to being housebound and if I did go out never on my own had to use a wheelchair, I put on 5 stone as I was no longer moving about even a little bit.

My solicitor had a specialist from Kings hospital London visit me(paid by legal aid, so the government paying for my defence against the government!!!) the report said I was disabled as I had always said I was and not committing benefit fraud, they dropped the criminal case but they wouldn’t reinstate my DLA as they said I wasn’t disabled enough and I had to report every change I had in my health even though I said I could have changes 3/4 times a day!! I went to a tribunal and I tipped the 20 or so tablets I took daily just to function on the table, was in a wheelchair, had my hands in supports and they treated it like that’s normal for a 33 year old.

I will never attempt to claim PIP even though I have more issues and health problems than I did in 2008. And need care 24 hours a day.

The person who reported me didn’t know all the facts and just did it without any reason. It made me very depressed and a burden or my husband and kids and I felt like committing suicide at times.

It was 17 years ago now but still affects me now and I still have the overpayment that needs paying. I no longer work as was in hospital earlier this year and could have died, I get ESA but refuse to claim PIP, I’m not putting myself through all the stress they will send my way.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/08/2025 03:29

Fragmentedbrain · 17/08/2025 21:59

The person I'm thinking of is in receipt of a household income of about 100k. That's not the only issue but it confused me - is it feasible the claimant could hide salary? (I assume not and that at a bare minimum the NI number should allow for an immediate eligibility check)

Oh dear OP, it seems they're pulling your leg.🙈