To think Kate and William saw Harry and Meghan as a real threat to their image?

[BluntPinkNewt]

From the moment Harry and Meghan got together, the media attention was huge. Meghan was glamorous, charismatic, and had a strong public presence - something the royal family hadn’t seen before from an outsider. For a while, it felt like they were the most exciting and modern part of the monarchy.

Kate and William have always been the “stable” and “traditional” royals but suddenly, Harry and Meghan were drawing attention in a way that might have made them seem more relatable and interesting in comparison. The shift in public perception (and maybe even palace dynamics) must have been unsettling.

Obviously things have played out the way they have but AIBU to think that, at least at the time, William and Kate felt genuinely threatened by how much attention and influence Harry and Meghan were gaining?

You can criticise a woman without it being misogyny. Name-calling is often used (especially on social media) as a pretext to end debate, usually when the poster believes they are losing the argument. There is plenty to criticise about MM and doing so doesn't make you a misogynist.

I can assure you that Kate has never once felt threatened by the media profile that Haz and M had created for them.
Any differences are to do with normal, familial differences.
They're such different people and there's much behind the scenes that the general public have no knowledge of. 😂
Both sides with the best for each other privately and there is a lot communication betwixt the families that is, rightly, kept private.
But, yeah, keep on believing everything you read.
😅

It would always have gone downhill.

I honestly can not imagine what a socially conscious woman born and raised in California could have in common with them. Coming from a completely different sphere of existence and not wanting to seamlessly fit in? That was never going to go down well.

If Natalia Vodianova, a well known, resilient supermodel, found aristocracy in the UK unwelcoming, I can only imagine the pressure MM felt.

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"Women don't need to be given a voice, we have a voice", said Meghan.

Yes, but her actions show a different attitude. anyone who thinks highly of Meghan can't have seen the video of her during the tour of South Africa, meeting a group of women who had suffered sexual abuse.

One of them with a tragic background was invited to tell her story. Instead of giving the woman her attention, Meghan ignored her,sat on the floor and asked the other women to join her. It was obvious they were hesitant as they wearing skirts. Meghan gave all her attention to their babies and barely glanced round at the woman whose story she was there to hear.

It was beyond rude, utterly shameful. I'm convinced Meghan was spoken to about this when the tour was over and that was one of the reasons she and Harry left.

@BluntPinkNewt I think you are overestimating how well known MM was before she started seeing Harry , she wasn’t A list and unless you watched Suits you would never have heard of her , it was hardly a global profile .

Wasn't that Megan's strap line when she was working on the yachts?

’Human feelings… like image management’?
I may live on a different planet to
you.

You talk like you are either staff or a member of the family.

You cannot assure us of anything. No one knows

No OP.

They are a sad pair. An entitled and dim Prince whose childish resentment was exploited by a malignant narcissist C-list actress looking for a leg-up to wealth and status her own talent couldn’t supply.

W&C will be king and queen and H&M sink without trace.

What was Kate's? She worked on a yacht too

' global profile' 'disruptive'

I feel like I'm reading a sycophantic editorial for some sleb mag like Hello or OK trying to be cutting edge

And yet @Bingbopboomboomboombopbaam this ‘socially conscious Californian’ constantly calls herself the Duchess of Sussex when I am fairly sure she wouldn’t be able to locate Sussex on a map. It’s mind boggling the things one is willing to ‘endure’ when one can monetise it.

William is famously work-shy. His elderly aunt does more engagements than he does. What causes does William highlight? I haven't heard of any so I don't think he is doing it very well. I think that the Queen's life could probably be described as a life of service but certainly not William's.

@PotolKimchi I agree, but I was referring to when she started out, not her current image.

I have no dog in this fight, I dislike all of them equally and monarchies are pointless.

(okay maybe I dislike Andrew and princess Michael a bit more than the rest of the lot)

But Kate and William and everyone else in the UK old enough to vote has seen decades of the ups and downs of media story telling over the royals

You get a big wave of positive attention for the engagement. Then there’s a couple of months of attempts at dirt digging or things going wrong in the run up to the wedding. Then there’s a next huge wave of positive attention for the wedding.

Then there’s a cooling off period and more attempts at dirt digging and drama.

Then there’s a huge wave of positive attention for the birth of a baby.

And repeat.

What’s astonishing is that Harry didn’t understand that or didn’t explain it to Meghan before they got married. There will be ups and downs and ups and downs.

