To be sick of the royal propaganda the UK is fed?

[Ukisgaslit]

I know most people don’t give a damn about the Windsors any more .

However , in a week when we learn about Philip’s affairs - notably with Sarah Ferguson’s mother ( all covered up of course like the rest of their debachery) we are now expected to swallow the line that William and Kate’s next mansion is ‘paid for by William and Kate themselves ‘

No . That’s not the complete truth .Every penny the Windsors have , they have taken from the people . We now know William and Charles make millions from public services like the NHS schools and charities . We only know about this as a result of dogged journalistic digging . And most of the mainstream media barely covered the scandal .

There are many threads here about how the UK is in steep decline and how people are suffering . Yet the royals are taking in half a billion a year and charging charities on top !

At least admit to us that all their money is stolen from us ?

Oh and if you haven’t heard the queen knew all about Andrew pocketing money via ‘pitch at the palace’

She was told repeatedly by officials . She did nothing
Can we have some facts please ?
The Windsors are a total facade - they are all like Andrew - he’s just the latest fall guy .

Also it's really weird that William and Catherine names the kids after a pedophile in the family.

This is also other high pediphiles closely linked to that family: Epstein, Seville, Andrew himself for a start.

This remembers it a friend of Kate who wanted to kill immigrants. It's quite disturbing.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8232340/Kate-Middletons-friend-questioned-over-racist-gun-threat.html

She also organized sex parties as a job. We all know who this families ally with. Criminals, pediphiles and sexual deviants (wouldn't be specialised if she works in honey pots like you know who). And it's a sure how some royalists treat this lazy princess who vacationed 6 times this year as an scion of anything, it's to retrocessive and offensive for every working woman who doesn't live from tax payes.

Thankfully the newer generations are woke instead of enabling racism and crimes, I hope this system is soon at least, reworked, as the fact of it exists is beyond any sane comprehension.

I really believe many are bots. People who worked there basically admitted that many comments are bots or the proper staff

I commented on that a while back, and people argued that Charles made William. But if Charles can't admit the (probable) truth about his 'honorary grandpapa', surely William could have had the backbone put his foot down?? And Kate??

William never knew the damn man in the first place, and he's not even a distant relation of Kate's. Why did they saddle their poor son with the name of a probable paedophile? Couldn't it have been the middle name if they had to put it in?

I highly doubt William and Kate were unaware. They have entire teams of staff to advise them on the associations tied to certain names, just like when Diana considered naming William “John,” and the Queen objected because it was seen as unlucky.
This feels like nothing more than excuses and enabling from older generations trying to defend a criminal family. What’s truly disturbing is the reality that they can rape or could even kill someone and still face no consequences thanks to diplomatic protections. And time and again, their crimes are exposed followed by lame uncoverings. What shocks me most is how the UK public tolerates such corruption and disgrace. People deserve better than this.

Indeed. This is a family in which W&K's childrens' school friends are vetted before they are allowed to visit them. There is no way they weren't aware of the implications of naming their child after that man.

I think the RF are deeply corrupt as shown by the many distasteful people they associate with. They have no choice but to support Andrew despite his disgrace, because they probably see him as just being unlucky as the family member who was found out.

We should be striving for a meritocracy where honours are bestowed on those who make a genuine contribution to the bettering of society. How many of us really think that is how they are bestowed now?

It really would be nice if the very rich were to be proud of being able to make a bigger contribution to the country through paying extra tax, recognising that they too benefit in the long run through an improved social infrastructure - a few of them already think like this. However they are faced with the example of a RF who don't pay tax (as well as fleecing charities and public institutions on the sly). So, tax avoidance is the order of the day.

Yes it is very disappointing that the younger royals don't seem to see the absurdity of it - but then again, they have seen what happened to Harry & Meghan when they stepped away, and the extreme vilification they got and are still getting. As a matter of fact I think W & K's children look really unhappy, at least when they are in public - how happy are they at being regularly paraded as they are? I don't know for sure if that is true - but the fact is that regardless of their personal feelings it would be very very different for them to step away. They know what is in store for them if they do, and could expect no support from their family.

The future of Prince George in particular is mapped out for him, he can't make decisions about his future that the rest of us take for granted our own children can make and he knows what the consequences would be for him if he renounced it. Maybe he is content with this, or maybe he is sad; if the latter, my God what a nightmare for him.

And it is monarchists who sanction and applaud this kind of cruelty.

@Futurehappiness

Yes good point re the bad example the Windsors represent!
Does anyone actually ‘look up’ to them?

Yes I know that the rich can use tax avoidance schemes which can be legal but they are still subject to the law and can and are often having to argue their case in court and may end up with fines
If they want keep as much of their wealth as possible they must put it in trusts but these trusts are subject to regular tax / fees so they do pay to some extent .

