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To be so sick of being broke?

633 replies

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 09/08/2025 20:12

This is pretty much just a moan really. I'm already doing everything I can to try and improve our situation financially. Although nothing's working atm. 😑

Both DH and I work full-time, on minimum wage. Me 45 hours per week, him between 40-50 depending on the week. And we still can't make ends meet. I'm talking having about £50 left in the bank 2 days after payday because all the bills have come out.

Not entitled to any benefits as earn too much for UC (on MW? 😐). Kids are grown up (22 and 18) but still living at home. DD1 is in college and on UC and waiting to see if she's entitled to PIP for her autism. DD2 is starting uni next month and works part-time herself.

I'm just so fucking sick of the cost of everything. To the point I'm questioning whether I can afford to buy a £6 pack of Benadryl for my fucking hayfever! 😡

Applying for multiple better-paying jobs every week and getting bloody nowhere! Urgh.

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2021x · 10/08/2025 20:36

I feel you OP. We were sold a lie that if we work hard we would have choices. Social media/media in general also gives us to much comparison making us feel like we are failing.

Pregnancyquestion · 10/08/2025 20:37

DeafLeppard · 10/08/2025 19:56

The problem is, many times people get frustrated with the OP just refusing to act like a responsible adult, with their head in the sand and refusal to engage with appropriate solutions.

In cases of genuine need, this place can be incredibly supportive, and full of good ideas and helpful links. But yes, if you just want to come and moan when there are a few reasonable steps you can take to make your troubles less severe that you just don’t want to do, you will get your arse handed to you.

Her bills are paid, her family is fed, she’s doing what she can to lose weight, and has a couple of luxuries. How on earth is she not acting like an adult?

Dunnocantthinkofone · 10/08/2025 20:38
  • £32 for 3 months
  • £114 for 12 months
If you pay more than this for your prescriptions, it might be a tiny worthwhile saving- especially if you can get the shit doctors to prescribe for hay fever too!
Pregnancyquestion · 10/08/2025 20:40

BlueSeagull · 10/08/2025 20:01

The phrase champagne lifestyle orange juice budget comes to mind (or living beyond your means at any rate)Things such as Netflix, gym membership and Mounjaro are nice to have yes but you can’t afford them so don’t have them. If you can afford to keep a roof over heads and food in your fridge you’re doing better than some. Cut back on the luxuries use that to over pay debts.
I would like to be booking a holiday business class to the Maldives but I can’t afford to so I am not.

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Oh my god, you are hilarious. Champagne lifestyle!! Are you joking? Netflix and a medication to help lose weight. Peak mumsnet

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/08/2025 20:40

OP (and others) are you not concerned that when people stop Mounjaro, hunger often snaps back — and for some, it comes back stronger than before starting treatment.

Smleps · 10/08/2025 20:40

HiddenRiver · 10/08/2025 17:17

I feel sorry for you OP. I had friends in similar circumstances- can you reduce hours at PAYe work which would enable you to get some UC and use the extra time for a cash in hand job? (That’s what my friends did and they now have less stress and more cash). Good luck x

How is this right? The rest of us pay for Netflix and slimming jabs.

Kirbert2 · 10/08/2025 20:42

GypsyQueeen · 10/08/2025 20:35

I don't really know anything about UC but I'm surprised to hear a student at college can get it. When I was a student we all had pt jobs.

A student at College can only get it if they are disabled.

LakieLady · 10/08/2025 20:43

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/08/2025 16:43

I thought UC looks at household income, so if you are unentitled to it - your kids would also be unentitled?

Adult children count as non-dependents and can claim UC in their own right.

DeafLeppard · 10/08/2025 20:43

Pregnancyquestion · 10/08/2025 20:37

Her bills are paid, her family is fed, she’s doing what she can to lose weight, and has a couple of luxuries. How on earth is she not acting like an adult?

If that’s the case and everything is hunky dory, why is the OP moaning?

Acting like an adult would be recognising that paying down the debt ASAP is the most important thing to do, and whilst you might get away with one item such as gym/netflix/ultrafast internet/mounjaro, paying for all of them and still complaining isn’t the best course of action.

YourSnugGreyPanda · 10/08/2025 20:44

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/08/2025 20:40

OP (and others) are you not concerned that when people stop Mounjaro, hunger often snaps back — and for some, it comes back stronger than before starting treatment.

Well she’s spending nearly a grand a month on groceries, so even if the hunger comes back, she should just about be able to manage 😂

Smleps · 10/08/2025 20:44

DeafLeppard · 10/08/2025 20:43

If that’s the case and everything is hunky dory, why is the OP moaning?

Acting like an adult would be recognising that paying down the debt ASAP is the most important thing to do, and whilst you might get away with one item such as gym/netflix/ultrafast internet/mounjaro, paying for all of them and still complaining isn’t the best course of action.

Absolutely this!

WiddlinDiddlin · 10/08/2025 20:46

Yup, being skint is utterly shit.

However, you've a roof over your head, enough to pay off your debts and put food on the table.

