Uk is in big trouble - what do you think will happen?

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Thames water on brink of collapse. All those CEOs getting fat bonuses. Water shortages and rising bills.

the cost of living is off the chart. Every bill has gone up. Pop in to Tesco for toothpaste, butter and chicken and it costs an insane amount for just a few items.

the government are crap and taxing the hell out of us.

my salary is stuck. I feel constantly poor now. 10 years ago when I earned significantly less, I felt ok money wise. Chatted today to a colleague about science graduate son who is stuck doing a minimum wage job as there are no jobs here. I’ve noticed this myself in my town. The council have a few, other companies outsourced to India years ago, the pharma company moved out years ago and the land will soon be a new housing estate.

the nhs is a total mess.

housing costs make me want to weep! No chance of moving. Feel bad for my kids. They just keep building expensive houses here all packed into poorly designed estates. Tiny gardens. But no infrastructure. The promised schools get cancelled and drs surgeries and hospitals are rammed with patients. My mortgage of course is up.

in my industry… everyone is obsessed with AI and I’m sad to say it has taken some jobs already. There is a huge push towards AI.

there seems to be underlying tension here re migrants. People getting increasingly annoyed.

this country feels like a right mess. Making rich people richer and poor people even poorer. The middle earners are getting squeezed. I hate it.

i don’t remember it being this bad ever before.

why is it so terrible? And what do you think will happen?

I agree UK is in big trouble. Luckily the bottom 30% of the population (educationally-speaking) think Farage and Co. will save them, at which point they will, like Trump voters, discover that leopards will eat THEIR faces, not just those guys over there!

Ps- this is sarcasm for the hard of thinking in the back row. I think I'm more depressed at having to explain that on MN than I am at anything else.

On MN the majority were confident that the result would be Remain. "No-one could be stupid enough to vote Leave" was a popular phrase.
No lessons learned from that I see.

On MN the majority were confident that the result would be Remain. "No-one could be stupid enough to vote Leave" was a popular phrase. No lessons learned from that I see.

I find it baffling after brexit people will vote Reform

Many people voted for Brexit as a protest vote or believing the lies

Many MN posters are planning the same with Reform

Farage

No lessons learned indeed

I think that’s what’s motivating posters to condemn and laugh at Labour hypocrisy, dishonesty and incompetence.

In other news, I believe Tulip Siddiq’s, and others’, trial on corruption charges has begun in Bangladesh. This one could be eye popping if strong Awami League links to Labour and Starmer emerge.

Tulip Siddiq was of course the anti-corruption minister.

It’s a corker.

This isn’t really related to what I said. It’s not about whether you personally care. It’s just evident many do feel as strongly against Labour.

Of course you do!

If Labour MPs/councillors behave badly, I’m bloody furious because I expect better, frankly.

I maintained at the time that the Brexit vote was to give Cameron a bloody nose after six years of austerity. I haven’t changed my mind.

You've got a lot to be furious about at then moment then sadly.

Many people voted for Brexit as a protest vote or believing the lies

I have come to the conclusion people prefer to believe the lies no matter how unbelievable they are. The lie is more palatable than the reality.

No lessons learned indeed

depressing

"At the election in 2024 Labour won nearly half the ballots of those aged under 35. Today they hold onto around one-third, as young voters are splintering both rightwards to Reform UKand leftwards towards the Greens and the Liberal Democrats. Reform is now the most favoured party among people between 45 and 64 years old and is also now leading among the Conservative Party’s most dependable supporters: people aged 65 and older."

Staggering that so many believe Reform.

People voted for Johnson for the same reason they are now voting for Farage

I'm not sure they do all believe Reform. I personally can't stand Farage.
It won't stop them voting Reform if they feel strongly enough about getting Labour out.

Or was it because option b was Corbyn?

The convenient 'but Corbyn'.

People voted for a known liar with funny hair

@TheNuthatch even if you think labour are shit how can Reform be better?

Yes how are Labour still doing the ‘but Corbyn’ line anyway? He’s going to take some votes too.

Corbyn was absolutely a factor in that election. It certainly helped Johnson in the red wall.

I have no idea as Reform are un-tested. That's another reason people will vote for them. I've heard it described as breaking the emergency glass, because the two main parties have failed.

And they suffered the consequences, like the rest of us.

Oven ready deal, Party Gate

The Conservative members choose him as their leader.

He was the beginning of the end of the Tories

@TheNuthatch Is Farage untested? I would say we saw the outcome of Brexit and it was very different to the proposed benefits...

Their policies don't make any sense & they will set us back further like Brexit has done.

I have heard it described as putting out fire with gasoline.

(I miss Bowie).

Well we might be saying similar re Starmer if people feel annoyed enough.

It depends how much you have been impacted by Labour.
The Red Wall is deserting Labour because they have failed to improve the lives of their traditional voters and are being impacted by lack of employment etc under Labour. Don't underestimate the impact of benefit cuts.
Labour are doing fuck all to improve lives for those living in the North. Or cities like Birmingham, why do you think that's the first place Jezza visited?

So Corbyn was a factor?
Fwiw, I prefer Corbyn to Starmer. At least you know what he stands for.
Starmer's principles change with the bloody weather.