Page 5 | To think the RNLI are 100% in the right

SanFranBear · 2025-07-29T08:44:50+00:00

I've just seen this story on the BBC news homepage where the RNLI are being accused of acting as a taxi service for migrants trying to enter the UK on small boats from Europe. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dejyg4l37o The organisation and volunteers quite rightly have responded to say they make no apologies for saving lives at sea and that their work has no political motivation. Damn straight - one of the volunteers further down the article explains the profound impact he feels of encountering people struggling in our waters. It makes me wonder what critics of the service expect them to do - just sail away, leaving the people to die? Pick them up and cross the channel to dump them back 'where they came from'? What is wrong with them? Where is their compassion? Regardless of your thoughts on immigration, this is so cold and inhuman....

BlankBlankBlank14 · 29/07/2025 11:23

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/07/2025 11:18

@SanFranBear well, i think they are running a taxi service. they are picking up people who are in boats which are perfectly serviceable. nothing wrong with the boats, so the people are not in danger. i will not be donating to them again and know many, many others who also refuse to donate to them! all those people on the boats come of the rnli with new iphones. who is providing those?? the uk government should be patrolling the channel and turning the boats round back towards france. as for feeling sorry, where are the mothers, why are they mostly strong young males? If there are mothers, why have they endangered their childrens' lives? they are meant to stop in the first country they reach! think of me what you want!

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Well luckily according to this post you’re in the minority.

And the RNLI don’t agree with you either.

Pancakeaddict · 29/07/2025 11:23

Smallsalt · 29/07/2025 11:12

This country entered multiple countries around the world illegally and in much greater numbers.
Generally the desperate immigrants are from desperate counties are in desperate situations, due to British interference directly or indirectly.

The largest British presence outside of Britain during the height of empire was in India and was less than 150,000 people. I think the EITC's army was 67,000 at it's largest. This was a deliberate choice by colonial powers which were not there "illegally" but used legal financial and political means to exert power over the native populations of those countries. They often started off as legal, voluntary agreements which escalated into British rule. The number of white people in these countries was kept deliberately low to not concern the native populations - this was an explicit and deliberate choice made by colonial powers at the time. There have in total been 170,000 who have crossed by small boat since 2018.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 29/07/2025 11:23

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/07/2025 11:18

@SanFranBear well, i think they are running a taxi service. they are picking up people who are in boats which are perfectly serviceable. nothing wrong with the boats, so the people are not in danger. i will not be donating to them again and know many, many others who also refuse to donate to them! all those people on the boats come of the rnli with new iphones. who is providing those?? the uk government should be patrolling the channel and turning the boats round back towards france. as for feeling sorry, where are the mothers, why are they mostly strong young males? If there are mothers, why have they endangered their childrens' lives? they are meant to stop in the first country they reach! think of me what you want!

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Think of you as we want? Well, yes, obviously, we will and lots of us will be judging you. I mean, what kind of character would begrudge the RNLI rescuing a drowning person? It speaks volumes about who you are.

The good news is that donations to the RNLI skyrocket whenever Farage and his cronies make stupid comments about taxi services etc. Because most people are fundamentally decent.

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:24

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/07/2025 11:18

@SanFranBear well, i think they are running a taxi service. they are picking up people who are in boats which are perfectly serviceable. nothing wrong with the boats, so the people are not in danger. i will not be donating to them again and know many, many others who also refuse to donate to them! all those people on the boats come of the rnli with new iphones. who is providing those?? the uk government should be patrolling the channel and turning the boats round back towards france. as for feeling sorry, where are the mothers, why are they mostly strong young males? If there are mothers, why have they endangered their childrens' lives? they are meant to stop in the first country they reach! think of me what you want!

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Since you despise them so much, let's hope you don't need their help one day. I'm guessing you will feel entitled to their help then because you're born here or something

Lilaclinacre · 29/07/2025 11:24

I don't agree with illegal immigrants full stop but I wouldn't want to live in a country that allows them to drown.

