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Uk is in big trouble - what do you think will happen?

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hippysun · 13/08/2025 10:03

Thames water on brink of collapse. All those CEOs getting fat bonuses. Water shortages and rising bills.

the cost of living is off the chart. Every bill has gone up. Pop in to Tesco for toothpaste, butter and chicken and it costs an insane amount for just a few items.

the government are crap and taxing the hell out of us.

my salary is stuck. I feel constantly poor now. 10 years ago when I earned significantly less, I felt ok money wise. Chatted today to a colleague about science graduate son who is stuck doing a minimum wage job as there are no jobs here. I’ve noticed this myself in my town. The council have a few, other companies outsourced to India years ago, the pharma company moved out years ago and the land will soon be a new housing estate.

the nhs is a total mess.

housing costs make me want to weep! No chance of moving. Feel bad for my kids. They just keep building expensive houses here all packed into poorly designed estates. Tiny gardens. But no infrastructure. The promised schools get cancelled and drs surgeries and hospitals are rammed with patients. My mortgage of course is up.

in my industry… everyone is obsessed with AI and I’m sad to say it has taken some jobs already. There is a huge push towards AI.

there seems to be underlying tension here re migrants. People getting increasingly annoyed.

this country feels like a right mess. Making rich people richer and poor people even poorer. The middle earners are getting squeezed. I hate it.

i don’t remember it being this bad ever before.

why is it so terrible? And what do you think will happen?

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EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 21:31

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 21:29

I didn't expect Labour to have magically transformed the country in a year. There was a petition to call a general election a few months after Labour were elected and Labour have hardly made everything a lot worse.

Some people are very childlike and expect complex issues to be immediately resolved.

Surely childlike is pledging various sound bites and then failing in a way people can clearly see. Or inexperienced and incompetent perhaps.

Horsie · 13/08/2025 21:33

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/08/2025 11:12

OK then.

I've never heard of what you said (can't see it in an edit). Estimated Time of Arrival would have been somewhat out of context.

Edited

I've never heard of the Euskardi-whatsit either.

MumOfManyAliases · 13/08/2025 21:36

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:20

Nice. Another name to add to your collection.

Yep. Funny how they always resort to name calling isn’t it?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 21:36

areyouthepredator · 13/08/2025 21:29

You are saying that technically illegal immigrants are not being housed, and that in terms of facts in the country there is a mix of illegal immigrants (not being housed officially) and people who have come over and have claimed asylum and are waiting to be assessed and may or not eventually be granted asylum - is that right?

If so, just to explain to you that the issue which is raised by others here is that such numbers coming in are too many for the UK to cope with. Many existing residents of the UK cannot afford to live and there aren't adequate services to meet their needs and the situation is not being managed and there is risk - if some of the people are brought in by traffickers, there is inevitable risk. What do you think?

I didn't say anything about housing.

Illegal immigrants are those who have overstayed their visas or are failed asylum seekers. Illegal immigrants have no right to be housed.

Asylum seekers coming on small boats represent a tiny percent of immigrants and are not a strain on resources. I'm not sure why you're blaming them for people who aren't being paid enough to live; they're not responsible for low wages or the cost of housing.

I'm not sure what your point is about traffickers. Which towns in the UK are no go areas?

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:38

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 21:29

I didn't expect Labour to have magically transformed the country in a year. There was a petition to call a general election a few months after Labour were elected and Labour have hardly made everything a lot worse.

Some people are very childlike and expect complex issues to be immediately resolved.

Oh my. Do you truly believe that? In the same breath you accuse others of lacking intelligence and being childlike. Astonishing lack of self awareness you have going on there.

Labour have totally shafted huge swathes of the electorate. They lie as often as they breathe. They have taken an improving but fragile economy and thrown a grenade at it. They left disabled people frightened and desperate, screwed over our children, farmers, fishermen, SMEs, I could go on. Starmer is an embarrassment, as is his Chancellor. But you carry on defending them.

twistyizzy · 13/08/2025 21:38

MumOfManyAliases · 13/08/2025 21:36

Yep. Funny how they always resort to name calling isn’t it?

Because that's their true nature and belief about anyone who dares to crticise Labour. They will defend Labour to the absolute end. Can't be reasoned with. The last resort is always, without fail, name calling.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 21:39

Julen7 · 13/08/2025 21:31

I think the question was - did you expect Labour to make everything worse?

