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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be annoyed with both my friend and my husband

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JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 17:47

Been friends with a lady in my local community since she moved here about 4 years ago now to the neighbourhood , same ages DC , both of us working women, and a common group of girlfriends in the neighbourhood. Have done girls night's out in the past, and one trip last year with four ladies in total, with our family

Bunch of us planned a holiday with our family's in tow, for various reasons the three other ladies cancelled - and it ended up being us two away together with DHs and Kids.

So, when we planned it, it was self catering large caravans next to each other at this place that had stunning views and spectacular reviews. As DHs were going to be doing all the driving and some of the outdoorsy camp stuff with the kids, we agreed we would do the cooking. With the trip being only two nights away, we had agreed on bringing homemade food each of us for night 1 and to eat it all together, and to cook something simple for night 2.

Turns out I ended up bringing a huger amount of food for night 1 (the mains) but thought it sort of evened out as we ate inside, at theirs , as it was damp at night - there were two pots used to heat the food and we did leave the washing up of that to them - I left the leftovers with her and I think they warmed it up for breakfast the next morning , while I made some breakfast for us in our own caravan before we set out on activities for the day which again involved a lot of hill side driving which was done by the two DHs.

Turns out and I only found out on morning of day 2 that DH had offered to make them dinner on night 2 - now this annoyed me straight off the bat. It is an elaborate dish but one that DH loves , so it was partly for himself , but still I felt it upset the balanced planning I had in my mind. When he told me about it morning of day 2, I said fine , I hadnt unpacked my reaction yet so decided to go with it for then in order to let day 2 run smoothly and gracefully with the kids having fun as per the plan , and avoiding arguments seemed key. I wasnt happy about it though. It was a dish I hated to eat first off, I can't stand that particular type of fish cooked in that way and he knew that, but he also knew I would eat it if I had to. The original plan was for me and her to cook something simple together with the work divided among the two of us. In my mind, I had already done equal or more on night 1 with leaving a big box of leftovers for her for day 2 breakfast while I didnt take back any leftovers for us for morning after.

When i mentioned to her that DH planned to make dinner on night 2 and that rest of us could help out with prep etc, she answered extremely enthusiastically 'yes he said he was going to cook his fabulous xx for us tonight , wow etc' just seemed a bit odd to me as she knew I do not like that dish , but not her fault, DHs fault primarily . So let it slide

We had to leave the evening activities earlier to go get the ingredients for the elaborate dish, so I think the resentment against DH and her were building inside for me at that point. In retrospect, she could have offered that she and her DH do the shop as my DH was lead chef ? He does do his share of the cooking at home , but usually I have to nag for it to be 50pc though we both work ( a repeating theme on MN i Know) so to me , this reiterated the fact that he sometimes flirts or likes the ego boost of admiration of women, nothing new that I havent spotted already in the past 15 years with him but it has been harmless flirting in the past , never gets to affair stage, but is still low key annoying as I feel esp on holiday me and DC should have been his priority and it is annoying when he is seeking ego massaging as being seen as a great guy from my circle of lady friends instead of fucking off to do it with women at work (sorry for the langauge , but this is inconsiderate and lazy even when 'harmless')

anyway, he made the dinner, with both her and her DH helping as they can stand the smell and look of this type of fish dish, so ended up her H had no rest after a day of driving either thanks to DH changing the plan. She wasn't really doing that much with her DH helping mine , but I noticed on this trip more than I have in the past she likes to project manage and boss everyone around quite a lot , even when she's not doing a great deal herself, it had not been this noticeable in the past , if at all.

I kept the kids entertained in the open plan kitchen/dining and living area while the dinner was being made. Turns out they added too much of spice and flavour to the dish (it is not clear to me why or who's idea that was, as DH always adds just the right amount , never too much heat) and it ended up being inedible for my dc, and my husband cant eat spicy either, so he barely ate either. All of us ended up having mostly just the starters which was ready made and I popped in the oven for us, while their family enjoyed the spicy meal and also had two boxes of leftovers - presumably they were sorted for the long road trip back the next day as the plan to have lunch at an inn on the way back was turned down in a vague manner by them saying kids were fast asleep ( I figured they were eating the leftovers in the car while on the road, as wouldnt be starving the whole day ?)

We proceeded with the inn for lunch etc on our own.

So the above had me annoyed with both DH and friend, and not sure if AIBU?
I have long suspected DH is ND and on the spectrum which complicates it, as he doesnt see planning and organising as crucial the way I do.

