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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be annoyed with both my friend and my husband

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JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 17:47

Been friends with a lady in my local community since she moved here about 4 years ago now to the neighbourhood , same ages DC , both of us working women, and a common group of girlfriends in the neighbourhood. Have done girls night's out in the past, and one trip last year with four ladies in total, with our family

Bunch of us planned a holiday with our family's in tow, for various reasons the three other ladies cancelled - and it ended up being us two away together with DHs and Kids.

So, when we planned it, it was self catering large caravans next to each other at this place that had stunning views and spectacular reviews. As DHs were going to be doing all the driving and some of the outdoorsy camp stuff with the kids, we agreed we would do the cooking. With the trip being only two nights away, we had agreed on bringing homemade food each of us for night 1 and to eat it all together, and to cook something simple for night 2.

Turns out I ended up bringing a huger amount of food for night 1 (the mains) but thought it sort of evened out as we ate inside, at theirs , as it was damp at night - there were two pots used to heat the food and we did leave the washing up of that to them - I left the leftovers with her and I think they warmed it up for breakfast the next morning , while I made some breakfast for us in our own caravan before we set out on activities for the day which again involved a lot of hill side driving which was done by the two DHs.

Turns out and I only found out on morning of day 2 that DH had offered to make them dinner on night 2 - now this annoyed me straight off the bat. It is an elaborate dish but one that DH loves , so it was partly for himself , but still I felt it upset the balanced planning I had in my mind. When he told me about it morning of day 2, I said fine , I hadnt unpacked my reaction yet so decided to go with it for then in order to let day 2 run smoothly and gracefully with the kids having fun as per the plan , and avoiding arguments seemed key. I wasnt happy about it though. It was a dish I hated to eat first off, I can't stand that particular type of fish cooked in that way and he knew that, but he also knew I would eat it if I had to. The original plan was for me and her to cook something simple together with the work divided among the two of us. In my mind, I had already done equal or more on night 1 with leaving a big box of leftovers for her for day 2 breakfast while I didnt take back any leftovers for us for morning after.

When i mentioned to her that DH planned to make dinner on night 2 and that rest of us could help out with prep etc, she answered extremely enthusiastically 'yes he said he was going to cook his fabulous xx for us tonight , wow etc' just seemed a bit odd to me as she knew I do not like that dish , but not her fault, DHs fault primarily . So let it slide

We had to leave the evening activities earlier to go get the ingredients for the elaborate dish, so I think the resentment against DH and her were building inside for me at that point. In retrospect, she could have offered that she and her DH do the shop as my DH was lead chef ? He does do his share of the cooking at home , but usually I have to nag for it to be 50pc though we both work ( a repeating theme on MN i Know) so to me , this reiterated the fact that he sometimes flirts or likes the ego boost of admiration of women, nothing new that I havent spotted already in the past 15 years with him but it has been harmless flirting in the past , never gets to affair stage, but is still low key annoying as I feel esp on holiday me and DC should have been his priority and it is annoying when he is seeking ego massaging as being seen as a great guy from my circle of lady friends instead of fucking off to do it with women at work (sorry for the langauge , but this is inconsiderate and lazy even when 'harmless')

anyway, he made the dinner, with both her and her DH helping as they can stand the smell and look of this type of fish dish, so ended up her H had no rest after a day of driving either thanks to DH changing the plan. She wasn't really doing that much with her DH helping mine , but I noticed on this trip more than I have in the past she likes to project manage and boss everyone around quite a lot , even when she's not doing a great deal herself, it had not been this noticeable in the past , if at all.

I kept the kids entertained in the open plan kitchen/dining and living area while the dinner was being made. Turns out they added too much of spice and flavour to the dish (it is not clear to me why or who's idea that was, as DH always adds just the right amount , never too much heat) and it ended up being inedible for my dc, and my husband cant eat spicy either, so he barely ate either. All of us ended up having mostly just the starters which was ready made and I popped in the oven for us, while their family enjoyed the spicy meal and also had two boxes of leftovers - presumably they were sorted for the long road trip back the next day as the plan to have lunch at an inn on the way back was turned down in a vague manner by them saying kids were fast asleep ( I figured they were eating the leftovers in the car while on the road, as wouldnt be starving the whole day ?)

We proceeded with the inn for lunch etc on our own.

So the above had me annoyed with both DH and friend, and not sure if AIBU?
I have long suspected DH is ND and on the spectrum which complicates it, as he doesnt see planning and organising as crucial the way I do.