What the Windsors are doing is closer to evasion - but it’s not illegal because …. just because they say so

Why aren’t the Windsors handing over millions to help the people of the UK - there’s talk of another IMF bail out being needed and we can all see what’s happening to our standard of living .
Haven’t they hoarded enough?

Silly of me to even think that . We know the Windsors are hard faced enough to charge charities ,schools , NHS despite benefiting from generous gifts from the taxpayer and little or no tax .I suppose generosity is for the ‘commoners’

Why did they saddle their poor son with the name of a probable paedophile? Couldn't it have been the middle name if they had to put it in?

As a matter of interest it's one of George's middle names 🤔

We know the Windsors are hard faced enough to charge charities ,schools , NHS despite benefiting from generous gifts from the taxpayer and little or no tax

I'm quite surprised there's been no royalist popping along to point out that the poor things are simply forced to charge commercial rents even while insisting their anomalous duchies are private.

No answer as to why they don't hand it all back other than we don't know if they do but given W had his generous waivers of a total £10k a year trumpeted recently I think it's quite likely they'd find a way to let us know if they did.

Whilst abuse can never ever be tolerated, there are many individuals who have files on them because they were homosexual, even after decriminalisation. Because it wasn’t acceptable in society, the secrecy meant that security risk was the justification, could be susceptible to bribery etc. No idea if this was the case. There’s also huge numbers of men that have been linked by association to certain children’s homes and whilst to a certain extent I do subscribe to the no smoke without fire philosophy, I do also think that men of that era who were gay would have moved in the same circles for protection, but most will have been engaging in paediphilia. I know someone who was convicted of historical sex crimes but doesn’t mean others they know even knew about it

Poor George. At least he didn't get it as a first name..

Totally agree, I am 'older' too and have never been a royalist.
I don't see the point of them at all.
And the notion that they are a big tourist draw is just part of the PR spin. France gets more tourist revenue than we do -- despite the fact that they dealt decisively with their Royal Family problem some 200 years ago.
So even if they only cost us tuppence ha'penny each, or whatever it is, they are still essentially irrelevant and pointless.

I think they are used mostly to hold white supremacy ideals and distraction from real politics.

I can never excuse the fact that Buckingham Palace issued a statement that the allegations from Virginia Giuffre about Andrew were 'false and without any foundation'. Think about that: the representatives of our Head of State openly called a sex trafficking victim a liar. I am just amazed that anyone still defends this family.

I know, it's absolutely unbelievable. But the Royalists just don't want to believe that this archaic institution is capable of such things.

Apparently the frocks the bling and the 'soft power' (whatever tf that means) are what we should be focusing on.

I see a kitten over there...

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The frocks have been rubbish for years now. So there isn't even that.

Everything about them is rubbish. They all need to bugger off and stop living off the tax payer. Or pay for their own existence. The end.

I’m with you OP, what irks me the most is the portrayal of William and Kate as “normal” becuase their staff don’t live in and they take their kids to school. FFS, they don’t go back after their school run, pay the bills, clean the kitchen, do the laundry, take the cat to the vet and try and balance all of that with a 9-5 job they hate do they?

I had forgotten about this !

No doubt royalists will say - the queen believed him and didn’t know better .

Why make any statement at all in that case ?

See my AIBU re propaganda because the Windsors are used to throwing out any old rubbish to try cover up their crimes in the knowledge that
a. royalists will swallow said rubbish happily
b. friendly media will keep cleaning up / distracting the gullible with other stories / shiny things

We know from Andrew Lownies book that the queen was kept informed of Andrew’s activities . Yet a statement was issued stating that a young woman’s claims were false . The woman who was later given millions to go away. The woman who is now sadly , deceased.

I mentioned in a post above that the least the Windsors could do is to return some of the millions they have taken to the struggling people of the UK. So can William and Charles now double Harry’s donation to children in need . And no not from so called royal foundations - no strings attached cash donations.
We are owed that and a great deal more .

But it's sooooooo demanding and utterly exhausting attending all those football and tennis matches, and let's not forget the polo....oh and all the holidays really are quite stressful don't you know?? 🤣

I’m disappointed that the younger Royals don’t see what a ridiculous institution the Royal family is and that they don’t seem interesting in modernizing it.
They know what side their bread's buttered. They know that even being rich aristo's will mean that they will have to find some way or another to pay for their own stately home, and they will no longer be invited to important events that they have no expertise or qualification for. They will have to do something else apart from getting handouts from the King. They will cling to the Monarchy for as long as humanly possible. It doesn't matter how unhappy the Wales kids look. They could have a Monarchy but let the younger two free but they don't want to even do that. They talk the talk about the burden of the Crown (even Harry still believes that load of bull) but in reality they have the key to the gilded cage, they don't want to set themselves free to live on their own wits, because they have made themselves unintelligent and crushingly inept.

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