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Taking a child scared of dogs into a dog friendly coffee shop

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KimberleyClark · 08/08/2025 17:17

DH and went to a local dog friendly coffee shop this afternoon with our neighbour’s two dogs, a golden retriever and a terrier cross who are staying with us for a few days while their owner is away. At a nearby table there was a father with his little girl of five or six who was obviously very scared of the dogs, who are both sweet natured and were just minding their own business and not wandering about or anything. When we got up to leave the little girl ran away into a corner. I suppose he might have been trying to acclimatise her, but if he was he wasn’t going the right way about it, having a chat with us, asking the dogs’ names etc might have been better. AIBU to think that if you know your child is that scared of dogs,a dog friendly cafe is not the best place to take them?

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youalright · 09/08/2025 16:43

Crazymayfly · 09/08/2025 13:22

If you’re addressing me, mine has had a two hour walk early this morning, and then we went to the park on the way here where we had ball/play time for another hour, I fancied a coffee and cake break, and she’s tired and calm so what’s the issue with bringing her with me?

It’s not a case of being selfish - she’s had a lovely day so far (as she does every day). I didn’t get a dog to leave her at home all day. It adds an additional layer of happiness to my life so I make sure I thank her by giving her a full and happy life too.

Why would I be addressing you in haven't quoted your post or tagged you so obviously im talking to op

Hmm1234 · 09/08/2025 17:51

KimberleyClark · 08/08/2025 17:17

DH and went to a local dog friendly coffee shop this afternoon with our neighbour’s two dogs, a golden retriever and a terrier cross who are staying with us for a few days while their owner is away. At a nearby table there was a father with his little girl of five or six who was obviously very scared of the dogs, who are both sweet natured and were just minding their own business and not wandering about or anything. When we got up to leave the little girl ran away into a corner. I suppose he might have been trying to acclimatise her, but if he was he wasn’t going the right way about it, having a chat with us, asking the dogs’ names etc might have been better. AIBU to think that if you know your child is that scared of dogs,a dog friendly cafe is not the best place to take them?

Don’t do it. Children that young are only scared of dogs from behaviour they’ve seen from their parents. It’s funny how toddlers who grew up with pets from birth aren’t normally scared

MarvellousMonsters · 09/08/2025 17:53

KimberleyClark · 08/08/2025 17:31

I accidentally left the word I out of my first sentence. Which should be clear enough, reading the rest of the post,to any one with half a brain.

People who take their dogs to dog friendly places are not doing anything wrong. Incidentally this coffee shop is one of a local chain which is partnered with Guide Dogs and part of their profits goes to them. They have a sign on the door saying “Don’t leave your best friend at home” and sell dog treats. How much more dog friendly could they be?

Honestly the pearl clutching from the ‘dogs are everywhere’ crowd is such an overreaction. With the extra info in this post, regarding the cafe actively encouraging dogs it’s the dad that’s BU to take a scared child to a dog cafe, and if he was trying to acclimatise/expose her to dogs he should’ve been supporting her, talking to her and making sure she sat still and that he was between her and the dogs etc.

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 18:01

YANBU, but that is up to the dad to deal with really in whatever way he sees fit. Maybe for now he was just trying to get his daughter used to being in the same room as dogs. He could be planning on talking to the owners next time. Who knows.

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 18:03

KimberleyClark · 09/08/2025 10:34

When walking my DB’s late black lab, may his beautiful soul rest in peace, I would often get parents, mostly dads, coming up to me and asking if their child could stroke him. He would just sit calmly while the child stroked them, no sudden movements, no attempts to lick them or anything. He was a great dog.

He did indeed sound beautiful.
My mum has a very gentle black greyhound. She has had kids come up to pet him, and the parents were taken aback as they said their child was terrified of dogs. He must have something about him. Even dogs that are scared of other dogs feel safe around him. I

Nevermotivated · 09/08/2025 18:38

You are probably more likely to get sick from the food served to you, than a random dog. A minute of google searching has come up with some "reassuring" figures...Less than 10% of owners get sick from their dog. 0.5 cases of Capnocytophaga sepsis per million might be from a dog licking their face. Probably zero chance of illness if you are passing a dog in a cafe. On the other hand 40-60% of food poisoning cases come from restaurants & cafes.
Also, it's not so easy to be able to sit outside when it's not so popular here in semi rural north Scotland. It's cold 10months of the year, rains all 12mths and is proper windy most days! There are a lot of walkers around here that have dogs. Some tourists also can't/not allowed to leave their dog in their accommodation alone so have to come along.

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 18:41

KimberleyClark · 08/08/2025 17:31

I accidentally left the word I out of my first sentence. Which should be clear enough, reading the rest of the post,to any one with half a brain.

People who take their dogs to dog friendly places are not doing anything wrong. Incidentally this coffee shop is one of a local chain which is partnered with Guide Dogs and part of their profits goes to them. They have a sign on the door saying “Don’t leave your best friend at home” and sell dog treats. How much more dog friendly could they be?

And parents who take their child to cafes also aren’t doing anything wrong. Just because somewhere accepts dogs, doesn’t mean it’s purely for dog owners. Taking a retriever into a cafe is ridiculous.

booksareforlife · 09/08/2025 18:44

BananaCaramel · 09/08/2025 08:26

The first poster has it! Even flipping Costa allows dogs in nowadays. He wasn’t taking her somewhere “dog friendly” on purpose - and bringing a golden retriever into a coffee shop is taking the piss

And yet come the winter time when it's throwing it down, and 2 degrees outside, Costa is completely empty bar the slow trickle of dog walkers stopping by on their walk to get a hot drink to warm up.

