Uk is in big trouble - what do you think will happen?

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Thames water on brink of collapse. All those CEOs getting fat bonuses. Water shortages and rising bills.

the cost of living is off the chart. Every bill has gone up. Pop in to Tesco for toothpaste, butter and chicken and it costs an insane amount for just a few items.

the government are crap and taxing the hell out of us.

my salary is stuck. I feel constantly poor now. 10 years ago when I earned significantly less, I felt ok money wise. Chatted today to a colleague about science graduate son who is stuck doing a minimum wage job as there are no jobs here. I’ve noticed this myself in my town. The council have a few, other companies outsourced to India years ago, the pharma company moved out years ago and the land will soon be a new housing estate.

the nhs is a total mess.

housing costs make me want to weep! No chance of moving. Feel bad for my kids. They just keep building expensive houses here all packed into poorly designed estates. Tiny gardens. But no infrastructure. The promised schools get cancelled and drs surgeries and hospitals are rammed with patients. My mortgage of course is up.

in my industry… everyone is obsessed with AI and I’m sad to say it has taken some jobs already. There is a huge push towards AI.

there seems to be underlying tension here re migrants. People getting increasingly annoyed.

this country feels like a right mess. Making rich people richer and poor people even poorer. The middle earners are getting squeezed. I hate it.

i don’t remember it being this bad ever before.

why is it so terrible? And what do you think will happen?

Won’t a lot of those have taken early retirement? I know several who have recently retired in their mid 50s. Firemen, nurses, teachers, civil servants, business owners.

There's certainly a large far right presence saying the same thing. The extremists are preparing us for a race war.

It is not about Labour being torn apart.

What worries me are the posters on all forms of SM who, for example, stir up fear of asylum seekers and immigrants in general. Who slyly propagate the notion that the UK is a ,"tinderbox", ready to blow.

What their actual agenda is, I don't know. But it isn't one that is in the interests of ordinary UK citizens.

Example: There is a particular poster on X who is really sinister. They have been pushing the idea that our primary schools are about to be targeted by terrorists, using really explosive language.

Result: at least two threads from worried parents here on MN alone.

We should all be concerned about that.

Yes you're right. It was vicious on here for anyone who supported the tories pre GE. The same names taking a different stance now its Labour in the cross hairs.

Won’t a lot of those have taken early retirement? I know several who have recently retired in their mid 50s. Firemen, nurses, teachers, civil servants, business owners.

the "silver exodus" accounts for those taking early retirement & increased illness

Not much point in Russian bots supporting Labour is there, really? I mean agitators tend not to agitate in favour of the incumbent government ….

Estimates for payrolled employees in the UK fell by 149,000 (0.5%) between June 2024 and June 2025, and by 26,000 (0.1%) between May 2025 and June 2025.
When looking at April to June 2025, the period comparable with our Labour Force Survey (LFS) estimates, payrolled employees fell by 110,000 (0.4%) over the year, and by 66,000 (0.2%) over the quarter.

The NI + NMW increases have led to redundancies and recruitment freezes. These took effect April 25 so that fits in with the fall in payrolled employees.

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If you accept that Reform are going to win in 2029, that they will be a complete disaster and that they will drive the country to the edge of ruin, then I guess you also accept that we may well end up being bailed out by the IMF.
In which case, don’t you think it would be a good idea if we just cut out the Reform part and jumped straight to some of the cost cutting measures that the IMF would make us introduce?
For example, we could tighten eligibility for benefits, cut the pension triple lock, increase income tax, freeze public sector wages, introduce pay to use for some NHS services etc. etc. Horrible I know, but all these measures are looking increasingly inevitable to me whether we do them voluntarily or end up being forced to do them.
It is also clear that Brexit has been a complete disaster so we need to find ways to mitigate this - getting ourselves closer to Europe again. In addition, we need to pause net zero so as to ease the cost of energy and to find a way to reduce the flow of immigrants into this country - if only to take the wind out of Reform’s sails.
A lot of austerity measures have caused more damage than they have solved so we still need to invest in infrastructure, offer tax breaks for innovation, reform planning so we can increase housing supply and work hard at creating more trade agreements etc It would be impossible for any party to get voted in on this manifesto I suppose, but it makes sense to me at least!

Extreme far right have been peddling that crap for over 40 years.
I've highlighted on similar thread's the organisations names change but the message is always the same.
It was newspaper sales, leaflets, stickers to garner support now with SM they can reach a wider audience.

Not sure this works, did you say the same before they were in re the last gov?

Did you say the same about the Tory bashing threads though wheh they were in power? Or because you agreed with them then you just joined in anyway and didn't think about whether an external puppetmaster was involved?

I've been accused about five billion times of working for the unions when I posted anti-Tory education stuff.

No far from it ,the amount of posts advocating race war , civil unrest, Britain is being invaded don't you think that's something any right thinking person would be concerned about.
No tin foil hat required because none of the above is going to happen.
Racial hatred is being stoked in the UK.

Pp have posted about the shortage of council houses which is a countrywide problem.
However the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. In our friendly and safe village a resident of a council house died a few months ago. This house isn’t big - sitting room & kitchen downstairs, 1 bedroom and bathroom upstairs - but it’s set back from the road with a 15ft x 30ft garden and would be a nice house for a single person or a child free couple and I’m sure there are plenty of such folk waiting to be housed.
However the council have sold it.

Try to understand. It is not the straight forward Labour bashing threads. I don't think any of those posters are bots.

It's the far right poison that is being dripped.

The first sentence isn’t really needed. But what we’re seeing is a consequence of inaction and false promises.

Because patronising people with "try to understand" will always win them over 🙄

Well, no. The various Conservative Governments were reprehensible all by themselves. They put bots to shame.
Couldn't have made it up.

I could cite Priti Patel’s “holiday” in Israel when she met the disgrace who is Netanyahu and 13 further Israeli ministers without feeling the need to declare it. Can’t cite Boris Johnson’s appalling conduct t because there’s probably not enough room in the internet.
Why on earth would I have jumped in and claimed “bots”. It was there, clear as day in real time for all to see?

Ok so this is how many feel about Labour. Look at the approval rating.

Thank you.
So we also have rhe right to call out Labour on their numerous scandals/issues/incompetency etc without accusations of being a bot etc.

80%+ of people polled feel how you've just described, about Labour.

I apologise.

Accepted 😊

Tbh, don’t really care how “many” feel about Labour 🤷‍♀️
Trust my own instincts. At this point, it’s the best option.
“Many” felt that Brexit was the way to go. Well, not really, a tiny minority. That went well.

This!