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To not understand the JD Vance weird face meme all over the Cotswolds?

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BlueJuniper94 · 15/08/2025 11:45

So I understand he is not popular and has recently been holidaying in the Cotswolds. But I don't understand this big exaggerated AI face some group has been putting on billboards and driving around.

Firstly, are they mocking his appearance? That's not very nice, no matter what someone's politics are, their actions should be the target not what they look like.

And if it is about his remarks about free speech - again, I really don't understand how this image "owns" him, he's a foreign politician. UK gov aren't going to care about that, wouldn't it make sense to prove the point by criticising power that is actually British?

Fill me in please, I don't understand - what am I missing?

OP posts:
StandFirm · 16/08/2025 09:26

Createausername1970 · 16/08/2025 07:52

Indeed I have/had a a few relatives in the US. One family relocated back to UK about 18 months ago, they said the writing was on the wall if you looked closely.

Another family are reviewing their options. She married an American and took American citizenship after the children were born. The children are dual nationality but always travelled under an American passport. They have recently got British Passports for the children. They work in the education sector at one of the larger universities and they have said that things are very different to 12 months ago, the US government is slowly implementing Project 25 despite Trump denying it, and one of the big Universities is likely to be the scapegoat to bring all the others in line.

To me, sitting here in the UK it sounds very far-fetched and over-dramatic. But these are level headed people so I am not sure what to think.

It's sadly not far fetched but the pernicious workings of an emerging tyranny is that the powers that be know exactly what the agenda is whereas the rest of the populace has no time to adjust because it's mentally almost impossible to face the extent of the threat. That's how it's always worked.
And most if not all dictators start off by being popular with the majority. What defines a dictatorship is not whether or not the leader is or was popular at the point of reaching power. It's how the power is used to consolidate authority into the hands of one man or faction.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/08/2025 10:17

whyschoolwhy · 16/08/2025 08:07

Also all this clamping down on what museums and schools etc can and can't say about American history and societal matters doesn't sound very freedom of speechy. Not to mention the 'jokey' threats about getting rid of American citizens who don't agree with the Trump way of thinking.

I agree. A Texas school district pulled the Diary of Anne Frank out of all its schools and libraries.

People like JD Vance complain that there is no freedom of speech in the UK because, unlike in the USA, anti-abortion campaigners are not allowed to harass women entering clinics that provide abortion services. Apparently, abortion is murder but JD Vance and his fellow Republicans are completely unbothered by the fact that in the US, an average of 355 children die each year from unintentional shootings involving firearms owned by parents or family members.

They bang on about law and order but Trump has pardoned all the January 6th rioters.

They are deeply hypocritical. JD Vance is a conservative Christian who despises women without children referring to them as 'Childless Cat Ladies yet supports an adjudicated sex offender.

Casperroonie · 16/08/2025 11:50

HelenaWaiting · 15/08/2025 12:16

That's OK, sweetie. We're happy for you to stay away.

That includes our social media too. Stick to American pages, ok?

Boromirsgreyhound · 16/08/2025 12:03

Really? Do share your knowledge and experience.
FFS.

whyschoolwhy · 16/08/2025 14:06

@1dayatatime JD Vance has made it quite clear what he thinks of the US.

What have tourists in Cornwall got to do with it?

Thisisit11 · 16/08/2025 14:13

You've fallen for propaganda, sorry.

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 16/08/2025 14:32

Probably bc he hates it? Like the Trump baby balloon, it wasn't particularly funny in itself but the fact that it made him so mad made it funny and made people want to keep doing it. I approve, vance is a cunt.

1dayatatime · 16/08/2025 14:59

@whyschoolwhy

"@1dayatatime JD Vance has made it quite clear what he thinks of the US.
What have tourists in Cornwall got to do with it?"

in which case please provide the quote from Vance regarding the UK.

I presume you mean:

Vance said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".

Vance clarified that
" he did not "even mention the UK or France", adding that both had "fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond".

Further more given Vance's military service in the USMC and deployment to Iraq then it would be inconceivable for him to be unaware of British military involvement in Iraq.

it is clearly desperate people putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.

As for the Cornwall reference, there are posters complaining about Vance as a legitimate US tourist being in the Cotswolds and disrupting traffic to the Daylesford Farm Shop. Whereas the disruption, traffic jams and rude behaviour of English tourists in Cornwall far surpasses anything inflicted by Vance on the Cotswolds.

You may not like Vance's politics but he is perfectly welcome to come to the Cotswolds as a tourist and not be harassed by a rent a mob protesters also coming in from outside the Cotswolds.

whyschoolwhy · 16/08/2025 16:03

1dayatatime · 16/08/2025 14:59

@whyschoolwhy

"@1dayatatime JD Vance has made it quite clear what he thinks of the US.
What have tourists in Cornwall got to do with it?"

in which case please provide the quote from Vance regarding the UK.