Edited

I answered the question.

areyouthepredator · 13/08/2025 21:40

PandoraSocks · 13/08/2025 17:19

I have never interacted with you before two minutes ago, but I seem to have upset you. I am not sure there is much mileage in this exchange.

Team Plaid Cymru at the moment.

I have no idea why you think you upset me - you made a claim and I asked you to evidence it. If your response to that is "no mileage" I assume that you can't evidence your claim - ie you were imagining what you were saying about Farage's effective use of social media. Which is disappointing as it was quite a strongly made assertion on your part. If however there is evidence after all then please do share and please don't worry about upsetting me.

Thanks for answering about your team.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:40

Oh, well done, twistyizzy.
You had my perfectly innocuous comment deleted. Good for you. Worried it might strike a chord?

Julen7 · 13/08/2025 21:43

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 21:39

I answered the question.

Not really, just something about a petition for an election in the early days when Labour hadn’t yet done anything - although I would argue they started the damage from day one.

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 21:44

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:40

Oh, well done, twistyizzy.
You had my perfectly innocuous comment deleted. Good for you. Worried it might strike a chord?

It was deleted due to the personal attack. I wouldn’t keep going with it.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:44

(If anyone cares, I said their opinion/comment was dickish. Which it was)

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:45

Julen7 · 13/08/2025 21:43

Not really, just something about a petition for an election in the early days when Labour hadn’t yet done anything - although I would argue they started the damage from day one.

I'd say WFA (mysteriously absent in their manifesto) was the starting gun?

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:45

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 21:44

It was deleted due to the personal attack. I wouldn’t keep going with it.

Ok.

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:46

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:44

(If anyone cares, I said their opinion/comment was dickish. Which it was)

You're not doing yourself any favours here.

Youdontseehow · 13/08/2025 21:48

HRTFT
honestly - we are all fucked.

The end.

Julen7 · 13/08/2025 21:48

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:45

I'd say WFA (mysteriously absent in their manifesto) was the starting gun?

Yes that was pretty early on - July maybe?

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:49

Repeat. Their opinion was dickish. Been here since the beginning. Will that opinion get me banned? Possibly. Don’t give a shit. There are so many dubious posters here these days. Disappointed? Yes, that MNHQ doesn’t do more to flush them/it out.

MumOfManyAliases · 13/08/2025 21:49

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:40

Oh, well done, twistyizzy.
You had my perfectly innocuous comment deleted. Good for you. Worried it might strike a chord?

I reported it because I felt it was a personal attack on the poster you were replying to.

MumOfManyAliases · 13/08/2025 21:50

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:49

Repeat. Their opinion was dickish. Been here since the beginning. Will that opinion get me banned? Possibly. Don’t give a shit. There are so many dubious posters here these days. Disappointed? Yes, that MNHQ doesn’t do more to flush them/it out.

Dubious in what way exactly?

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:51

MumOfManyAliases · 13/08/2025 21:49

I reported it because I felt it was a personal attack on the poster you were replying to.

Good for you. Fair enough.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 21:51

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:38

Oh my. Do you truly believe that? In the same breath you accuse others of lacking intelligence and being childlike. Astonishing lack of self awareness you have going on there.

Labour have totally shafted huge swathes of the electorate. They lie as often as they breathe. They have taken an improving but fragile economy and thrown a grenade at it. They left disabled people frightened and desperate, screwed over our children, farmers, fishermen, SMEs, I could go on. Starmer is an embarrassment, as is his Chancellor. But you carry on defending them.

This is what happens when you read nothing but the right wing press. You don't see changes to improve the NHS, free school meals, negotiation with the US and Europe, improved labour laws, housebuilding, focus on VAWAG and so on.

You conveniently forget 14 years of austerity which included Brexit, millions of food banks, huge rise in child poverty, NHS in crisis, Windrush, 40k backlog in asylum claims, failed Rwanda scheme, Trussenomics, bankrupt councils, men in women's prisons, judicial crisis, failing public sector, prison crisis and COVID running rampant through care homes. Apparently it's now worse. Sure it is.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:51

MumOfManyAliases · 13/08/2025 21:50

Dubious in what way exactly?

🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really?

TheNuthatch · 13/08/2025 21:51

Julen7 · 13/08/2025 21:48

Yes that was pretty early on - July maybe?

Three weeks I believe? I remember the smirking and cheering from Labour.

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 21:52

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/08/2025 21:51

🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really?

What do you mean re the pp?

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