Bloody bastard weight loss

[Shabang21]

Help please!

I’m so bloody sick of feeling like shit, being constantly tired, aching, jumping from one weight loss thing to another and literally getting NOWHERE. Besides stapling my mouth shut, what can I do? I look around and SO MANY people are dropping weight by the tonne, they surely can’t all be on weight loss jabs, cos they’re so expensive?

I have tried; Keto, slim fast, exante, slimming world, weight watchers, fast 800, calorie counting. It starts promising ish, but nothing seems to stick?

So please, let me know what worked for you, and if it’s even worth bothering now; I’ve been trying to shift weight for 15 years, all I’ve done is got heavier and I’m so sick of this shit!!

It’s not for everyone, but the difference for me was working with a weight loss coach for about six months.

The key was working on my mindset around food, why I overate, and focussing on what I wanted to achieve (health over weight loss for me), the coach helped me work thought what I needed to, tools to achieve it and held me to account.

Accepting that it’d be a slow and steady process and not a quick fix was one of the most important changes for me, as well stopping the ‘all or nothing’/ ‘good food bad food’ mindset.

I lost three stone last year and am keeping it off, my life feels completely different. I still enjoy food, meals out etc but am now confident in my ability to do that whilst maintaining my overall health / weight goals.

I found the coaching programme via instagram, I followed a number of coaches initially until I found one whose approach I resonated with and then took the plunge. It was about £50 a month so not the cheapest but so pleased I made the investment (I know I’m lucky to be in a position to be able to do that).

I'm on WLI and have lost almost 3st in the last 6 months, so not a fast loser but it's been easy. The want for bread and crisps, and takeaways have gone which were my down fall. Yes, they aren't cheap, but once I take off the amount I would have spent on takeaways it works out cheaper. It is a lifestyle change. Although I've been away this week for work and not many healthy choices available to eat out at. So I'll probably see a gain this week. But no big deal, I'll be back on the healthy eating from Friday night- my old mentality would have been 'oh well I've blown it now might as well binge'. Now I know a blip in the road I can come back from. Luckily for me my dp is also on them and has lost 2 stone. He started after seeing the results I had. So that's been easier as we now think about the meals we have. Food for fuel and pleasure- Not just pleasure. My dc have been supportive except for me replacing things like white pasta and white bread with whole meal lol.

OP your situation is the very reason weight loss jabs were developed. Despite the numerous and predictable posts on this thread saying 'just do this, have you tried that' the fact remains that around 95% of weight loss attempts fail. And science has finally concluded that that's not because 95% of fat people are weak, useless and stupid. It's because of biology / bodyweight set point.

I was in your situation until March. Trying every weight loss method under the sun for 30 years! And my reward for all those years of calorie counting, fasting, clean eating, low carbing, slimming worlding? Morbid obesity. 17 stone, BMI 42. I've now lost 3 stone on mounjaro and know with complete confidence I'll get down to my goal weight. The plan then is so stay on the jabs for a further 2 years until my set point has adjusted.

Ah, gotta love the ‘just eat less, move more’ brigade. OP, there are quite a lot of credible studies which indicate that obese people have a hormonal imbalance. Weight can creep up slowly over the years and the more overweight you become, the more you can develop insulin resistance. So for many they get stuck in this revolving door of being able to diet for a few days (or a few weeks) but end up thinking about food CONSTANTLY because your body is not balanced correctly. Diets often fail because your body is working against you.

The solution is to radically overhaul eating and exercise and if you want to, take GLP-1 to help with that. I see GLP-1 as a way to ‘pause’ the endless revolving door. It gives me space to restructure my eating and exercise and corrects the hormonal imbalance without constantly obsessing about food. Yes, you can do it without the meds but the struggle is way, way harder. Personally, why not lean into advances in medicine? No one ever tells smokers they’re not allowed nicotine patches or that drug addicts are not allowed methadone. They’re all seen as useful tools in the fight against addiction.

I’ve been on MJ for 3 months and it’s been brilliant. I eat lots of protein, drink water, exercise and I feel so, so much better. Worth every penny.

