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Why are so many women beholdent to a male

105 replies

Lifeisinteresting · 11/08/2025 21:46

I give up. I was brought up to be independent. I got pregnant at 16 ir was not I’m dead! I had the kid (she's now a Dr) I was a board director in a FTSE 100 at 32. I worked hard. Why are there so many posts on Mumsnet by women who can't take responsibility?

OP posts:
JHound · 12/08/2025 10:15

Oh it’s a driveby poster with no follow-up in the thread.

Exits

Overtheatlantic · 12/08/2025 10:17

Is beholdent a word?

randomchap · 12/08/2025 10:18

Overtheatlantic · 12/08/2025 10:17

Is beholdent a word?

It's perfectly cromulent

backinthebox · 12/08/2025 10:19

Oh, well done you, OP! How fab to be so independent. By ‘beholdent,’ do you actually mean ‘beholden?’ As in ‘indebted’ or ‘feeling you have a duty to someone who has done you a favour?’ It’s not clear with your poor use of English. Hopefully your PA sends out slightly more coherent messages to your employees. I suppose in a way, that would make you beholden to your PA, so let’s hope they are not a man, eh!

Anyway - back to other women, the ones you are preaching to, being beholden to men. Wtf do you actually mean by that? It’s so unclear from your post. I suppose in a way, anyone who had been with a man since they were 16 would be beholden to that man for the life they live now. And the man would be beholden to their partner too. I’ve been with my husband since we were 16. He’s offered me his support, his strength and his love to help me be the strong independent woman I am. I do things far beyond the ability of most women (including you, probably) but do them from a position of security, knowing my husband has my back at all times. So I suppose that makes me ‘beholden’ to him. Likewise, he has made a life for himself that needs the support of a partner too, he would not be a director of a multinational company (if we are boasting about that sort of thing) without me behind him. So I suppose he is beholden to me too. Neither of us is independent of the other. We don’t look at it as each of us owing a debt of gratitude to the other - we look at it as marriage. He owes me nothing, I owe him nothing, yet without each other we would not be where we are today.

edwinbear · 12/08/2025 10:41

A quick Google suggests there has never been a female board director of a FTSE 100 at the age of 32. Obviously. This is just BS isn’t it OP.

GreenWheat · 12/08/2025 13:35

edwinbear · 12/08/2025 10:41

A quick Google suggests there has never been a female board director of a FTSE 100 at the age of 32. Obviously. This is just BS isn’t it OP.

Well knock me down with a feather! 😂

MumbleBumbleAppleCrumble · 12/08/2025 13:38

Child at 16, a FTSE 100 board director at 32 - and all apparently whilst being dead - and yet writing a coherent paragraph is clearly beyond you…

VideoTomorrow · 12/08/2025 13:39

Lifeisinteresting · 11/08/2025 21:46

I give up. I was brought up to be independent. I got pregnant at 16 ir was not I’m dead! I had the kid (she's now a Dr) I was a board director in a FTSE 100 at 32. I worked hard. Why are there so many posts on Mumsnet by women who can't take responsibility?

Are you of at least average intelligence? Possibly well above?

Did you have supportive parents - emotionally/practically/financially? Did your upbringing mean that you have a high EQ?

Don't underestimate the power of those things.

Hoppinggreen · 12/08/2025 13:40

Wow, you have achieved a lot despite being dead (and having a loose grasp of grammar and spelling)

vodkaredbullgirl · 12/08/2025 13:41

JHound · 12/08/2025 10:15

Oh it’s a driveby poster with no follow-up in the thread.

Exits

One of them is it, drop and run

Port1aCastis · 12/08/2025 13:41

Well most women can think for themselves and see through bullshit

x2boys · 12/08/2025 13:44

Tbf this is mumsnet irl,having a child at such a young age would at best hold someone back from reaching their potential for a good few years but on mumsnet they would still go on to get fantastic Alevels ,places at a Russell group ( it's always Russell group ) university get first class degree ,and go on to be a CEO of a multi national company .

