Thread 15: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer's original exposé: The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

The 14 Observer items currently available on their online 'The real Salt Path' page: The real Salt Path | The Observer

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‘Hope is extinguished’: CBD patients respond to Salt Path...

The real Salt Path | The Observer (The Slow Newscast)

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The Observer YouTube Channel: The Observer UK - YouTube

Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement: Raynor Winn

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Keep to the path. No saltiness. May the fudge be with you.

Found some screenshots, but there’s 22 of them!!!. Will try and post them bit by bit- hopefully in the right order- can’t guarantee it😅

Or that there never were any printed copies which looked professional enough for a bookshop to stock. I feel sure that they would have been print-on-demand ; I'd love to see one, if only to see if it looked like a kitchen table job!!

I don’t understand how he couldn’t see inconsistencies. Trig planking versus constant leg dragging, etc. He was a bit bemused as to how he did it & this just increased his respect.

Bit busy just now, more to come soon

One of the most disappointing things for me was to find out that JI is a luvvie.

In one interview SW says " I followed Moth's footsteps in the dust". Oh PULEEZ how old are you, 12?

I'm sure I must have seen him in other things but really only knew JI as Lucius Malfoy. It was quite strange to see the luvvieness in the interviews! Shows they can act I suppose. My DM met Patrick Stewart many times and he is very pleasant apparently but King Luvvie when compared to Jean-Luc Picard.

I only knew JI as the gritty completely non luvvie Jackson Brodie!

I can't keep up with you all, I returned to the thread only to find you have whizzed off with @Vroomfondleswaistcoat (who I imagine driving the charabanc) leaving just a faint whiff of fudge.

I'm still wondering where Dave and Julie are? ages ago @Tealeaf3 pointed out that they were not surprised that no family or friends had spoken against them, but more unusual, no family or friends have been publicly supportive.

It would be so interesting if someone could get hold of the lottery book, if a physical copy doesn't exist, does it mean it would not be considered published? for the terms of the award received.

Do we know where Dave and Julie are meant to live? Somewhere Up North and west like Cumbria or the Lake District? I wonder if they make a cameo appearance in OWT as they have appeared in the previous three books.

Do they exist? really early on in these threads someone mentioned another writer who created a male persona and had a relative pretend to be them at book events. I did have a Google of plasterers called Dave Walker :)

@Catwith69lives

You may be able to determine the exact location - by his accent!

They do appear in insta photos.

They are in one photo that I have seen, but they are both wearing sunglasses.

Not that it makes much difference when we have no idea who they are anyway I suppose, but Raymoth are not in shades.

Presumably they could be anyone who agreed to ‘be’ Dave & Julie.

I heard Dame Harriet Walter on the radio yesterday discussing Shakespeare. I hadn't realised what a luvvie she is. I had always thought her down to earth but I suppose that's a mark of how good she is as an actress.

If it's not all completely made up, I'm guessing M62 corridor, me. Maybe West Yorkshire or East Lancashire, like. He's not coded as Geordie, Yorkshire, Scouse or Mancunian, just as "northern" and "from up north". Will defer to any official Grim Up North Correspondent, I'm just a midlander, me.

At least, neither you nor Dave, are saddled with what Sal calls "a clotted cream accent" - excuse me spitting jam and cream (in no particular order)

Though Julie doesn't have the Northern Speech Tics. Proper weird, that [NB: having lived in W Yorks, that is an example of the kind of sentence construction I would expect someone who talks like Dave in TSP to use, but of course he doesn't because he is only allowed one Northern Speech Tic per book]. Maybe making Julie talk northern as well would make the dialogue too annoying, like.

It was print on demand. The website took you to a third party book printing site for ordering the hard copy.

Ouch!! Where does she say that? (For the record I love a Devonian or Cornish accent, me).

Dave says at one point "going t'other way'. Isn't that Yorkshire?

Does someone have a copy of LL? They are mentioned quite a bit there and meet up to do the Pennine Way. Somehow South Yorkshire has stuck in my mind as a possible Dave’n’Julie habitat.

I wonder what story Raymoth are weaving for their family and friends, I can't remember who said that Salray might have told them Martin Hemmings wanted her to have the money, or she was an innocent victim of his bad business skills and she unable to prove her innocent had to pay him money to save herself from criminal conviction.

I suppose I like the idea of Raymoth having to attempt damage limitation by spreading some money around, so that their ill gotten gains are depleted, especially combined with book sales falling and no public appearances to boost funds. They might be able to buy people's silence, not so easy to pay people to speak up for them.

What accent is Julie supposed to have?