You could choose not to support two adults who have some income - and then you would have income to save for emergencies like the car dying or the washer going kaput.

However you've prioritised supporting your adult children, and skint is the result of that choice.

You can get moany and pissy about being skint, or you could focus on the fact you had enough income to make that choice in the first place.

Personally, in your shoes I'd be asking the adult kids for a suitable percentage of their income toward food/bills. And then save that toward emergencies.

Singlehouseholdjoy · 10/08/2025 20:51

I think asking kids to contribute would be really good. If they each contributed only £60 a month , that's your debt repayment accounted for (the £112 one)
It's also helpful for them to start to learn stuff like that. The other thing a friend had to do with her parents was, she was veggie, and they weren't, so she would buy her veggie alternatives every month as her contribution. It worked well as her mum was baffled by vegetarian stuff in the 1980s 🤣
I think there would be ways to make them financially responsible for something in the family and it would ease the wheels a bit

DollydaydreamTheThird · 10/08/2025 20:52

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 20:32

Thanks. I pay for my prescriptions. I've tried getting hay fever meds from my GP before, several times. He told me to buy some Piriton, (which don't work for me anyway). My GP surgery is really crap.

The bastards just don't want to pay for them. My surgery did the same when I asked for fexofenadine on prescription. I live in an affluent area but I'm not affluent. Ask a different gp and tell them you are struggling to afford them otherwise. Might be worth another try OP??

Singlehouseholdjoy · 10/08/2025 20:53

I think part of the problem with being skint is that every one has helpful suggestions that often are 'you could try this' and it feels just knackering to have another 10 things to try , to save scraps of money here and there

Pregnancyquestion · 10/08/2025 20:55

DeafLeppard · 10/08/2025 20:43

If that’s the case and everything is hunky dory, why is the OP moaning?

Acting like an adult would be recognising that paying down the debt ASAP is the most important thing to do, and whilst you might get away with one item such as gym/netflix/ultrafast internet/mounjaro, paying for all of them and still complaining isn’t the best course of action.

I didn’t realise that was the official definition of being an adult. Silly me.

Thid couple are working full time jobs, they have adult children that are still dependent on them because that’s just the way life is now, and they are doing their best to make ends meet. They have minimal extras, broadband - needed for job, gym and Mounjaro - important for health and mental health. And then they pay for Netflix. They are hardly living outside their means. Two adults working full time should be able to have a bit of flexibility. So to come on here bashing her because she’s not surviving on the bare minimum in life and saying she’s not an adult is rude and unnecessary. People are allowed to moan. Because it’s shit, two working adults can’t even have a few minimal ‘luxuries’ without money becoming really tight so yeah I think it’s fine to have a moan about it

LakieLady · 10/08/2025 20:57

HoskinsChoice · 10/08/2025 17:36

As has been pointed out by several other posters, in the UK, it is acrivastine, not diphenhydramine, it is a different active ingredient. You are wrong, (unless you're based overseas in which case we are both right).

You are also wrong to say all drugs have a generic equivalent. Most if not all drugs start life on a restricted licence which means they cannot legally be copied. When their licence runs out, competitors can then copy the ingredients and can make their own branded or unbranded equivalents. So newly developed drugs wont have a generic either. I've been using Acrivastine for years. It's expensive and I'd love it if there were generics out there but for some reason there never has been. If you can find me one in the UK, I'd be delighted, please feel free to prove me wrong.

I've been getting acrivastine on prescription for decades. I think it's outrageous that OP's GP won't prescribe it.

My allergies are year round, not hay fever, so it would cost me a fortune if I had to buy it. Plus I'm old, and don't even have to pay for prescriptions.

TipsyPeachSnake · 10/08/2025 20:57

I’m not in a minimum wage job but I also earn less than I did 20 years ago, even though I’m working in the same field. Blows my mind really to think about it when everything else has increased in price.

OP is not spending on cigarettes and booze so reasonable to have a tv package for downtime. And £25 gym membership is very cheap, definitely worth it if gym also has pool and use is made of it. I pay £50 for my gym membership and there are more expensive ones than that in my local area.

The average grocery bill for family of four is £120pw and OPs spend also includes dog food, care, toiletries and household essentials so not that far off.

The only advice I have OP is get on MSE threads for inspiration. Maybe make a couple hundred here and there by switching bank accounts. Sell unwanted / unused items / clothes online or car boot sales. Losing that much weight you will need a new wardrobe so sell your old clothes.

Good luck!

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 10/08/2025 20:57

MontagueLeo · 10/08/2025 20:56

For some reason, I thought the brand name said "Anus" when I read it at a glance quickly - I wondered why you'd need anus cream for hay-fever! 😆🤧😅

Singlehouseholdjoy · 10/08/2025 20:59

MontagueLeo · 10/08/2025 20:56

This is £5 with a delivery charge as well. Meaning Benadryl in Tescos is cheaper

Dunnocantthinkofone · 10/08/2025 21:01

Singlehouseholdjoy · 10/08/2025 20:53

I think part of the problem with being skint is that every one has helpful suggestions that often are 'you could try this' and it feels just knackering to have another 10 things to try , to save scraps of money here and there

I agree with this actually. The daily grind of being skint, working (more than) full time and steering an autistic young adult and a teen through life is not something I’d do willingly and I can only imagine how a big debt v a small income seems like an impossible mountain to climb.
Saving a few quid here and there might not seem worth it amongst all that.
It IS worth it though. There’s been a lot of good advice in amongst the snide comments. Maybe pick that one thing to change (ideally the one that financially impacts the most) at a time. Every little step is one step nearer to freedom from those debts (cliched I know, but still true!)