The other thing is and perhaps this ties into him being ND, although maybe this is just overgrown teen boy behaviour unnacceptable for a grown man, but when we were at a pub lunch on day 2 - I went to get something from the car, and DH hid my mobile phone I think when I left it on the table at my seat, as a funny joke he says. When I came back in and couldnt see it there, I knew it was probably him and felt embarrased by the clownish act in front of friends, was searching for it just in case it fell off the table, while asking him whether he took my purse , and I noticed friend laughing (at me presumably as was in on the joke) when I was asking if anyone had seen my purse. What kind of 40 plus year old finds this a funny trick to play ? and what kind of 40 year old finds this laughable ?

Read him the riot act for this on the drive back home and he claims it was a funny joke and I was getting too serious. I actually felt a couple of times on the trip that the only other adult was her DH , and there was one incident when she told him off in the kitchen for dropping a utensil on the floor where I felt sorry for him. I actually felt a spark of ..like?....for him when he reacted so gracefully and classily in my mind to her embarrassing outburst. Absolutely not letting it upset him or reacting likewise.

AIBU to be kinda put off by both H and friend for the purse incident too ?
I think I can get liking someone , or feeling a spark, as long as harmless, and no intention to pursue it , we are all human. So okay, to offer to make a dish (him) or laugh (perhaps in embarrassment or not knowing what else to do) (her) for a silly joke.....but I think I am more put off by the fact, that she would not maybe make a quick pasta or something morning off the return to offer me some packed food for the road trip back, or something thoughtful and nice to even things nicely ?

And H needs to grow up re the purse hiding thing , disgusting, thats not even in the AIBU question, that has to be unfunny and disrespectful right ?

OP posts:
arcticpandas · 05/08/2025 19:59

defrazzled · 05/08/2025 18:32

You all sound mad to me, who cooks fancy fish dishes in a caravan! Who worries so much above division of labour on holiday. I think you need to holiday alone in future OP, for everyones sake!

You forgot the 2× leftovers given to the the other couple that they could eat for breakfast

Pineapplewaves · 05/08/2025 20:05

I wouldn’t describe two nights in a caravan as a “holiday” more like a mini break, only it’s not a break if you have to cook and clean up afterwards. For two nights I would have insisted on a local pub/restaurant for dinner, just got cereal and some bacon (sandwiches) for breakfast and lunch would have been a Tesco meal deal or a cafe at the activity - everything you went through need not have happened in the first place!

BobLemon · 05/08/2025 20:07

Has your DH persuaded you that driving is “work” equivalent to cooking dinner? That requires a rest afterwards???

Barney16 · 05/08/2025 20:09

Theres a reason fish and chip shops were invented...

FarmGirl78 · 05/08/2025 20:09

BySassyGreenPanda · 05/08/2025 19:44

Nope. Hunker down with a pot noodle and a packet of Hobnobs. It's not worth the risk FarmGirl78 😁

@JaneAustenFann Can you clarify.....is boiling a kettle ok? Maybe I'd best stay safe and just have the hobknobs.

I mean I'd rather head off to Wetherspoons, but I've misplaced my "unclean" bell to ring to warn others of my leper-like state.

loobylou10 · 05/08/2025 20:09

Wishimaywishimight · 05/08/2025 18:32

Mountain / Molehill

Exactly what I was going to write. How do you get through life if you get this wound up about a meal. Baffling.

Ooodelally · 05/08/2025 20:09

Is this whole thing to justify yourself after getting fanny flutters for the husband?

itsgettingweird · 05/08/2025 20:12

KiwiFall · 05/08/2025 19:12

Sorry couldn’t read it all. When we went camping it was take food for first night then buy/make simple meals (ie burgers and hot dogs in buns or bought fish and chips/pizzas or go out to a pub. Meals were discussed with the other family beforehand so split the shopping. Think you either expected too much and/or didn’t plan/discuss. Why make an issue/drama out of it.

I think the one
thing we can guarantee this OP did was plan.

There’s evidence she can discuss things in great detail too 😂😂

I think the problem is that things didn’t go how she planned or how she discussed and she couldn’t cope.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 20:13

FarmGirl78 · 05/08/2025 20:09

@JaneAustenFann Can you clarify.....is boiling a kettle ok? Maybe I'd best stay safe and just have the hobknobs.

I mean I'd rather head off to Wetherspoons, but I've misplaced my "unclean" bell to ring to warn others of my leper-like state.

It's ok. It's a Wetherspoons. You'll be ok 🤣

Liliwen · 05/08/2025 20:14

FarmGirl78 · 05/08/2025 19:41

I'm just checking with everyone....

....had a bit of spotting the past few days. Not actually due on for another 2 weeks though. Do you think I could risk making some toast?

Whatever you do, do not make fish. Especially not spicy fish that you can eat for breakfast

BySassyGreenPanda · 05/08/2025 20:14

FarmGirl78 · 05/08/2025 20:09

@JaneAustenFann Can you clarify.....is boiling a kettle ok? Maybe I'd best stay safe and just have the hobknobs.