Would you rather they close for the day because the business just isn't there from October to March?

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 18:49

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 18:41

And parents who take their child to cafes also aren’t doing anything wrong. Just because somewhere accepts dogs, doesn’t mean it’s purely for dog owners. Taking a retriever into a cafe is ridiculous.

Not a single dog owner has said that dog friendly cafes are just for them. Someone taking a do into a dog friendly cafe is doing nothing wrong.

DarkForces · 09/08/2025 18:52

Dogs like company a lot more than your average poster based on these threads.

Adultautismdiagnosis · 09/08/2025 19:03

Itiswhysofew · 09/08/2025 11:27

There's no dog friendly eateries in the country I live and I think they're missing a trick. They don't even allow them on public transport.

Are there really that many in the UK?

Not as many as some posters like to think there are.

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 19:04

Adultautismdiagnosis · 09/08/2025 19:03

Not as many as some posters like to think there are.

And even the dog friendly places are not overrun with dogs.

Adultautismdiagnosis · 09/08/2025 19:05

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 19:04

And even the dog friendly places are not overrun with dogs.

Very true

Buffs · 09/08/2025 19:06

How the father is parenting his child is not your business. Her reaction didn’t cause you a lot of inconvenience.

FluffyWabbit · 09/08/2025 19:13

UsernameMcUsername · 09/08/2025 13:52

This reminds me of an older woman a few doors down who has one of those 'Dogs welcome, people tolerated' signs on her door. She does however manage to tolerate the people who keep her alive by dropping off her prescriptions, delivering her shopping and sorting out her numerous medical needs, presumably because her terriers have sadly yet to master those skills.

I love dog people. They're just so wise and blunt.

cheesycheesy · 09/08/2025 19:20

I think dog people can’t make human friends. Dogs aren’t discerning when it comes to personality

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 19:21

cheesycheesy · 09/08/2025 19:20

I think dog people can’t make human friends. Dogs aren’t discerning when it comes to personality

That is shite. Many people who have dogs have kids and lots of friends.

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 19:24

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 18:49

Not a single dog owner has said that dog friendly cafes are just for them. Someone taking a do into a dog friendly cafe is doing nothing wrong.

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Taking a retriever (that’s big, hairy, dribbles and food motivated) into a cafe isn’t a sensible thing to do. Yes, the cafe has said yes to dogs but common sense should still prevail. In the same way as you wouldn’t want a Great Dane in a cafe.

Im looking forward to the time when cafes stop accepting animals, which I’m confident will happen at some point.

FluffyWabbit · 09/08/2025 19:27

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 19:24

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Taking a retriever (that’s big, hairy, dribbles and food motivated) into a cafe isn’t a sensible thing to do. Yes, the cafe has said yes to dogs but common sense should still prevail. In the same way as you wouldn’t want a Great Dane in a cafe.

Im looking forward to the time when cafes stop accepting animals, which I’m confident will happen at some point.

I 100% agree that misbehaving dogs should not be in cafes but I also think misbehaving kids should stay home, too. I will die on this hill.

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 19:28

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 19:24

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Taking a retriever (that’s big, hairy, dribbles and food motivated) into a cafe isn’t a sensible thing to do. Yes, the cafe has said yes to dogs but common sense should still prevail. In the same way as you wouldn’t want a Great Dane in a cafe.

Im looking forward to the time when cafes stop accepting animals, which I’m confident will happen at some point.

Oh, that cliched old line 🙄
The cafe OP was in is part of a chain that welcomes dogs and raises money for Guide Dogs. How big are guide dogs?... retriever size, maybe 😉

DarkForces · 09/08/2025 19:31

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 19:24

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Taking a retriever (that’s big, hairy, dribbles and food motivated) into a cafe isn’t a sensible thing to do. Yes, the cafe has said yes to dogs but common sense should still prevail. In the same way as you wouldn’t want a Great Dane in a cafe.

Im looking forward to the time when cafes stop accepting animals, which I’m confident will happen at some point.

Yeah. Good luck with that when businesses are seeing significant boost to their profits by becoming dog friendly.

BonBon20 · 09/08/2025 19:38

Oaktree1952 · 09/08/2025 09:43

I have this problem. My daughter is terrified, screaming, crying etc whenever she sees a dog. Dog owners are as a general rule selfish people you assume everyone is going to love their dog because they do. Finding a dog unfriendly place is very hard. All these dog friendly places are also people friendly places and I think dog owners need to remember that as well. Country parks, beaches, play parks and now apparently cafes are all for people and not just somewhere to take a dog.

One of the most incredible, sweeping generalisations I’ve ever come across 😆. Wow.

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 19:39

YeOldeGreyhound · 09/08/2025 19:28

Oh, that cliched old line 🙄
The cafe OP was in is part of a chain that welcomes dogs and raises money for Guide Dogs. How big are guide dogs?... retriever size, maybe 😉

Do you not understand the training guide dogs undertake? Are you really so simple to compare guide dogs with random retrievers?

Fannyanne88 · 09/08/2025 19:40

I wouldnt necessarily be aware if a place was dog friendly, like today, when i ended up in a cafe with my toddler, which was filled with dogs. I love dogs but some people dont and you dont know if theyve had bad experiences in the past. Not everyone is a responsible dog owner so judging the dad by his reaction seems a bit harsh.

DarkForces · 09/08/2025 19:43

SunnySideDeepDown · 09/08/2025 19:39

Do you not understand the training guide dogs undertake? Are you really so simple to compare guide dogs with random retrievers?

Coffi Lab's raison d'etre is being a place you can get a decent coffee and being dog friendly. Moaning about finding a dog in coffi lab is like moaning there's a child in soft play 😂