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To think that surgeons, while obviously skilled, often have a certain arrogance that makes them difficult to work with?

234 replies

WildHazelCritic · 03/08/2025 21:27

I completely respect the level of skill, training, and responsibility that comes with being a surgeon but I’ve noticed that many seem to have a certain… arrogance? Of course, confidence is necessary in that field but at what point does it tip over into being dismissive or difficult to work with?

I’ve heard stories (and witnessed myself) of surgeons being rude to colleagues, unwilling to take input, or acting like they’re above everyone else. Is this just part of the culture or do some surgeons lean into the “god complex” stereotype a little too much?

AIBU to think their attitude could sometimes use a reality check? Or is this just a misunderstanding of what the job requires?

OP posts:
sellotapechicken · 13/08/2025 17:32

Kirbert2 · 12/08/2025 20:06

We’re having a party! He had Burkitts Lymphoma so 1 year in remission is an extra big milestone. 😊

Sounds absolutely brilliant (party) yes that is such an achievement!

Kirbert2 · 13/08/2025 18:10

sellotapechicken · 13/08/2025 17:32

Sounds absolutely brilliant (party) yes that is such an achievement!

It definitely is, especially for my son.

Burkitts caused an intussusception which then caused septic shock and multi organ failure. He had a cardiac arrest for 17 minutes and then was on a ventilator and dialysis for 4 weeks and was also on ecmo for 5 days.

He wasn't expected to survive, he was so unstable during his first surgery that they told me he wouldn't make it to theatre so they did it in his PICU room.

They were able to remove all of the cancer during surgery but he wouldn't have survived chemotherapy at that point and then he had a clear CT scan a few months later so they considered him to be in remission. He then did relapse a few months later but thankfully at that point, he was able to have chemo.

He's my miracle boy.

Cyclingforcake · 13/08/2025 19:27

I’m an anaesthetist. I don’t often get rattled but the other day in a hairy situation my language and manner was not all it could have been for about 90secs until the situation was under control. We can all be arrogant, sweary dicks at times.

(I apologised later to all concerned and have been forgiven! Apparently it was the talk of the coffee room for the morning)

Cyclingforcake · 13/08/2025 19:28

unsurewhattodoaboutit · 04/08/2025 02:51

Arrogance is not necessarily a good trait if you are a surgeon! If you want to read or listen to a case where surgeons arrogance did not lead to a good patient outcome. Elaine Bromily.

Unfortunately that was anaesthetists not surgeons.

sashh · 14/08/2025 04:52

Kirbert2 · 13/08/2025 18:10

It definitely is, especially for my son.

Burkitts caused an intussusception which then caused septic shock and multi organ failure. He had a cardiac arrest for 17 minutes and then was on a ventilator and dialysis for 4 weeks and was also on ecmo for 5 days.

He wasn't expected to survive, he was so unstable during his first surgery that they told me he wouldn't make it to theatre so they did it in his PICU room.

They were able to remove all of the cancer during surgery but he wouldn't have survived chemotherapy at that point and then he had a clear CT scan a few months later so they considered him to be in remission. He then did relapse a few months later but thankfully at that point, he was able to have chemo.

He's my miracle boy.

Bloody hell he is a miracle. Poor child and poor you and yours going through that.

StevieAnnSENMum · 14/08/2025 05:29

VeryAwkwardForMe · 03/08/2025 21:40

I personally believe most of the male surgeons are autistic. With how skilled they are yet still struggle with communication and lack of empathy... it really makes sense to me. I could be well wrong. That's just what I believe.

Most autistic people don't have a lack of empathy, we just show empathy in a different way 🙄

sopsmu · 14/08/2025 08:12

What a nonsense. There are arrogant tossers in all professions. My ex is a surgeon, he’s lovely. The 2 neurosurgeons that have operated on me - both lovely. Don’t confuse focus with arrogance. Plenty of arrogance in my profession too but many of us are lovely.

justasking111 · 14/08/2025 09:51

sopsmu · 14/08/2025 08:12

What a nonsense. There are arrogant tossers in all professions. My ex is a surgeon, he’s lovely. The 2 neurosurgeons that have operated on me - both lovely. Don’t confuse focus with arrogance. Plenty of arrogance in my profession too but many of us are lovely.

Focus I do recognise in both my surgeons. At consultations I write down questions in advance and listen hard. Husband picks up stuff I don't.

VeryAwkwardForMe · 14/08/2025 12:54

StevieAnnSENMum · 14/08/2025 05:29

Most autistic people don't have a lack of empathy, we just show empathy in a different way 🙄

That is very true, medically/proffesionally wise their bluntness can come across as lack of empathy.... me, my dad, my dd, my sister and my son are autistic

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