My mum's been following fad diets for 60 years and isn't any slimmer than when she started. Every time I spy a Slim Fast shake in her otherwise sensible fridge, i want to scream. Fad diets don't work, and it sounds like you've done them all, OP.

I've never been on a diet, but I manage my weight (8st 11) by eating 3 meals a day of whole, unprocessed foods in sensible portion sizes, 2 snacks (typically a small dark chocolate bar and apple slices with peanut butter), and 2 milky coffees - and then maybe a pizza or Indian takeaway and bottle of wine over the weekend.

The massive difference between someone like me (a non dieter with a healthy relationship with food) and my mum (a fad dieter with an unhealthy relationship with food), is if I have a day of indulgence (let's say I go to a wedding and have loads of canapés, cake, and champagne) I just wake up the next day, don't give it a thought, and carry on as normal. There's no punishing myself or trying to mitigate the impact, or going in the opposite direction and thinking 'fuck it, I may as well get down the chippy'.

How you untangle years of the fad diet mentality though, I don't know.

Diets don't work long term, if they did WW's and SW wouldn't have to rely on repeat customers to keep the business model going.

People are losing weight now by investing in the jabs. That's for life though, as you are not addressing the reason why you're overweight or obese in the first place.

If I were you, I would try counselling or hypnotherapy.

Finding the reason why it's so hard for you is the key. Identify your triggers and the reason you put food before health.

This is advice I'm trying to follow myself, so I know how hard it is.

My mum suffers from depression. I don't. The main difference between me and her is that when I feel a bit down in the dumps I give myself a talking to, pull myself together, go for a nice walk and start to feel much better. We're all different! We've all got different brains!

Weight comes off when you eat less than your body needs. If you've done all the diets you'll know that's actually very little.

The jab doesn't stop you eating carbs, wine, UPG or calories but it does take away the desire to stick it in your mouth constantly.

The jabs don't make you pile the weight back on. People just go back to eating and drinking as they did before the jab

But that's NOT sustainable for most people. There's another thread running right now about how do people work, raise kids, have a lovely home and garden and look after themselves. Weighing food, checking and logging macros, varied and tracked exercise regimes..it's just another thing to do.

I'm afraid OP, I'm also going to say it's been WLI that have allowed me for the first time in decades to shift weight. I'm v short and peri so my calories to lose weight are around the 1000 mark, if not lower. I'm losing v slowly on a low dose of MJ. As a pp said, if you work it out per week and look at what you are saving on alcohol and snacks, it's not bad at all..and worth it. I don't track and log statistics, but I know that protein yoghurts, smoothies or brown toast and peanut butter for breakfast is fine. Rice cakes, chicken, salad, nuts, etc for lunch and protein and veg for dinner. I don't have to certain it. All the WLI do is regulate hunger hormones. They do not melt the fat off. You do have to make significant changes but it's easier to do. I actually feel like this could be it now..that I've got myself to a point over several months where my habits are established and I'll continue this way once i reach my healthy weight. I'm only losing about 1 a week but that's 4 stone in a year.

I've had almost no side effects at all and my blood results are improving all the time.

I know it's old fashioned and people will argue it's not correct, but my experience is it really is eat less move more.

Both DP and I have lost a stone (him more, but he had more to lose) in the last 6 weeks by cutting out alcohol and snacking, making an effort to eat real food, not processed or takeaway stuff, limiting refined sugar (cakes biscuits etc) to once a day at weekends only and walking everywhere. It amazing how easily you cover 10 miles in a day when you don't use the car.

It doesn't feel like a diet, is enjoyable to do and genuinely feels good for health in a way "diets" don't.

I'm curious- do the jabs work for people who don't struggle with hunger cues etc but just eat out of greed and boredom, sometimes just having something nice for the taste of it regardless of whether hungry or not? Like I will have a mini cheesecake if I am beside the fridge but I couldn't be arsed to go downstairs or into another room for one. Do the jabs make you feel unpleasantly full the way stomach reduction surgeries are said to? Or do they mostly help people who feel hungry all the time, rather than just eating from boredom?