The other thing is and perhaps this ties into him being ND, although maybe this is just overgrown teen boy behaviour unnacceptable for a grown man, but when we were at a pub lunch on day 2 - I went to get something from the car, and DH hid my mobile phone I think when I left it on the table at my seat, as a funny joke he says. When I came back in and couldnt see it there, I knew it was probably him and felt embarrased by the clownish act in front of friends, was searching for it just in case it fell off the table, while asking him whether he took my purse , and I noticed friend laughing (at me presumably as was in on the joke) when I was asking if anyone had seen my purse. What kind of 40 plus year old finds this a funny trick to play ? and what kind of 40 year old finds this laughable ?

Read him the riot act for this on the drive back home and he claims it was a funny joke and I was getting too serious. I actually felt a couple of times on the trip that the only other adult was her DH , and there was one incident when she told him off in the kitchen for dropping a utensil on the floor where I felt sorry for him. I actually felt a spark of ..like?....for him when he reacted so gracefully and classily in my mind to her embarrassing outburst. Absolutely not letting it upset him or reacting likewise.

AIBU to be kinda put off by both H and friend for the purse incident too ?
I think I can get liking someone , or feeling a spark, as long as harmless, and no intention to pursue it , we are all human. So okay, to offer to make a dish (him) or laugh (perhaps in embarrassment or not knowing what else to do) (her) for a silly joke.....but I think I am more put off by the fact, that she would not maybe make a quick pasta or something morning off the return to offer me some packed food for the road trip back, or something thoughtful and nice to even things nicely ?

And H needs to grow up re the purse hiding thing , disgusting, thats not even in the AIBU question, that has to be unfunny and disrespectful right ?

OP posts:
ClaredeBear · 05/08/2025 21:31

SriouslyWhutNow · 05/08/2025 18:16

I've finally found a use for ChatGPT, it's summed it up in 3 bullets as follows:
Imbalanced effort and changing plans: She felt the division of labour on the trip was uneven—she brought most of the food for night 1, and then her husband unexpectedly offered to cook an elaborate dish (which she dislikes) for night 2, changing the agreed plan where both women were to cook something simple together. This left her feeling overlooked and annoyed.
Frustration with dynamics and perceived attention-seeking: She was irritated by her husband’s tendency to seek admiration from her friend, and noticed her friend seemed to encourage it. She also became increasingly frustrated by the friend’s bossy, project-manager style without doing much herself, and was disappointed by the lack of small thoughtful gestures, like offering food for the return journey.
Purse/phone “joke” incident and emotional response: When her husband hid her phone as a “joke” in front of the group, she felt embarrassed and disrespected—especially when the friend laughed along. This immaturity contrasted sharply with the calm and considerate behaviour of the friend’s husband, which she unexpectedly found herself admiring.
I still can't tell if YABU or not, but ChatGPT seems to think YANBU. 🤷

Edited

😂😂😂 I just did the same thing.

Floatingdownriver · 05/08/2025 21:31
  • everyoen. Not cotton. Also OP, you came on and asked for advice so stop moaning when everyone is rightly telling you that you were in the wrong.
JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:31

TeenLifeMum · 05/08/2025 21:30

You’re on holiday with friends and keeping a mental tally over evenness of job roles/effort. That sounds exhausting. I’m all for fairness but your dh offered to cook, which is fine. If it’s something you don’t like then why didn’t you just get something different for you and dc without all this drama and expectation friend and dh will read your mind and understand you’re secretly seething but not communicating at all. The plan changed, get over it.

I suppose.....

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UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:32

Mm sure you "changed details" not to be outing and aren't not changing them because no one sides with you...

Feeling bullied because of a joke? Crying yourself to sleep?

Sure

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:33

Floatingdownriver · 05/08/2025 21:31

  • everyoen. Not cotton. Also OP, you came on and asked for advice so stop moaning when everyone is rightly telling you that you were in the wrong.

I'm not doing that floating .....I did come on here for views, and I am taking it on board, I overreacted perhaps in my head, and now I will let this slide, but stay wary. The PP calling me batshit crazy felt excessive

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BlankBlankBlank14 · 05/08/2025 21:36

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:33

I'm not doing that floating .....I did come on here for views, and I am taking it on board, I overreacted perhaps in my head, and now I will let this slide, but stay wary. The PP calling me batshit crazy felt excessive

Crying yourself to sleep is very extreme!

