Uk is in big trouble - what do you think will happen?

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Thames water on brink of collapse. All those CEOs getting fat bonuses. Water shortages and rising bills.

the cost of living is off the chart. Every bill has gone up. Pop in to Tesco for toothpaste, butter and chicken and it costs an insane amount for just a few items.

the government are crap and taxing the hell out of us.

my salary is stuck. I feel constantly poor now. 10 years ago when I earned significantly less, I felt ok money wise. Chatted today to a colleague about science graduate son who is stuck doing a minimum wage job as there are no jobs here. I’ve noticed this myself in my town. The council have a few, other companies outsourced to India years ago, the pharma company moved out years ago and the land will soon be a new housing estate.

the nhs is a total mess.

housing costs make me want to weep! No chance of moving. Feel bad for my kids. They just keep building expensive houses here all packed into poorly designed estates. Tiny gardens. But no infrastructure. The promised schools get cancelled and drs surgeries and hospitals are rammed with patients. My mortgage of course is up.

in my industry… everyone is obsessed with AI and I’m sad to say it has taken some jobs already. There is a huge push towards AI.

there seems to be underlying tension here re migrants. People getting increasingly annoyed.

this country feels like a right mess. Making rich people richer and poor people even poorer. The middle earners are getting squeezed. I hate it.

i don’t remember it being this bad ever before.

why is it so terrible? And what do you think will happen?

Marvellous. I would because I don’t bow down to people (?) spouting bollocks and trying to stir up trouble.

I’m not sure why you’d say this but maybe you don’t mind what happens.

Oh FFS give it up. You were wrong.

Labour haven't made everything worse. You have a very short memory.

Interesting that you ignore the rest of that post and focus on my bad behaviour,

Recollections may vary.

Evidently.

OMG! Another injection of common sense.
How very dare you?
Surprised you’ve not been reported too.

Are you mixing up posters? Wrong about what?

You were responding to a post which referred to housing.

You wrote "facts matter" in your post responding to my post, and I responded by asking (amended to remove reference to housing) "You are saying that in the UK there is a mix of illegal immigrants and people who have come over and have claimed asylum and are waiting to be assessed and may or not eventually be granted asylum - is that right?" - so, do you agree with my explanation of the "facts" here?

I then went on to say "If so, just to explain to you that the issue which is raised by others here is that such numbers coming in are too many for the UK to cope with. Many existing residents of the UK cannot afford to live and there aren't adequate services to meet their needs and the situation is not being managed and there is risk - if some of the people are brought in by traffickers, there is inevitable risk. What do you think?" and your response was there is no issue, it doesn't matter how many people come into the country illegally or legally, the fact that the social net does not exist adequately for existing residents is completely irrelevant, we as a country can accommodate whomever comes in and there are no problems at all. Do I have that right?

To answer your question about traffickers - traffickers is a term used to describe people who are acting outside the law and one of the things they do is bring people from outside the UK into the UK but not by legal channels - are you aware of that? Are you saying there is no issue with traffickers, no risk, and the UK should do nothing to stop traffickers?

You have asked for names of towns - I said that people I knew around the country had told me of places near them - so, this was real people who are generally reliable, mentioning places nearby them, in conversation. I don't have a spreadsheet with names but since you seem to know all about the facts (as you said they mattered) perhaps you could source some information via your channels and come back and share.

I see a doctor's strike and less appointments created than under Sunak in the same period.
I see the breakfast club disaster, schools opting out and begging for sponsors in return for promotion. Company logos on school jumpers in return for a few cornflakes anyone?
I see an obsequious, buffering Starmer begging Trump for crumbs and making himself look like a fool on the world stage.
I see Starmer being shafted by the EU and in turn shafting our fishing industry. They saw him coming.
I see employment rights leading to even higher unemployment.
I see very low numbers of houses actually being built, on par with covid years.
I see a government who refused an inquiry into grooming gangs, and a PM who doesnt know what a woman is. Also a Foreign Sec who thinks you can grow a cervix and calls me a rights hoarding dinosaur.

I think that answers all your so-called plus points.

I’ve paid in enough to justify it. I won’t consider it socialist values, I’ll consider it pay back.

I’ve been on Mumsnet for years. Mumsnet can verify this. If you want to accuse me of being a Russian troll or whatever else it is your implying purely because I don’t happen to share the same political views as you do, then go ahead.

Same here. This is what you get when you have a different opinion to people like this

Aren’t threats considered personal attacks any more?

I think they just want to be in an echo chamber to be honest. Implying someone isn’t a genuine poster just because they hold a different opinion is pathetic. I feel embarrassed for them.

Oh damn straight on this.
So many vets have gone the private equity route.

Yep it’s pointless given where Labour are with the public, I think some are used to mn being for Labour.

How do you lower house prices though? They’re driven by supply / demand ? I guess an interest rate hike might trigger a collapse BUT more likely stagnation cos ppl just won’t move unless they have to.

Every time Reform produce a "policy" their support drops a little bit.

Gotta love people who talk about Labour attacking the disabled and then say how theyre going to vote Reform. How long do they think PIP survives under a Thatcherite like Farage?

I see a doctor's strike and less appointments created than under Sunak in the same period.

I see the doctors’ strike settled when Sunak refused to engage with them. I also see more than two million more appointments delivered than in the same period the previous year.

• 31.3 million:
• The number of operations, appointments, and tests between July and November 2024 was 31.3 million.
• 29.1 million:
• The number of operations, appointments, and tests between July and November 2023 was 29.1 million

I see an obsequious, buffering Starmer begging Trump for crumbs and making himself look like a fool on the world stage.

I see an adept politician in his international role who even the opposition praised. Cleverly said “Starmer has done the right thing today. We will need to go further, and bring other countries with us, but he has put the UK into a genuine position of leadership in support of #Ukraine. I’ll criticise when he gets things wrong, but today he’s done the right thing.”

There are a lot of these problems in other countries, or worse! It seems bleak but try and be grateful you were born in the UK and not somewhere else.

Hmm.

You demanded evidence from me to back up my claims. And you are demanding evidence now from other posters.

But when asked, you decline to provide evidence to back up your claims.