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Thread 12: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 02/08/2025 12:25

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found
3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video
4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn
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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for eleven very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.
No saltiness. Keep to the path.
Will our life-size cardboard cut-out Simon Armitage keep his head?
NB Timeline coming in the first posts of this thread for reference.

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GogleddCymru · 03/08/2025 18:50

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 03/08/2025 17:04

Honestly, a bit bemused as to why this has run to 12 threads.
Books can be fiction.
Publishers aren’t required to verify.
Some people are thieves and liars.
Why is everyone so stuck on this?

Oh dear ... I hope you're sitting comfortably, I have a feeling you're going to have quite a few tart responses to this 😄

Yes, books can indeed be fiction. Ones that are sold as fiction, that is, rather than 'unflinchingly honest' non-fiction. It's all about truth, d'you see?

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 18:52

Yes it was @DisappointedReader but I jus happened to see your post as I was thinking about band names.

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 18:55

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 18:52

Yes it was @DisappointedReader but I jus happened to see your post as I was thinking about band names.

For what genre? Now I wonder where Drive-by Scolders would fit, possibly some kind of Folk-Punk mix? 🤔

MargaretThursday · 03/08/2025 19:01

I think one thing I'd be interested to know is why she took her Mum's death out of the first one. We know it didn't fit the real timeline, so it was right to be taken out. So that's fine:

If I'm right she initially put it in the first book, took it out and had it in a second. In which case:

Did she realise the date could be checked and remove it, or did the agent or publisher say take it out?

Because if the agent or publisher told her to take it out, then either they knew it was wrong in the timeline, in which case they should have been alerted and be doing more thorough checks.
Or they should have been alerted later when she added it to another book.

I would say that whoever took it out does have a case to answer.

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:01

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 18:55

For what genre? Now I wonder where Drive-by Scolders would fit, possibly some kind of Folk-Punk mix? 🤔

Kinda post punk maybe? Embellished Bollox would be punk punk.

Now 'Raynor Winn and the Embezzlers" would be more rock/r&b.

'The Invisible Moth" more shoe gaze?

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:02

Need something folky though...The Salty Fraudsters'?

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 19:06

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:02

Need something folky though...The Salty Fraudsters'?

Cornish, folky and rather fishy - Fishermen's Fiends?

MarmiteWine · 03/08/2025 19:08

Just wondering, and too lazy busy to go back to check... rather than the theory that the 2015 diagnosis has been retrofitted to a 2013 walk, is there any possibility that the walk was actually in 2015/16?

I seem to recall something about the 'detail' of the court case being added in (at the publisher's request?). Could it have been glossed over originally because it wasn't actually an original driving force behind the walk?

It could also account for the "2016 diagnosis" 'misprint' in the blurb of early editions.

Obviously that would mean disregarding some other things we're told happened, including the cricket, though that's already in doubt in a lot of people's minds.

TonstantWeader · 03/08/2025 19:08

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 18:36

@Hyenana

Great name for a band 'The Drive-by Scolders'.

I also like 'Embellished Bollox'
(can't remember who gave us that gem!)

'twas me with the EB <preens> and definitely @DisappointedReader with the DBS 😂

I feel a John Peel meme coming on.......

Thread 12: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
Hyenana · 03/08/2025 19:09

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:01

Kinda post punk maybe? Embellished Bollox would be punk punk.

Now 'Raynor Winn and the Embezzlers" would be more rock/r&b.

'The Invisible Moth" more shoe gaze?

😂agree to all of those!
except I'd shorten it to "Raynor and the Embezzlers" - no need to be so formal and include the last name!

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 19:12

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:02

Need something folky though...The Salty Fraudsters'?

The Eternal Lettuce?

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:12

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 19:06

Cornish, folky and rather fishy - Fishermen's Fiends?

Hah! Excellent.

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:14

TonstantWeader · 03/08/2025 19:08

'twas me with the EB <preens> and definitely @DisappointedReader with the DBS 😂

I feel a John Peel meme coming on.......

Ah Peelie, the soundtrack of my youth 🤩

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:16

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 19:12

The Eternal Lettuce?

😂😂😂 genius! Or The Tortoise of Fate?

TonstantWeader · 03/08/2025 19:22

These are great band names. We'll have enough for a festival soon though possibly not a literary one

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:24

TonstantWeader · 03/08/2025 19:22

These are great band names. We'll have enough for a festival soon though possibly not a literary one

'Fault Lines'

TonstantWeader · 03/08/2025 19:26

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Hyenana · 03/08/2025 19:30

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:16

😂😂😂 genius! Or The Tortoise of Fate?

Ooh nice one! 😍 How about
The Foreshadowing Peregrine
to complete the mystical salty animals edition?

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:33

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 19:30

Ooh nice one! 😍 How about
The Foreshadowing Peregrine
to complete the mystical salty animals edition?

😂😂😂 Love it!

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 19:33

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Have you got his handle on X?

FurryHappyKittens · 03/08/2025 19:34

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Ah!

Well, if the man himself has been questioning things...

How embarrassing for Walker that her "inspiration" has his doubts!

😆

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 19:34

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I'll have a look for that, thanks

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 19:38

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Funny that... in 2020 he did a podcast with her talking about her walk & book and I think the interviewer even described them as friends 🤨
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/footnotes-the/raynor-winn-and-paddy-dillon-nGNow1dbaxz/

Laska2Meryls · 03/08/2025 19:38

CoolBath · 03/08/2025 18:35

Im te toed to respond ‘With Moth, obviously!’ but will refrain.

@Laska2Meryls — I tend to imagine that, under the spell of Tim, and as an incredibly sheltered teenager who, until they went camping in the Highlands, had never spent a night away from her parents, and who had been brought up with such strict ideas of good behaviour that she was shocked at having the nerve to walk through a remote campsite in her bra because her shoulders were bleeding from a borrowed rucksack, because it’s ’not nice’ to have anything other than your arms out in public, they probably went to a couple of marches or sit-ins, and that was enough for her to feel completely committed to what she saw as Moth’s free-spirited politics.

I think that's it. I was also brought up in a traditional but suburban environment. When I first moved into a shared house at aged 21 and met people who were , just as much 'suburban lefties' as I liked to think I was then , going on CND marches was quite thrilling and scary.. I think her background was a fair bit like mine

TonstantWeader · 03/08/2025 19:40

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 19:33

Have you got his handle on X?

Sorry, may have led you all up the Salt/Garden path there: just checked and it's this guy: @Patrick_Dudette

So not that Paddy D, but another one. I'll get that post of mine edited

https://x.com/Patrick_Dudette

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