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To think my landlord is a spiteful dickhead

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 09:21

At this point im thinking my landlord is just a spiteful dickhead, I'll go into as much detail as possible here.
Earlier this year I was sent a section 21 notice out of nowhere, I questioned this and the landlord said because of significant damages to the property I have to leave. Now I have evidence that these significant damages are not my fault, I had the environmental health in because I was fed up of living in a shit hole basically, the whole house needs ripping out and fixing including floorboards and external doors according to the local council who did the inspection, the landlord also has to take up an asbestos survey due to damaged ceiling in the hallway.
I have 3 kids I the house, one is additional needs. I was offered a house by a housing association and I accepted, im yet to get the keys but the house was on major repair, I said this to the current landlord who said they were happy to let me wait it out, no repairs have done either by the current landlord as per the council report. They took me to court to evict me even though theyd said I could stay until my house was ready, ive never been behind on rent always paid in full and on time, a week ago the landlord turned up completely unannounced banging on the door I opened the door and I was told I should've moved out by now as the court stated the 25th july, I told them to get a warrant for eviction and come back with bailiffs, as of yet I haven't heard anything from the bailiffs. I emailed expressing that they didnt give any notice and they turned up with keys to let themselves in and since I haven't returned keys or made them aware that ive moved it was completely unacceptable. They stated that they sent a letter, they never did as ive still not recieved this magic letter they apparently sent. Anyway every single day they are emailing me asking for keys to be returned and I keep telling them I will return the keys once I have moved. At this point I just think they are being absolute dickheads. I hopefully should get the keys to the new property today.
Wibu to move and then throw they keys into their office in an envelope and leave without saying a word.

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DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:17

Difficult one tbh

If I was a landlord with a property that needed significant repairs I’d want to get them done
Without children around
Particularly if there’s asbestos around which nearly all older properties have

As a tenant I wouldn’t want my kids around whilst that’s ongoing either

Im guessing as the landlord knows how long s21s take he’s moving forward to regardless. He’ll be allowing time for you not moving out at the end of the s21 and then having to go back to court to get the bayliffs out.

Perhaps he’s assuming the works on your new property will be given a kick start if you have a s21.

In a Wierd way this could get your new property sorted sooner

Just trying to put a positive spin on things

SecretNameAsImShy · 08/08/2025 12:18

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Wow, people can be so nasty. @DysgraphiaQueen you should be ashamed of yourself!

spoonbillstretford · 08/08/2025 12:19

ThejoyofNC · 08/08/2025 11:16

You're taking the piss. You keep saying he told you that you could stay, he's made it pretty damn clear that he wants you out so that's completely irrelevant.

Tough shit for the landlord, the OP is waiting to move into a new place and is paying rent, where are she and her three kids supposed to go in the meantime?

He should try letting somewhere actually habitable and not rotting and full of mould. Boo fucking hoo if he loses out a bit of rental income.

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:20

Katemax82 · 08/08/2025 12:02

Surely this is the only way to get emergency accommodation

Only if you’re made legally homeless. That only happens once the bayliffs move in to evict you. That’s not at the end date of the s21. It’s a further process

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 12:20

SecretNameAsImShy · 08/08/2025 12:18

Wow, people can be so nasty. @DysgraphiaQueen you should be ashamed of yourself!

Boohoo, may be people who call others cunts should be prepared to be treated just the same.

Ashamed no i'm proud of what I have achieved thanks. I took some personal responsibility and made my life better, I see no shame in that.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 12:24

CopperWhite · 08/08/2025 12:10

It is irrelevant that you have paid the rent you owe, that doesn’t entitle you to stay until it suits you. The landlord can’t just hang around waiting if he has to have builders in to do repairs. You are costing him money when you are not his responsibility. You are the council’s responsibility, and they can house you temporarily.

And if op was to leave before bailiffs the council will end their duty and not put her in temporary accommodation as she will be classed as making herself homeless as she had a place she could legally stay.

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:26

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 12:12

Regardless of how you arrived here, are you not in contempt of court by not moving on the 25th July. That's a lot more serious than being out of contract, surely?

No it’s not contempt of court
Housing associations, local councils and Shelter advice tenants to stay on ( mad isn’t it ) if they can’t find somewhere to move to

Then the landlord has to go back to court to get permission to use bayliffs to evict the tenants.
On that date the tenants become homeless and only then will the council house them because only then are they officially homeless

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:28

spoonbillstretford · 08/08/2025 12:19

Tough shit for the landlord, the OP is waiting to move into a new place and is paying rent, where are she and her three kids supposed to go in the meantime?

He should try letting somewhere actually habitable and not rotting and full of mould. Boo fucking hoo if he loses out a bit of rental income.