Zebedee999 · 29/07/2025 11:24

KassandraOfSparta · 29/07/2025 11:17

And then you're back into the argument that nobody leaving France is in "mortal danger".

The whole system is a mess and Labour really need to get a handle on it or Farage will goosestep into No 10 next election. People are worried about the "boat people", because they are by and large young men. The system can't cope with them, it would be a different matter if asylum claims were heard in a week but they're not. Get across the Channel and you're guaranteed at least a year here before your claim is decided, that gives you loads of time to disappear into the grey economy anywhere in the UK.

There are no easy answers to this but shouting down people who raise concerns isn't helpful. We need to be having these discussions.

Correct.

This all started in 2010 when Gordon brown called Gillian Duffy a bigot for raising concerns about mass immigration. Thornberry doubled down by abusing white van man and his England flags. Starmer continues it with two tier justice.

why are the authorities (and labour and their supporters in particular) so keen to stop debate on immigration especially from the working class? God forbid a working class person speaks out about being unable to get accommodation….Labour will jump down their throat with their go to bigot or racist retorts designed to silence the masses.

TherelsALightThatNeverGoesOut · 29/07/2025 11:24

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/07/2025 11:18

@SanFranBear well, i think they are running a taxi service. they are picking up people who are in boats which are perfectly serviceable. nothing wrong with the boats, so the people are not in danger. i will not be donating to them again and know many, many others who also refuse to donate to them! all those people on the boats come of the rnli with new iphones. who is providing those?? the uk government should be patrolling the channel and turning the boats round back towards france. as for feeling sorry, where are the mothers, why are they mostly strong young males? If there are mothers, why have they endangered their childrens' lives? they are meant to stop in the first country they reach! think of me what you want!

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This has to be parody.

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:24

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 29/07/2025 11:23

Think of you as we want? Well, yes, obviously, we will and lots of us will be judging you. I mean, what kind of character would begrudge the RNLI rescuing a drowning person? It speaks volumes about who you are.

The good news is that donations to the RNLI skyrocket whenever Farage and his cronies make stupid comments about taxi services etc. Because most people are fundamentally decent.

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Yep next time I'm stopped by the RNLI, I will make a donation and tell them why

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 29/07/2025 11:25

Of course all people should be saved from peril - in whatever form that takes.

However, these people have put themselves in danger with the knowledge that they will be saved - yes they should be saved - but there are conversations about this situation that need to happen.

wonderstuff · 29/07/2025 11:25

Of course they are right. I’ve just donated. Honestly how desperate must you be to get in a boat in the first place? We could stop the boats immediately if we had a processing centre for refugees in mainland Europe.

PrincessofWells · 29/07/2025 11:26

MandyMotherOfBrian · 29/07/2025 10:10

…and yes to the donations, I shall do so now…

Me too :)

wonderstuff · 29/07/2025 11:26

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 29/07/2025 11:25

Of course all people should be saved from peril - in whatever form that takes.

However, these people have put themselves in danger with the knowledge that they will be saved - yes they should be saved - but there are conversations about this situation that need to happen.

They aren’t always saved though. People have died.

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:26

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 29/07/2025 11:25

Of course all people should be saved from peril - in whatever form that takes.

However, these people have put themselves in danger with the knowledge that they will be saved - yes they should be saved - but there are conversations about this situation that need to happen.

You can have whatever convos you want, it's not going to make the RNLI become morally bankrupt.

Zebedee999 · 29/07/2025 11:27

Simonjt · 29/07/2025 11:08

Can you detail which law you personally believe is being broken?

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British law and international law. Already covered above.

Pancakeaddict · 29/07/2025 11:27

BlankBlankBlank14 · 29/07/2025 10:50

Could you send a link to that? Are you saying they chose migrants above kayakers? Or they chose to delegate less risky recoveries to people able to help?

Those people could’ve of course said .. no.