I presume you mean:

Vance said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".

Vance clarified that
" he did not "even mention the UK or France", adding that both had "fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond".

Further more given Vance's military service in the USMC and deployment to Iraq then it would be inconceivable for him to be unaware of British military involvement in Iraq.

it is clearly desperate people putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.

As for the Cornwall reference, there are posters complaining about Vance as a legitimate US tourist being in the Cotswolds and disrupting traffic to the Daylesford Farm Shop. Whereas the disruption, traffic jams and rude behaviour of English tourists in Cornwall far surpasses anything inflicted by Vance on the Cotswolds.

You may not like Vance's politics but he is perfectly welcome to come to the Cotswolds as a tourist and not be harassed by a rent a mob protesters also coming in from outside the Cotswolds.

I was also referring to his comments about us being an 'Islamist state', and criticising our 'lack of free speech'.

Your comparison of the havoc this one man has caused in the Cotswolds compared to hundreds or thousands of tourists in Cornwall is a stretch at best. You're comparing apples with oranges.

CharmingDryad · 16/08/2025 17:19

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 15/08/2025 17:05

Well, like I already wrote, he was arrested for walking home in the snow. Or walking home. Or walking. Or breathing. Or something. Who knows?

I’m going to suggest the reason you haven’t heard of it is because videos like this are common in the US, aren’t they?

Here it is…

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/s/whqdMhk7dL

The bit I don’t get though is that he’s black. I mean, I understand the US police arresting someone for walking home, which is a well known crime after all, but arresting a black man? Who’d a thunk it, eh?

This is not a news source.

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2025 22:27

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 09:22

But because ICE is subjected to extremely unrealistic targets, they won't bother even asking themselves what your actual status might be. So you're screwed if they get you.

They've also stopped bothering with the actual criminal immigrants (the sort it takes time and money to track down and who might get violent when caught) in favour of soft targets.

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2025 22:30

thepariscrimefiles · 16/08/2025 10:17

I agree. A Texas school district pulled the Diary of Anne Frank out of all its schools and libraries.

People like JD Vance complain that there is no freedom of speech in the UK because, unlike in the USA, anti-abortion campaigners are not allowed to harass women entering clinics that provide abortion services. Apparently, abortion is murder but JD Vance and his fellow Republicans are completely unbothered by the fact that in the US, an average of 355 children die each year from unintentional shootings involving firearms owned by parents or family members.

They bang on about law and order but Trump has pardoned all the January 6th rioters.

They are deeply hypocritical. JD Vance is a conservative Christian who despises women without children referring to them as 'Childless Cat Ladies yet supports an adjudicated sex offender.

Remember that school textbooks in Texas are controlled centrally (so much for "small government"). A committee made up of religious nutjobs approves the "Texas edition" textbooks which teach creationism as fact and have a rather dubious version of history (apparently the US fought alone on D-Day, had no help at all from the British or Canadians)

Panterusblackish · 16/08/2025 22:41

BlueJuniper94 · 15/08/2025 11:45

So I understand he is not popular and has recently been holidaying in the Cotswolds. But I don't understand this big exaggerated AI face some group has been putting on billboards and driving around.

Firstly, are they mocking his appearance? That's not very nice, no matter what someone's politics are, their actions should be the target not what they look like.

And if it is about his remarks about free speech - again, I really don't understand how this image "owns" him, he's a foreign politician. UK gov aren't going to care about that, wouldn't it make sense to prove the point by criticising power that is actually British?

Fill me in please, I don't understand - what am I missing?

What you are missing is that James had it coming.

Horserider5678 · 17/08/2025 05:03

CharmingDryad · 15/08/2025 12:14

You really don’t have free speech in the UK though. It’s shocking to us Americans.

Hah! You’ve been sucked in by the Trump and Vance rhetoric! We have far more free speech here in the UK than you do in the US! We’re a far safer county to live in than the US! We don’t have an idiotic president who set trade tariffs with penguins, want to make Canada the 51st state, thinks he can buy Greenland but most importantly cannot string a coherent sentence together! I could go on but what’s the point?

Horserider5678 · 17/08/2025 05:05

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2025 22:30

Remember that school textbooks in Texas are controlled centrally (so much for "small government"). A committee made up of religious nutjobs approves the "Texas edition" textbooks which teach creationism as fact and have a rather dubious version of history (apparently the US fought alone on D-Day, had no help at all from the British or Canadians)

Don’t you mean they think they single handily win WW2!

yeahwhatev · 17/08/2025 05:28

Rallentanda · 15/08/2025 11:59

It's a protest. The image is unpleasant but someone having it on their phone and being disallowed entry into the US is extremely authoritarian. For the VP of the US to say we don't have free speech: well, we do, mostly (unless you want to criticise the Israeli state but that's a different matter) and they are heading towards not having it - so people are protesting.