None of your comments solve anything
The landlord has a legal right.

Moana987 · 08/08/2025 12:29

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 12:09

Its the system not the tenant. Tenant doesn't want to go through eviction anymore than the landlord does. Blame the council

They could just move out then if they would like to avoid it....

Thelittleweasel · 08/08/2025 12:29

@3kiddosandme

Did you go to the Court hearing? With all your documents [photos of damage and so on]. The bailiffs - if from High Court - can [and probably will] attend without any notice early in the morning.

Aspidistree · 08/08/2025 12:30

It is just horrendous that people are put in the position of having to disobey legal notices or the council won't help them. It's the definition of stressful and I'm so sorry you are having to go through it.

I really hope you get your new house today and can start to move on with your life. Whatever state you get it in, it'll be yours and this distressing situation will be over.

Moana987 · 08/08/2025 12:32

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:13

I'm sure a few of you are. No one who's opinion I'm bothered about though.

For avoidance of doubt, following correct legal process doesn't make you cunt. Treating private rental tenants like lepers, does.

Just the same as I'm not bothered about what you think.

Tenants should vacate someone else's property when given notice instead of being a cunt and clinging on until the very end. Same old low lifes that do this.

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:32

DiscoBob · 08/08/2025 12:03

What?! Her house was completely falling apart because the landlord refused to do anything. To the point environmental health needed to be involved. And they still haven't commenced work to make it liveable. Slumlord. Scum.

How can you defend this?

Dealing with asbestos whilst a property is occupied is very dangerous
In fact I’d say almost impossible

The landlord could be opening himself up to court cases and manslaughter charges if the tenants become ill down the line

Safer to end the tenancy now and make the property safe.

Imisscoffee2021 · 08/08/2025 12:33

Surprised at the interrogation you're getting op, why doesn't the landlord take some responsibility and rent out a house with comfortable liveable conditions? Must want it sold. Typical to pass blame on to tenant, I see you're between a rock and a hard place.

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:34

Thelittleweasel · 08/08/2025 12:29

@3kiddosandme

Did you go to the Court hearing? With all your documents [photos of damage and so on]. The bailiffs - if from High Court - can [and probably will] attend without any notice early in the morning.

Tenants are given two weeks notice and an actual date that bayliffs will be attending

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:34

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Despite being told twice they had a full time job? that was your response?

DiscoBob · 08/08/2025 12:35

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:32

Dealing with asbestos whilst a property is occupied is very dangerous
In fact I’d say almost impossible

The landlord could be opening himself up to court cases and manslaughter charges if the tenants become ill down the line

Safer to end the tenancy now and make the property safe.

Maybe so but he shouldn't have been letting it out in such a condition in the first place.

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:35

Moana987 · 08/08/2025 12:32

Just the same as I'm not bothered about what you think.

Tenants should vacate someone else's property when given notice instead of being a cunt and clinging on until the very end. Same old low lifes that do this.

Not if the law says that isn't the correct way for a landlord to gain possession. Which lowlifes? The one's that can't find somewhere else to live through no fault of their own, or the ones that have no hope of social rented accomodation?

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 12:38

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:34

Tenants are given two weeks notice and an actual date that bayliffs will be attending

It was done without a hearing, but I sent back a defence form and all pictures and evidence but I dont think they even looked at it to be honest

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ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 12:39

OP your ‘entitlement’ is quite simply outrageous.

louderthan · 08/08/2025 12:39

Lavender14 · 08/08/2025 11:18

It's also very possible the landlord is evicting op to try and avoid being held accountable by environmental health for the structural and health related issues in the property and take on a new tenant without spending on doing proper repairs. This happens far more than it should. We don't know that op has caused eviction worthy damage.

This exact thing happened to my neighbours: they complained about damp (they had a newborn baby); LL evicted them, and new tenants moved in within less than a week. The damp has most definitely not been sorted.

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 08/08/2025 12:39

Lemonadeat8 · 08/08/2025 10:55

If the new keys are ready today make post the landlords through the letterbox once you’ve moved your stuff.

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OP, also date stamp the envelope and take a photo of it being posted through the letterbox.

MtJaro · 08/08/2025 12:40

@3kiddosandme

Has your LL protected your deposit in a scheme?

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 12:40

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:35

Not if the law says that isn't the correct way for a landlord to gain possession. Which lowlifes? The one's that can't find somewhere else to live through no fault of their own, or the ones that have no hope of social rented accomodation?

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Would you rent your property to OP?

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:43

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 12:40

Would you rent your property to OP?

Based on the information I have available, I'd have no reason not to. She hasn't done anything unlawful. And I'd certainly be glad of a tenant who paid rent on time and in full for years on end, while not having to maintain the property to any sort of decent standard.