I mean I'd rather head off to Wetherspoons, but I've misplaced my "unclean" bell to ring to warn others of my leper-like state.

Hmm, not sure about the boiling water. It's a valid point. Maybe sticking to Hobnobs is safer.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 05/08/2025 20:16

Well I'm buzzing to learn I'm exempt from cooking as I'm on my period. DH will be pleased to know he's making dinner even though he's at work and I'm off today.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 20:16

Wishimaywishimight · 05/08/2025 18:32

Mountain / Molehill

That's what the men were driving up and down 🤣

Hankunamatata · 05/08/2025 20:17

Your dh is the problem not your friend

beAsensible1 · 05/08/2025 20:17

How have you manage find so much gripe on for a 2 day break Jesus. tell DH to stop making the dish you don’t like.

why would your friend dissuade your DH from cooking what he suggests? He’s your husband not hers.

stop blaming your mate for your husband being annoying.

ScrambledEggs12 · 05/08/2025 20:18

What I got from this post is:

  1. The other three couples had a lucky escape.
  2. If you want to eat your leftovers, you shouldn't leave them with someone else for them to eat.
stillhiding1990 · 05/08/2025 20:22

No rationale person thinks like this, very disordered. How do you navigate work environments? Also, can the poster elaborate about the other post re Russian caravan holiday?

Charlize43 · 05/08/2025 20:23

Have you thought of taking half a Xanax and a couple of glasses of Prosecco?

defrazzled · 05/08/2025 20:23

arcticpandas · 05/08/2025 19:59

You forgot the 2× leftovers given to the the other couple that they could eat for breakfast

You're absolutely right, I have no idea how I missed this essential info. Drama indeed 😂😂

WiddlinDiddlin · 05/08/2025 20:27

I get it too..

There's an irritating element of 'going behind your back' here ...

You and the other DW had a plan that split the load effectively and ensured everyone got to enjoy holiday, eat something they liked etc etc.

Then other DW and your 'D'H get together and concoct a plan that alters this - resulting in half the party not having a dinner they can eat, unfair division of labour, unfair division of left overs...

And then in the pub, theres more of this 'behind your back' shenanigans with the phone 'joke'.

And it all seems to be engineered so that your 'D'H is the 'amazing chef/hilarious clown' main character and the other DW is the hard working saint..

I'd be annoyed with the pair of them, I would also expect to be told I am over sensitive, hard work etc, because the subtleties and nuance of this sort of irritating shit is beyond a lot of peoples grasp.

GanninHyem · 05/08/2025 20:28

In any case, he was too tired to cook today (why am i surprised) and I had to cook while still bleeding after a week of starting my period , and back at work logged in for the day, while he was off work and too tired to cook

Marytr much? Oh no you had to cook while having a period and after working? Oh noooooo, no woman has had to do that ever!! Poor you!!! You didn't cook yesterday so isn't it your turn? Or you put your big girl pants on and say oi, dickhead you've been off work today get in the kitchen.

Coconutter24 · 05/08/2025 20:29

I had to cook while still bleeding after a week of starting my period , and back at work logged in for the day, while he was off work and too tired to cook

are you usually emotional in your periods cos that would explain the thread I just read?!?!
You’ve created a massive mountain out of a molehill, it all seems to stem because the plan changed yet you accuse her of being controlling and bossy. Then you didn’t like the fish but you were going to a shop to get ingredients with your DH, at that point you could have said “you know I’m not a massive fan of that dish can we do a different one?” And if he insisted on doing the dish “ok I’ll pick up something for me whilst we are at the shop”. Honestly you sound a bit of a drama queen

Tiredofallthis101 · 05/08/2025 20:37

YABU. DH cooking would have annoyed me but I'd have just told him no and to cook something everyone could eat, and go ingredient shopping alone. Friend being a bit crap I can also understand irritating you but DH is the one that messed up the plan - why would friend cook some pasta for you to take home, very odd. She's obviously not that emotionally intelligent but not sure anyone in this story is really, sorry!

GreyCarpet · 05/08/2025 20:39

I also put it into chatgpt to ask whether YABU or YANBU...

Verdict:
You're not being unreasonable in your frustrations. Your expectations for reciprocal effort, respect, and maturity are entirely fair. The core issue is a mismatch in emotional labor and consideration — from both your husband and friend — and your reaction reflects a reasonable desire for balance, boundaries, and thoughtfulness.

Chatgpt might well render AIBU redundant as a board.

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 20:39

we arent of white western ethnicity and in my culture a lot of ppl eat dinner leftovers for breakfast

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