To wonder how the UK will look in 3 years time?

[Labradorlover987]

I was inspired to write this after reading the UC post that was just reported - the govt’s welfare bill has passed but was watered down so unlikely to make any real savings.

I earn 40k, have a school age child and just feel like I am living hand to mouth 😩 I 100% think there should be a welfare systems that supports people on low incomes but I wonder how the current system will be sustained in the long run?

Just wondered what other people thought.

I actually wouldn’t mind paying more in taxes if we could be guaranteed more in services etc - for example my council tax just went up and the services seem even worse this year than usual.

Thank you for your permission.

You again, with your bloody facts!

It is because of I drive now around Surrey where we are, all I see is massive houses, white people, big cars, everyone just been to a nice European holiday, so who's doing the moaning

The pensioner on a 50,000 pa pension is paying tax on it

People who don’t live in nice parts of Surrey?

Does this include work pensions or just the governmental please

You sound worried?

Please don’t take any notice of this sort of speculation by goodness knows who on the internet. It is just that, pure speculation (by a private individual or something more sinister) designed to frighten people and “nudge” them. Please don’t let it.

That's all that is needed.

I'm very new here. Primarily thinking of my daughters

Do you mean people like Charlie Mullins who was born to a cleaner mother and grew up on sink council estate? then established Pimlico Plumbers and is now worth about 80m? but left UK last year because of the issues we're discussing here?

Fair comment. Strategy worked in 1066, 1347c 1665, 1914, 1939, etc.

I think @Oatcat was pretty reasonable with her view.

Just because you would not wish it, does not make it less likely.

Bingo!

Behave.

If I can just say “reform will be in” sort of gave you away.

For how long have you been posting on MN? Just curious.

A “mega dinghy” has brought a record 107 migrants across the Channel to Britain.

The boat arrived in the UK in the early hours of Wednesday, carrying the largest number of illegal migrants to have reached the country in a single vessel from France.

The average small boat that reached Britain in July was carrying 60 migrants.

What are you talking about?

Where did I say ‘reform will be in’?

Settle down.

Your daughters already have enormous life advantages, being born in the UK to parents who care about their futures.

All will be well.

’All will be well’

Why do you say that? Because, Labour are in government?

Why fo you think British people are undercut. There are jobs and everyone who lives here can apply , more so the people with the British passport. Just curious

This is very patronising (sure it wasn’t meant to be but…)

OK but we now have the Guardian talking about 50000 arriving on boats since Labour got in. What is going on?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/12/more-than-50000-people-crossed-channel-in-small-boats-since-labour-took-power

I work with loads of supposed successful “foreigners” who pay tons of tax! Lots of Europeans, Chinese, Indians, South Koreans, Japanese, US, Canadians. If anything I would say we needed them for the taxes.

My apologies: that should have been directed to Oatcat.

I’m very settled, knitting and wine, waiting for my goats’ cheese Caesar 🤣 just irritated by the number of these threads recently, generally posted by new “contributors”.

Sorry, again.

It is all really confusing. If you are a foreigner and a “net contributor” paying shedloads to support the NHS and the feckless work shy British, all is good. If you are an “immigrant” taking out of the system then because of your origins all is bad, because they already have enough of them like this to deal with themselves.
Is that basically the story line?
So for a foreigner net contribution matters immensely and you are there for the taking, the more the better, especially if you are ultra rich, but if you are poor you are dirt. But if you are white British and poor, then you are the holy grail?
Please make it make sense!

Charlie the rip off racist?