Thread 12: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for eleven very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.
No saltiness. Keep to the path.
Will our life-size cardboard cut-out Simon Armitage keep his head?
NB Timeline coming in the first posts of this thread for reference.

Out of interest what else might you expect when walking they miss, apart from blisters?

I find it particularly interesting that he remembers seeing them lounging about at 10 o'clock - in TSP they plan on leaving early but are caught "in the first light of dawn" which in Mid-September would have been a lot earlier (sunrise around 7 o'clock).
If true (Tadge probably knows when he does his checking rounds even if it's a long time ago) that shows quite a brass neck on their part.

I can only see the one linked above…?

The other two articles are hopefully legible

In the print version, it says that they have a copy of the pre-published manuscript, Lightly Salted Blackberries and among other things it says that SW's sister was there when her mum was dying.

Yes, and this offers a big clue to the lack of evidence of the 2013 diagnosis. If RW originally wrote that her mother died (which was in 2015) before TWs diagnosis, it strongly suggests the 2015 letter was THE diagnosis.

In print it’s a 3 page spread on p15-17 with a very eye catching photo

That quiz is fairly new only been going a couple of years at most. Think the Village has had a pub quiz longer but that’s not on the sea front. WWH is a lovely town very busy especially in summer

I think Paddy Dillon makes a good point in the article, about nutrition. Yes, you can exist on a restricted diet for a few days, but not for a sustained amount of time because you need reserves.

So, if they did do bits of it and not all of it, the noodles, fudge, etc. would make more sense. And in between their occasional shorter walks, they ate normally elsewhere.

Unfortunately all articles for me at least are blurred - can anyone blow up? Many thanks

Having been to the event with Chloe and read today’s spread my view is that Chloe is now doing a slow pivot to this being an exposée of the publishing industry with TSP being a vehicle to expose that along with the previous examples of James Frey and Belle Gibson. Some of her comments at the event were along the lines of publishing and journalism are very similar but publishing is able to print things that journalists could not.

Thank you, @Choux — I’m very shortsighted, so can’t really read it, but the stuff about alterations in the MS is very interesting. I can’t see whether it says the unusually lengthy disclaimer was on it from the original hardback edition, or whether it appeared in subsequent editions only? One of the annoying things about Kindles is that the text you’ve rented can change — mine used to have he AH cover illustration, now it has a film still!

I mean, if I were her editor, I’d probably have suggested taking out the mother’s death from TSP, too. When did her mother actually die? I know someone on here had a date.

The nutrition issue was certainly raised more than once on a hiking Reddit where TSP was being discussed.

Writing co-correspondant here. I would be... uncomfortable with asking for communication between SW and her agent to be made public. I know that sometimes I talk to my agent about the contents of my books and it's not really information that I would want others to read (because of things of a personal nature, rather than because I'm up to scamming my readership). It's a bit along the lines of letters to a family friend type of thing. I know there's all the 'in the public interest', but it makes me feel a bit queasy, when agents really don't have the final word on what goes into print anyway. SWs agent may have suggested that she tweak some things, or even rewrite the timeline, but SW didn't have to do it. It's what the publishers and your editor want that count.

So while I'd like to see what went on with the original manuscript and what PRH might have wanted changed 'for narrative purposes' as opposed to how pre-tweaked it was before submission - I'd only want to see edited highlights of correspondence with an agent.

I can only see the linked one about the cafés online, and I so wanted to read more about the medical aspect and was a bit disappointed it wasn't covered.
Was the poem the same one as in the last Observer podcast, 'Just another day'?

Absolutely not another pub like that. She is very specific. Believe me I know pretty much all the pubs in the local area 🤣🤣 it’s my specialist subject 🤣🤣

Yes I commented last week on how they must have had a severe calorie deficit each day but she didn’t seem to have any noticeable weight loss in the photos I saw.

@Hyenana
"I find it particularly interesting that he remembers seeing them lounging about at 10 o'clock - in TSP they plan on leaving early but are caught "in the first light of dawn" which in Mid-September would have been a lot earlier (sunrise around 7 o'clock). If true (Tadge probably knows when he does his checking rounds even if it's a long time ago) that shows quite a brass neck on their part."
Well spotted. The brass neck is classic Raymoth

Is this better?

There was a quote last week in The Week which I thought perfect for S&TW

“If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you’re the asshole.” (Elmore Leonard)

I live on a very popular walking route and never meet horrid people, and many are well of the age of 50 - it’s the young ones that stand out.

I'm not sure saying "I unintentionally made false claims about this institution, describing them in a way that everyone would have to conclude it was them" would work as a defense, but I'm not a lawyer.
My guess is they rightfully assumed no small business owner would have the capacity to take them to court over this.

Yes ‘Just Another Day’.

There is a hardback first edition of TSP on Abebooks which shows the page with the disclaimer being the same as in the paperback version.

I agree. If I read the book and was then doing the walk I would be disinclined to go to that cafe as the owner had been depicted as awful. It’s only by going in that you see the carpet, the lack of paninis etc but I would never know that as I wouldn’t have gone in!

Hmmm my last photos haven’t appeared. Is there a limit to how many you can post in a day?

ah they have now. Enjoy!