PyongyangKipperbang · 10/08/2025 21:02

I am a single parent who works PT, is a carer for her parents and relies on carers allowance and UC. I get what its like to have very little money.

But I dont spunk money on unneccessary things and then moan I cant afford the neccessities! I could cut your expenditure down by £300 straight away. Which chucked at your debt would make a big difference.

The simple fact is YOU CANNOT AFFORD THE THINGS YOU WANT. Neither can I! So you know what? I dont buy them! I do without. I dont like it and I wish things were different but they aint so I have to accept it.

Bunny44 · 10/08/2025 21:02

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 15:22

Yes, I spent over 20 years out of work as a SAHM/carer for dd1. We used to get DLA for her, and I was able to claim carer's allowance. DH has always worked, but they've always been low level MW jobs. Every time he's gotten a qualification in something, it's ended up being useless.

DD1 got rejected for PIP when she was 16, as "she looks fine to me", according to the bitch of an assessor. It's taken until now for us to be able to go through the process of reapplying, as after last time, she pretty much had a mental breakdown. She hasn't been recovered for that long.

My job is in admin, I work 45 hours per week but only get paid for 40. The extra 5 hours are for my unpaid breaks, but 9/10 I work through them as our workload is fucking ridiculous. DH is a milkman. Again, he gets paid for around 35 hours per week, but does anything between 40-50.

I know we can complain about workloads etc, but it's a problem in most low-level jobs now. If you can't keep up with the workload, they'll just find someone who will. It's easier to keep your mouth shut, do the work and just keep trying to get another job.

So take home after tax, NI and pension, I get around £1750ish per month, and DH gets £1560 per month. £3310 for everything for 4 adults isn't a lot.

Breakdown of everything;
Rent - £600
Gas/Electric - £450 (paying off debt)
Water - £100 (paying off debt)
Council Tax - £165
Council Tax debt - £230 (paying off bailiffs)
Mobiles - £100 (2 on contract, paying off devices, 2 PAYG)
Car Insurance - £45
Diesel/car maintenance - £100 (DH needs the car to get to work as does permanent nights)
Internet - £65 (need top speed as WFH FT)
Subscriptions/VPN - £66
Gym - £25
Mounjaro - £99
Debt - £112
Groceries (including toiletries etc) - £850 (ish).

I do shop around as much as possible for different deals etc, shop in a mixture of Aldi, Tesco, Lidl and Asda.

I know loads of people have said similar things but you are paying over the necessary for phones and internet and food bills. I work from home full time and need high speed internet and mine is £25/month. I only get a new phone really every 5-6 years and I shop around for something affordable on contract and once it's paid off I switch to SIM only for under £8. If I was broke I'd be even more careful as there are cheaper deals.

I am not broke. Actually I earn a lot but I'm a single mum and I've lost my job before and ended up living on savings for a year. The only benefits I qualified for were job seekers and basic child benefit for 6 months. So I know what it is to have no income and also a lot and I'm telling you it's all about the little choices you make which save the day and you should always be thinking about saving and a long term plan.

I have earned under £30k in the past and at that time I was buying the discounted items in the super market and freezing them, I had barely any subscriptions, I found good things to do for free. I enjoyed my life still a lot. It wasn't always easy but I didn't feel hard done by and that was on one income, not 2.

On a side note if DD1 attends college, I'm assuming they went to school? Why were you a full time carer for 20 years?

I'm not saying they are not disabled but i know other parents with really quite disabled children too and the children go to specialist schools while they go to work. You should focus on gaining experience in your current role so you can progress and earn more. Cut back on unnecessary spending. Prioritise paying off the debts ASAP and once those are paid off you'll be much better off.

NewtoSE · 10/08/2025 21:04

Bjorkdidit · 10/08/2025 08:04

I suspect the OP won't clarify what her incomings and outgoings are because it will show that they're not broke and either need to manage their money more effectively and/or ask their adult DC to contribute to their living costs. Or that they've been topping up their lifestyle with debt and they're at the point where the payments have become unaffordable.

Two people working an average of 90 hours pw at NMW and paying 5% into a pension will be bringing in around £3800 pm. Which should be sufficient to cover housing, bills, food, transport and some leisure without skimping too much. Unless we're using the MN definition of 'broke' which appears to mean that they can't buy what they want, when they want, without their money running out.

you can’t say that with any certainty without knowing where OP lives. Good luck paying for rent, council tax, £9 daily TFL charge, and everything else in London with £3800 per month.