to tell you violent crime in the UK is falling

[1diamondearing]

violence is falling, robbery is falling, gun crime is falling, knife crime and sex crime is not significantly falling or rising, fraud is rising, shoplifting is rising

So London is bucking the trend? Why is our crime going up.

Well I live in --- and crime is very low and barely affects me, so therefore the data must be wrong. And actually the ONS must be over reporting crime such as iPhone theft, because I've never owned an iPhone and never had one stolen. Really can't believe that people believe these 'stats' around iPhone theft, not round my house I'll tell you that! They must be lying.

They are here, about 40% of asylum seekers are female

Where? Back up the statistic please.

No, it’s not falling, why would it?! It’s that police don’t get told, because they
seem to have stopped functioning.

govt statistics, look it up for yourself

As usual selective facts and figures can be presented to back up bias, so on that note how many illegal small boat crossing immigrants/asylum seekers were male and how many were female?

I bet you wont answer that will you 😂

I don't believe any of this! I've never heard anyone say in the last few years, what a relief the UK's crime has drastically come down, it's so much safer now!

Are they shit. You only need eyes in your head to see that that's patently not true.

Where is here, so it’s 40%?

@1diamondearing Still awaiting your answer?

The reputation of the ONS is not very high at the moment.

Perhaps the increase is due to a greater willingness to report rape or some change in the way police record it.

answer to what?

What is this about? The UK’s ONS is trusted across the world for accuracy and impartiality and produces loads of data.

Got to love the negativity here. Here's a simple fact. We live in the safest time in human history. I know horrendous events are occurring in Africa, the middle East and Ukraine. However, in the scope of human history you are less likely than ever before to be the victim of violent crime.
The UK and western Europe is probably at it's lowest people to people crime levels ever ie crime by direct theft from the person or property and yet people don't see this because of the fact that the media loves misery. Plus go back and watch how dreadful events were reported in the 70s and 80s and how they are now. With a 24 hour need to fill the news agenda were subjected to repeated doom and gloom far beyond what the story warrants.

I feel safe in my suburb, but going into town is another matter.

A few weeks ago a group of youths smashed their way into a jewller's shop with hammers in the middle of the day on the busy High St. Lots of comments on the fb news articles of "why didn't people stop filming and stop them?" Err because they're violent people armed with hammers and don't give a shit??? Who wants to risk having their head caved in?

This was very literally opposite the bank where less than 3 months ago a customer was murdered in a stabbing.

Our Police and Crime Commissioner is appealling to the Home Secretary for more support to manage the number of serious violent crimes in our county.

Barely a weekend goes by without some serious injury or fatal stabbing either in town or smaller towns around the surrounding area.

There may well be fewer (recorded?) brawl type incidents. Late night fights used to be common, but night life culture has quietened down in numbers. The incidents that occur and are recorded certainly include more serious assults.

Drugs are increasingly avaliable. This will affect people's reactions and self-control and its supply chain is a major source of crime anyway.

When I'm out and about in certain areas, I'm on high alert because of clusters of young men loitering, and drugs runners barrelling through on illegal electic bikes and e-scooters. (Plus the mass of businesses known to be fronts for money laundering on the High St). There are constant waves of the High St being filled with bored street drinkers/ drug addicts constantly spoiling for drama. I've been verbally abused on a few occasions for quietly ignoring and walking away when my presence had fallen under their radar. At least the "Spice Zombies" phase has passed, that was grim.

During a recent dinner conversation DH was surprised when DS casually said "yeah, I've seen people being arrested a few times". We'd just been going about our business in town.
A couple of years ago buying DS a school bag, someone came into the shop, grabbed an arm full of clothing from near the entrance and scarpered with £££s of stock. This is common through the shopping centre. The increase in second hand sales makes it easier to shift stolen goods, and has made the offences more serious in their scale.

Not local, but in one depressed seaside town, I've seen Lurpak in perspex security containers!

As a person living in a nice suburb and not engaged with any criminal contacts*, my chances of being a victim of (in person) crimes is probably fairly unchanged over the years. What does concern me is that if a random stranger crime does occur, the odds of them being high on drugs and armed with a knife designed to wound is higher than it used to be, with potentially more serious consequences.

But hey, at least "bleed kits" are getting more common to go with defribulators.

*I am not in touch with my former pupil who was convicted of murder (gang stabbing) a few years after I taught him.

How many women come over in boats from France. You’d have to be blind to think it was 40%

That statistic is not from people crossing the channel.

I did have a google yesterday. All that came up was an article and a photo of those brave, fearless princes among men, pushing women off boats in France so men could clamber on instead, and a story of one woman drowning because of it.

I also can’t find it now, but there was an article i read a couple of years ago of a woman who was gang raped on the way over.

Women are not crossing on boats. A short Internet search will tell you it’s vanishingly rare and that they don’t fare well, because of the men.

Just the sort of chaps we need.

The 40% female asylum claim. The question was where are you that that’s the case

Even 1 domestic abuse incident is far too many

I mean if people don’t FEEL like crime is falling, then what’s the point of this post?

So many people feel like the country is more lawless than ever, so your “stats” are somewhat redundant.

You best believe, if there were evidence of a single boat crossing the channel that contained a significant number of woman and children, the Guardian and left wing media would broadcast that image far and wide. They would shout it from the rooftops.

They can’t because these photos simply don’t exist, because these boats are always full of young men.

Absolutely. It would be on the front pages everyday.

In Britain

Where does that 40% come from.

Because it’s not from the men who turn up on boats and try to claim asylum.

What does that figure come from, and how many people are they counting? 40% of 100 people who presented from Somalia, not entering on illegal boats? (For example, I’m tired and plucking names out the air).

There are vanishingly few women coming across in boats. It’s all men. As a PP pointed out, we’d never hear the end of it if women and children were on them.

They are not being housed separately either. The hotels and HMOs are all young men, because it is all young men.

I mean, 50% of adults in my area are vegetarian. My “area” being my home. 50% being two out of 4 adults in my home.

Statistics can mean anything with no context.