They sounded ridiculous complaining as though they were the only ones to get that kind of media attention.

You are showing your ignorance here. A quick google would set you right on most of your misconceptions.

What’s astonishing is that Harry didn’t understand that or didn’t explain it to Meghan before they got married. There will be ups and downs and ups and downs.

I think Harry's neglect (for want of a better word) in preparing Meghan for what his family and life were actually like is something often overlooked.

When you think of some of the things that obviously surprised her and every single one is because he didn't explain it to her, and/or didn't make sure he himself knew enough to explain it to her.

She didn't know that they curtseyed to the Queen even in private, until she was on her way to meet her. Same with the thing about being barefoot and in jeans when meeting William and Kate and then being formal.
Thinking that your partners famous family behaved very formally in public and then informally like any other family in private isn't a ridiculous thing on her part. It's ridiculous that he didn't prepare her for the fact that the Queen is the Queen who gets a curtsey when she's in Westminster abbey, but she's also the same Queen who gets a curtsey at a private family lunch.

In the Oprah interview Meghan clearly believed that Archie should have been titled as a prince when he was born and that was changed. That's just incorrect. He would never have been titled that until his Grandfather was King. The changes made for William's children were about the potential sexism row if he had a girl first due to the primogeniture changes, not because they were favoured over Harry's children specifically.

She said she didn't need help from anyone else because she had Harry to teach her, and that should have been correct. He should have been savvy enough to teach her the ins and outs of the family business. He either wasn't, or he chose not to.

Personally I think it's quite telling that the one person that seemed to not understand the detail of how the family worked and what the press would be like is the one that he actually got down the aisle.

Things I have noticed about MM ….
not a single friend at the wedding. Not a sorority sister or childhood friend or fellow industry friend. Jessica M was a recent friend and she conveniently supplied her son for the wedding party
MM expression or the way her head is turned is often out of sync with other royals at events. She’s got a content expression they look to be grieving she’s facing directly at a camera thus creating a cameo picture opportunity while everyone else is facing forward. She looks to be always performing or seeking solo attention.

Royal fashion did not suit her. Not the dusty pink not the white while pregnant not the green with kidney bean beret not the white collared dress with large hat.

when she and H are exiting the garden party (where supposedly she uttered “I’m bored” and Hand M were asked to leave ) her exit walk showcasing her back screams to me “I have to walk out of here with head held high” as does the solo M and H walk down the steps and then down the aisle in the white dress right before finding out they have no seats

she was an actress of some sorts but she really has some salacious footage out there

of course she knew about the royal family… she was photographed in front of BP as a young teen and if she didn’t she certainly wasn’t curious about the world

she does talk way too much about herself as if she is soooooo interesting but shes not in every podcast every episode of everything

she was not a philanthropist/ activist of any type prior to Harry

the estrangement from all her family is so very counter to life in the royal family

I think that K and W were threatened. Kate, while she seems nice, is very much an alpha female and I don’t think there was room for more than 1. I genuinely think people underestimate her.

I don’t particularly mind M&H and I feel sorry for them given the family situation they are in- whether they caused it or not. Having said that, anyone who would release a video of themselves twerking in the labour suite like M did wasn’t realistically going to last in the RF. What they think is ok is just too at odds with the Monarchy.

From the earliest days of Meghan's arrival. She made me uneasy. The frequent batting of her eyelashes which accompanied the looking upward into his eyes with adoration were so blatantly false thay I couldn't believe Harry fell for it. It was all Bmovie staged.

I am a H and M supporter. My user name is a nod to a rather handsome character in Chicago Fire….so your theory is a bit bolloxed

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/william-and-kate-prince-of-wales-kate-windsor-peter-phillips-b1237748.html

https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/prince-william

William addresses his privilege in helping homeless https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglk70e005do

Housing for homeless youths approved on royal land https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cewyxqvg7gjo

There are plenty more if those aren’t enough for you @thepariscrimefiles.

Theory? 🤣
i asked a question because in the rf topic there are four posters all with similar names!
did I imply that only posters with that format were the only supporters? No .
my question was answered.
you seem to have taken something that has nothing to do with you very personally!
why?

What Prince and Princess Doolittle! Even before her illness Catherine was the laziest working royal closely followed by Willie! Even now she’s in remission he’s not stepped up to support his father who is still undergoing treatment! It’s a shame that if anything happens to Charles the crown cannot bypass them and go to Anne, she’s worth 10 of the Wales’s!