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I think someone else had said this but it is an expectation of those at sea to help in any way possible in situations where lives are at risk. I saw it on local news at the time and remembered it because for me it felt like a threshold had been crossed. This article states the same thing

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/31/coastguard-overloaded-with-migrant-rescues-sos-fishermen/

Vinvertebrate · 29/07/2025 11:27

TheHouseofElrig · 29/07/2025 10:55

No one puts their child on a dinghy unless the water is safer than the land they are leaving.

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God yes, I hear Hauts-de-France is a terrible place, nothing but rain and moules frites. 🙄

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:28

Zebedee999 · 29/07/2025 11:27

British law and international law. Already covered above.

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No, you haven't covered which law. So can you name which law?

TherelsALightThatNeverGoesOut · 29/07/2025 11:28

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:24

Yep next time I'm stopped by the RNLI, I will make a donation and tell them why

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Me too. Might even screenshot that vile post and show them so they can see first hand why.

Thanks for prompting me and others to donate, @SanFranBear . You've helped people in peril in the Channel and elsewhere. Maybe even you or one of your loved ones.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 29/07/2025 11:28

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 29/07/2025 11:25

Of course all people should be saved from peril - in whatever form that takes.

However, these people have put themselves in danger with the knowledge that they will be saved - yes they should be saved - but there are conversations about this situation that need to happen.

They’re not all saved, don’t be ridiculous and they don’t know they’ll be saved.

Simonjt · 29/07/2025 11:29

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:28

No, you haven't covered which law. So can you name which law?

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I think they are finding google quite challenging.

Saladbar · 29/07/2025 11:30

The UK has an insane migrant issue. But it’s not on the RNLI. But to act like these illegal migrants should all be welcomed is crazy. The UK make it easier for illegal migrants than legal migrants.

Smallsalt · 29/07/2025 11:32

Pancakeaddict · 29/07/2025 11:23

The largest British presence outside of Britain during the height of empire was in India and was less than 150,000 people. I think the EITC's army was 67,000 at it's largest. This was a deliberate choice by colonial powers which were not there "illegally" but used legal financial and political means to exert power over the native populations of those countries. They often started off as legal, voluntary agreements which escalated into British rule. The number of white people in these countries was kept deliberately low to not concern the native populations - this was an explicit and deliberate choice made by colonial powers at the time. There have in total been 170,000 who have crossed by small boat since 2018.

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Ask the ordinary people if any country who didn't benefit from the stitch up how legal it all was.

"colonial powers which were not there "illegally" but used legal financial and political means to exert power over the native populations of those countries“

I mean seriously🙄

India might have only had 150k Brits, but they certainly harvested more wealth than current immigrants will get in benefits.

There are also rather a few more countries than India where Britain has dabbled, or should I say "used legal financial and political means to exert power over the native populations of those countries"

pointythings · 29/07/2025 11:33

Zebedee999 · 29/07/2025 11:18

Yes it is. You are peddling lies

British law requires a visa or other special permission to enter the country. Punishable by four years in prison.
If on arrival they claim asylum then any criminal case is put on hold pending an outcome.
However that asylum claim “should” be invalidated as international law requires people to claim asylum in the first safe country they enter… which isn’t the uk.

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International law requires no such thing. That is a myth, still eagerly peddled by xenophobes and racists.

Frenchbluesea · 29/07/2025 11:34

2dogsandabudgie · 29/07/2025 10:49

I think anyone who puts a child in a boat to cross the channel knowing that the child is at risk of drowning should be charged with negligence and if the child does actually drown, as some have, should be charged with manslaughter.

No one NEEDS to cross the channel in a small boat.

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You are very ignorant if you think that

Nsvdi · 29/07/2025 11:34

I agree the RNLI are right to save people in the sea. Leaving someone to drown, when you could rescue them is sick beyond words.

That said, we have a serious problem with these small boats. I'm not referring to the migrants in hotels or whatever once they get here. I'm referring to the fact that human beings are in the sea like this. It's horrifically dangerous, operated by gangs and must be stopped. No human being should be in this situation, ever.