He is an awful, awful man btw. It goes far beyond 'not popular'.

“we do, mostly (unless you want to criticise the Israeli state but that's a different matter)”

Why is that a different matter?

Samsung37 · 17/08/2025 06:25

It isn’t very nice to mock his appearance?! Oh, boo hoo!! This man is vile. He’s systematically dismantling women’s rights in the US and taking vital services from the most needy to give to the rich. Oh, and he hates our country and openly criticised us every chance he gets. He should stay the fck in the US. A meme on a billboard is the least humiliation he should experience. Do you read the news OP? Do you know what this man is like??

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 17/08/2025 18:16

Horserider5678 · 17/08/2025 05:03

Hah! You’ve been sucked in by the Trump and Vance rhetoric! We have far more free speech here in the UK than you do in the US! We’re a far safer county to live in than the US! We don’t have an idiotic president who set trade tariffs with penguins, want to make Canada the 51st state, thinks he can buy Greenland but most importantly cannot string a coherent sentence together! I could go on but what’s the point?

American here and I fully agree with this.

JHound · 17/08/2025 18:17

Firstly, are they mocking his appearance? That's not very nice, no matter what someone's politics are, their actions should be the target not what they look like.

If Vance can refer to “childless single cat ladies”
he can have his appearance mocked.

They are meeting him where he is at.

Enrichetta · 17/08/2025 18:23

yeahwhatev · 17/08/2025 05:28

“we do, mostly (unless you want to criticise the Israeli state but that's a different matter)”

Why is that a different matter?

I can’t speak for @Rallentanda but the banning of Palestine Action comes to mind.

JHound · 17/08/2025 18:24

1dayatatime · 16/08/2025 14:59

@whyschoolwhy

"@1dayatatime JD Vance has made it quite clear what he thinks of the US.
What have tourists in Cornwall got to do with it?"

in which case please provide the quote from Vance regarding the UK.

I presume you mean:

Vance said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".

Vance clarified that
" he did not "even mention the UK or France", adding that both had "fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond".

Further more given Vance's military service in the USMC and deployment to Iraq then it would be inconceivable for him to be unaware of British military involvement in Iraq.

it is clearly desperate people putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.

As for the Cornwall reference, there are posters complaining about Vance as a legitimate US tourist being in the Cotswolds and disrupting traffic to the Daylesford Farm Shop. Whereas the disruption, traffic jams and rude behaviour of English tourists in Cornwall far surpasses anything inflicted by Vance on the Cotswolds.

You may not like Vance's politics but he is perfectly welcome to come to the Cotswolds as a tourist and not be harassed by a rent a mob protesters also coming in from outside the Cotswolds.

JD Vance was clearly talking about the UK and France when you look at the context within which he said those words:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx7w7q7qzro.amp

UK opposition politicians accused JD Vance of disrespecting British forces after he said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".
The UK and France have said they would be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine as part of a peace deal.

Vance has since insisted he did not "even mention the UK or France", adding that both had "fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond".

However, he did not specify which country or countries he was referring to.
In a post on social media, Vance added: "But let's be direct: there are many countries who are volunteering (privately or publicly) support who have neither the battlefield experience nor the military equipment to do anything meaningful."
So far only the UK and France have publicly committed troops towards policing any potential peace deal in Ukraine, although Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has previously said a "number of countries" have agreed to.

He only walked it back because the backlash highlighted his ignorance.

JD Vance giving a speech

Anger over JD Vance 'random country' peacekeeping remark - BBC News

The US vice-president faces criticism after saying troops from "some random country" will not deter Russia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx7w7q7qzro.amp

TankFlyBossW4lk · 17/08/2025 18:32

CharmingDryad · 15/08/2025 12:14

You really don’t have free speech in the UK though. It’s shocking to us Americans.

That's hilarious. So funny. People are being stopped from coming into your country if they are deemed to be anti Trump. Washington DC has the National guard patrolling the streets. Your citizens are being pulled off the streets and imprisoned. You have such a cheek to say we don't have free speech. Obviously. straight out of your right wing playbook.

Milliejacksonhouseforsale · 17/08/2025 21:30

Vance has left Scotland and the UK is a bit cleaner in an instant 😁😁👍

AmIthatSpringy · 18/08/2025 11:40

The way he treated President Zelenskyy, a man who has more integrity in his little
finger than eyeliner Vance and shitey pants trump together, means he deserves to be ridiculed for the small, vile creature that he is

Serpentstooth · 18/08/2025 14:18

Hear, hear, well said 👏 👏 👏

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