The jabs just sort of turn it all off, you feel fuller quicker when eating but for me not in an uncomfortable way, more in a brain says no more bites kind of way. And yes, very little eating out of boredom, just very easy not to eat things. I don’t drink but people say it’s not attractive to them on jabs.

Have a look at Slimpod. It’s about changing your mindset not another boom and bust diet. I’m sure the weight loss injections work well but if you don’t change your mindset and habits too the money is likely to be wasted.

This 100%

The basic equation I used was 1 pound of weight is equivalent to 3500 calories.
So you only have to reduce intake/increase activity for 500 calories a day to produce 1 pound a week weight loss. (dont go for anything too extreme) I aimed for 1500 cals /day

Dont work to the last 5 colories when working out what 500 colories looks like, just look for the big numbers. ( a spreadsheet was useful in doing it) .
Dont buy anything too calorific to go in the larder then you wont be tempted to nibble/snack.

Yes. You just lose interest in eating for fun. I would still think " oh I fancy a burger" type craving but once I'd had a bite or two that would be enough. I wouldn't feel the need to keep eating it in unless actually hungry.

Quite happy to not eat until the next meal. No need to feel the void with a biscuit.

But not all of us react like that. I still get plenty of food noise and hunger, and I can still eat big meals. It does help my willpower, but I still have to put a good amount of effort into it too.

Years ago I did Lighter Life. It was very restrictive but it worked. I went on their maintenance programme for a few months. I have kept most of the weight off. If I feel I am putting on weight.( I no longer weigh myself ) i order a few packs and try again. Oh and I no longer by any diet food or low fat. Just everything in moderation.

It’s simple as calories in vs calories out. I’ve lost 2.5 stone this year from calorie counting. I’m meticulous about it, count everything I eat and drink and know that I am likely to be doing some form of calorie counting forever.
Im ok with that because I feel great and am back in a size 12 clothing
I didn’t want to do weight loss jabs but I also didn’t want to be the biggest in my group or office so went back to basics

Yes. Exactly that. Almost instantly. I was sat down for the evening when I would usually have had some cheese and biscuits or popcorn, wandered out the kitchen and just thought, I actually don't want this. Sat in a coffee shop with others having a cake and just didn't fancy it.

My mum doesn't have depression. She's literally just a fad dieter and a product of 1970s diet culture. Mental health doesn't have to come into everything.

Something else I've noticed over the years about people trying and failing to lose weight is this desire to feel 'full' all the time and to never have a rumbling stomach.

Food choices are often made based on what will fill them up the most and for the longest.

I think it's important to know that it's OK to feel hungry for a couple of hours between meals, or for half an hour while you cook dinner, or whatever. It's OK to have a rumbling stomach, in this Western world of abundance. It won't kill you.

I just started by looking at what i was eating and what small changes i could make. I did lots of research into what issues I'm having and seeing what foods might help. My main issues were bloating and fluctuating weight. I find volume eating works well for me. Results are slower but I've consistently lost or maintained my weight. I eat a lot of eggs, keifir, saurktaut and vegetables. For meat I go with chicken, turkey, prawns, white fish or lean beef. Carbs are mostly potatoes or cous cous but i still eat chips/rice/pasta just in smaller portions. I tend to avoid smoothies, cereal bars, and foods with added protein. I make all dinners and sauces from scratch so I know exactly what's in them. I get walks in any day I can get the time. I feel a lot better and enjoy the food more now. Hope you find what works for you best of luck.

Yes. I bought my favourite chocolates and know they are in the cupboard but don’t think about them. They aren't calling my name telling me to eat them. I also boredom ate which I don’t do now. I am impressed with wli so far but haven’t saved any money on food because I didn’t have takeouts or ready meals beforehand so the only bits I had to stack on weight were snacks that I buy for my family anyway, so not massively saving money for me. It’s nice to not want chocolate or cake or biscuits or crisps because for the first time in a long time I feel full. I’d lost that feeling!

I love Paul McKenna but my problem with the hypnosis at home is the lack of will power to actually listen to the regularly enough for them to work! Maybe he should have a hypnosis tape to combat that!🤣