to tell you violent crime in the UK is falling

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violence is falling, robbery is falling, gun crime is falling, knife crime and sex crime is not significantly falling or rising, fraud is rising, shoplifting is rising

Trying to post graphs again

I still cant see them, but maybe they will appear shortly?

It's weird isn't it? Everyone seems to prefer to moan and be negative in this country!

The media control the narrative. It’s in their interest to provide clickbait. And a positive story doesn’t suit their political agenda.

That said, increased fraud and shoplifting (and even DV) says everything about the state of the economy.

it’s interesting that we are encouraged to listen to data. To facts. Until it does not suit your message. Then it’s Fake News. Or conspiracies.

I’m sure all those people who’ve had their phones and bags snatched will be greatly cheered by this news.
As a pp pointed out, if crime isn’t reported how can statistics show it hasn’t gone down?

anyway, here is a link

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2025#main-points

This is the ONS crime survey, which is the best measure we have, and for comparison purposes, very valid. It is also confirmed by the statistics reported by police

It's got to depend on the area surely. In the last year alone there's been several murders in my area, too many stabbings to count, couldn't tell you how many people post online about their bikes being robbed ect

Less than a month ago a teenager was chased and stabbed at the end of my street. I sent the police the cctv of the boy running away with a machete.

Crime has not fallen at all in the area I live in

A lot of this increase is down to more people reporting but this is still horrifically low. I am.nkt sure I would report a rape given our shift judicial system.

Probably coz most of us live in the real world 🤷‍♀️ I've just posted upthread about what it's like in the area I live In. It's full of crime, a lot of it violent

Not where I live. It’s always been a shithole but there’s something most days now. My street was closed pff for two days due to a shooting a few doors down last month,
my daughters school was put into lockdown twice since March due to men with machetes in the area, one in the school entrance area.

It’s getting worse here all the time.

Maybe they live in London

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/rise-london-mobile-phone-thefts-met-police-b1231196.html

People are very reluctant to believe positive news, unfortunately. I'd strongly recommend reading Hans Rosling's book 'Factfulness'. Obviously lots of bad things happen in the world, but lots and lots of things have continued to get better and better. We tend to look back with rose-tinted spectacles and ignore the bad things about the past while focusing only on the bad things about the present.

My area has been bad, from what I see. Lots of knife crime. Lots of teens with machetes. Lots of dramatic police action.

That’s via Facebook reporting on my local pages, rather than formal media sources.

Really close to home we have a gang of very young teens running riot, threatening with knives and broken bottles if anyone challenges them. Now, if you leave them to it they seem content to ignore you. But speak to them about trashing the flower tubs, rocking over the street furniture, or smashing bottles and they get hostile fast. I’ve seen the photos, they look about 13.

It’s been reported but I don’t know whether it would count anywhere.

I don't believe this for a single second. Sexual assaults against women are massively under reported and prosecutions are pitifully low. This is demonstrated across the UK and sadly, I know this from personal experience. Rape is pretty much legal in the UK.

No. People just don't bother even contacting the police anymore.

Its a lawless country. Theft has been legalised.

To add a note of optimism, 20 years ago it was gun crime, TWOCing and burning out cars.

None of that happens anymore, so progress!

I've heard that reported violent crimes are down partly due to aging population. Older men less likely to commit crimes

completely true.
my dad didn't report 2 van thefts and 3 tool thefts to the police because they were unhelpful and patronising.
Along the lines of "why isn't this van parked in the garage?" we don't have a garage.
"Why weren't the tools kept inside?" he was at work!

Even if crime is falling, the way we all live has changed. I can't let my daughter walk through town to my work after school because of the groups of men loitering on corners. This phenomenon never existed 10 or even 5 years ago. I lock my door at night, because there are people and vehicles who behave oddly and people nearby have been broken into, this was formerly an unusually safe area. People feel less safe, this was a high trust area, it's now a low trust area. Anything that's not nailed down is stolen. There used to be honesty boxes for Eggs or fish or cakes, these are all gone. Dinghies nicked from shores, angle grinders taken to bike locks. Bike locks that wouldn't even have been used a decade ago, because bike theft was so unusual in the town.

I stand by what I said before. Tittle tattle on local Facebook groups is a scourge. People posting every little thing.

PERCEIVED danger is a great way for people to focus on the micro not the macro environment.

I often tell my kids of growing up in the 70s and 80s of the numerous IRA bomb scares (and real, regular incidents too). We just lived with it. Can you imagine that today with social media?

It is not a lawless country. Even if you think the ONs has cobbled these stats together on the back of an old napkin it is still, very clearly, not lawless!!

My police officer son (now ex officer, he’s just left), had his motorbike stolen from the garage. Even he burst out laughing when people asked if he’d called the police. He knew it was absolutely pointless, working for them.

He only reported it to get the crime number for the insurance, nothing was done, which of course he knew.

Most crime is small, having your phone taken down in London that’s every 6 minutes or so across the city, businesses seeing shoplifting go up. If you see it more around you then it’s going to stick in the mind.