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:37

SECTION 3: The Phone-Hiding Incident
Brenda:
This wasn’t a joke. This was your husband publicly making you the butt of a joke. A woman juggling kids, logistics, food prep and social planning doesn’t need her phone hidden “for fun.” It’s cruel. It made you look frazzled and foolish in front of others.
And she laughed. She laughed at you.
Frank:
This is how toxic dynamics work in groups. One person (him) sets the bait — something meant to embarrass or destabilise you — and another (her) laughs along instead of stepping in or offering support. The message is: “You’re alone here. We’re the cool ones.” That’s emotional isolation, masked as banter.
This joke wasn’t random. It was targeted. And it worked — you felt embarrassed, not amused. That tells you everything.

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UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:38

Og more AI bullshit

It's telling you what you want to hear. Stop.

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:38

BlankBlankBlank14 · 05/08/2025 21:36

Crying yourself to sleep is very extreme!

just tired of the same ole happening for 15 years, I didnt post the backstory given how verbose I was over just the most recent incident, and I wanted this holiday to be judged on it's own facts, with no backstory diluting it

If I said he has hit me in the past, there would be no point posting about the current incident for an opinion on it

OP posts:
JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:39

Anyway thanks all for your contributions, and good night.

OP posts:
BlankBlankBlank14 · 05/08/2025 21:41

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:38

just tired of the same ole happening for 15 years, I didnt post the backstory given how verbose I was over just the most recent incident, and I wanted this holiday to be judged on it's own facts, with no backstory diluting it

If I said he has hit me in the past, there would be no point posting about the current incident for an opinion on it

The backstory may take a while….

If he’s hit you, this is irrelevant and you shouldn’t be with him anyway.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:41

Changing the story again

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:42

You lot would laugh at a friend worriedly searching for her phone , knowing her husband is sat there hiding the phone ? I have elderly parents who wait for my texts and calls....

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JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:44

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:41

Changing the story again

He also fat shamed me a lot the weekend when it was just us and our DC.

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UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:45

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:42

You lot would laugh at a friend worriedly searching for her phone , knowing her husband is sat there hiding the phone ? I have elderly parents who wait for my texts and calls....

I left my phone on the table and my parents (in their 60s) used it to take loads of selfies and hid it 🤷♀️

If it started ringing you'd know where it was and be able to answer it

And he was hardly going to keep it forever 😒

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:47

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:45

I left my phone on the table and my parents (in their 60s) used it to take loads of selfies and hid it 🤷♀️

If it started ringing you'd know where it was and be able to answer it

And he was hardly going to keep it forever 😒

And you think this is normal behaviour for a man in his 40s ?

I think he was giddy around my friend and she was lapping it up

Anything in a skirt, apparently, these days, it's getting harder to ignore, and he will never admit it

OP posts:
UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:47

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:44

He also fat shamed me a lot the weekend when it was just us and our DC.

Discovery Sharks GIF by Shark Week

Mm sure

Sure he did

Here's some sharks to jump

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:48

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:47

And you think this is normal behaviour for a man in his 40s ?

I think he was giddy around my friend and she was lapping it up

Anything in a skirt, apparently, these days, it's getting harder to ignore, and he will never admit it

Again. Parents. 60s.

I don't think having a laugh has an age limit

But keep just changing the story up

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:48

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:47

Mm sure

Sure he did

Here's some sharks to jump

why would anyone make this up , posting anonymously on the internet ? Genuinely curious

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LondonLady1980 · 05/08/2025 21:48

Gmala · 05/08/2025 18:11

Mate you've just written war and peace about your husband cooking dinner. Catch a grip, respectfully.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

OP you seriously need to chill out!

How on earth can you create so much angst over the equality of cooking meals on a two night trip!

Madness.

CaptainFuture · 05/08/2025 21:49

Am getting shades of another dramatic, never in the wrong, highly emotional and needy poster...who's I think just stopped posting in her plethora of threads about her poor belagured boyfriend.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 21:49

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:48

why would anyone make this up , posting anonymously on the internet ? Genuinely curious

People literally post any old crap online to enjoy getting a reaction

It happens all the time here

HelloHattie · 05/08/2025 21:49

I need to know what the elaborate fish dish was.

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:50

CaptainFuture · 05/08/2025 21:49

Am getting shades of another dramatic, never in the wrong, highly emotional and needy poster...who's I think just stopped posting in her plethora of threads about her poor belagured boyfriend.

can you share the link pls, looks like I have a lot in common with this other OP

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littlejo67 · 05/08/2025 21:51

Respectfully you sound very inflexible. You have wound yourself up. Try to look at different perspectives to control your negative filter.

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