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 12/08/2025 13:45

VideoTomorrow · 12/08/2025 13:39

Are you of at least average intelligence? Possibly well above?

Did you have supportive parents - emotionally/practically/financially? Did your upbringing mean that you have a high EQ?

Don't underestimate the power of those things.

Parents could probably have given her a head's up that the word is 'beholden' though.

Bambamhoohoo · 12/08/2025 13:47

Oh OP chat gpt doesn’t even know about you? How will it ever take over the world, they?

Based on the latest reputable information, the youngest-ever female board director in a FTSE 100 company is Julie Chakraverty, who was appointed as a non-executive director of Aberdeen Asset Management (and previously Paternoster) in 2011 at the age of 39 UKTN.
To clarify other notable figures:

  • Liv (Olivia) Garfield became the youngest female CEO of a FTSE 100 company (Severn Trent) when she was appointed at age 38, but that's as a CEO—not a board director—so slightly different role and not the youngest female director per se Yorkshire PostWikipedia.
  • Louise Botting, who joined the board of CGNU (now Aviva), was one of the first female FTSE 100 directors, but she was well over 39 at the time of appointment and not the youngest Wikipedia.
So in summary, Julie Chakraverty, at age 39, holds the record as the youngest-ever female board director in a FTSE 100 company. Let me know if you’d like details on her career or other pioneering board appointments!

Louise Botting - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Botting?utm_source=chatgpt.com

arcticpandas · 12/08/2025 13:50

Maybe they are disabled or have got disabled children? In our case my DH works for all of us so I can take care of my autistic DS. Or do you think it's better to be beholden to the state in that case?

Gotback · 12/08/2025 13:52

Beholdent myt arset.

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 12/08/2025 13:54

VexedofVirginiaWater · 11/08/2025 21:52

Not everyone is as clever as you are.

Nor can they write as eloquently.

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 12/08/2025 13:54

Gotback · 12/08/2025 13:52

Beholdent myt arset.

🤣

Iloveyoubut · 12/08/2025 14:12

Lifeisinteresting · 11/08/2025 21:46

I give up. I was brought up to be independent. I got pregnant at 16 ir was not I’m dead! I had the kid (she's now a Dr) I was a board director in a FTSE 100 at 32. I worked hard. Why are there so many posts on Mumsnet by women who can't take responsibility?

I honestly don’t even know what you’re saying

DiordreBarlow · 12/08/2025 14:20

Lifeclearlyisn'tinteresting enough without making up stories for MN.

Loving the 'I give up' at the beginning of the OP. She clearly hasn't.

SkylarFalls · 12/08/2025 14:26

Lifeisinteresting · 11/08/2025 21:46

I give up. I was brought up to be independent. I got pregnant at 16 ir was not I’m dead! I had the kid (she's now a Dr) I was a board director in a FTSE 100 at 32. I worked hard. Why are there so many posts on Mumsnet by women who can't take responsibility?

My biggest regret in life was buying the "don't be tied down the worlds your oyster" 90s / 00s snobbery around settling down young. And putting things like comfort and security and companionship and family off to go prove what an independent young woman I was

You might not envy my life now, but I probably wouldn't envy yours

Does that answer your question?

DiordreBarlow · 12/08/2025 14:49

"I had the kid"

The absence of love and warmth in those four words is heartbreaking.

PennyRest · 12/08/2025 14:50

Have you tried cycling OP?

YesButNoButMayybee · 12/08/2025 14:52

Oh yeah, I definitely believe you. You don't seem thick and hairy at all.
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SkylarFalls · 12/08/2025 15:04

Oh and OP I won't be bringing up my kids to value independence either.

It's a bit sad to be glad that you do everything alone.

Independence skills - yes

Not needing anyone = a bit sad and defensive IMO

Is it because nobody needs you? that you think we are all going around striving to be bubbles of not needing anyone else?