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tramtracks · 05/08/2025 17:32

To think that Mi5’s summer internship program is racist. Those who complete the internship are much more likely to be recruited post graduation.

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/careers/opportunities/internships

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 17:38

Care to elaborate? Why do you think it's racist?
I personally don't feel "wah, what about me?" because not everything's about me
In fact I think having a representation of all different walks of life for want of a better expression is a good thing.
Just like I hope MN has a nice mix of people who are white, black, brown, gay, trans, men and women on the moderators team.
So things that say I as a white Brit might not see or minimise it as it's not my experience.

Sirzy · 05/08/2025 17:43

It sounds to me as if they have noticed that their organisation is predominantly white British and as such are trying to expand to make it more inclusive. Hardly racist!

tramtracks · 05/08/2025 17:48

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 17:38

Care to elaborate? Why do you think it's racist?
I personally don't feel "wah, what about me?" because not everything's about me
In fact I think having a representation of all different walks of life for want of a better expression is a good thing.
Just like I hope MN has a nice mix of people who are white, black, brown, gay, trans, men and women on the moderators team.
So things that say I as a white Brit might not see or minimise it as it's not my experience.

Isn’t it cutting out a career prospect from whole sections of society based on colour.

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tramtracks · 05/08/2025 18:08

Sirzy · 05/08/2025 17:43

It sounds to me as if they have noticed that their organisation is predominantly white British and as such are trying to expand to make it more inclusive. Hardly racist!

Banning people from applying for jobs on the basis of their skin colour is imo racist.

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toomuchfaff · 05/08/2025 18:09

tramtracks · 05/08/2025 17:48

Isn’t it cutting out a career prospect from whole sections of society based on colour.

But because they are under represented, not because they have had enough of the whites, or the whites can't jump... or some other demeaning reason...

Sirzy · 05/08/2025 18:11

tramtracks · 05/08/2025 18:08

Banning people from applying for jobs on the basis of their skin colour is imo racist.

They aren’t banning them from applying for the jobs though. They are simply offering a program that will hopefully help level the playing field.

When any group is underrepresented it can easily become a self fulfilling prophecy, those who don’t think they will fit won’t apply so the cycle continues. A program like this can help break that cycle and mean for future generations it may not be needed.

tramtracks · 05/08/2025 18:28

Sirzy · 05/08/2025 18:11

They aren’t banning them from applying for the jobs though. They are simply offering a program that will hopefully help level the playing field.

When any group is underrepresented it can easily become a self fulfilling prophecy, those who don’t think they will fit won’t apply so the cycle continues. A program like this can help break that cycle and mean for future generations it may not be needed.

Those that have completed the internship program are encouraged to apply for a fill time position and are statistical very likely to be at a huge advantage for that job.

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Yabberwok · 05/08/2025 18:48

Errr I've not checked the link, but as a lot of the threat we face comes from Muslim extremists and states that back them, recruiting spys that could actually blend in might just help....I mean Sean Connery was very good at dealing with those dratted soviet east European/USSR types but put him in a Madrassa and he might just stand out a bit.

Don't worry those posh white chaps are still being tapped up at Oxbridge

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