To think the RNLI are 100% in the right

[SanFranBear]

I've just seen this story on the BBC news homepage where the RNLI are being accused of acting as a taxi service for migrants trying to enter the UK on small boats from Europe.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dejyg4l37o

The organisation and volunteers quite rightly have responded to say they make no apologies for saving lives at sea and that their work has no political motivation.

Damn straight - one of the volunteers further down the article explains the profound impact he feels of encountering people struggling in our waters.

It makes me wonder what critics of the service expect them to do - just sail away, leaving the people to die? Pick them up and cross the channel to dump them back 'where they came from'?

What is wrong with them? Where is their compassion? Regardless of your thoughts on immigration, this is so cold and inhuman....

On security it’s far better to vet people before they enter. A system that is not chaotic, dangerous and frankly bizarre with French police in riot gear on their beaches and pick ups at ours.

Get away from that and there is a humanitarian quota system where people can be vetted.

And no it doesn’t mean simply putting in safe routes. No one has done that as it’s not feasible due to high demand.

This has been explained so many times I can only conclude you don’t really want to know.

It isn’t. We take relatively few refugees.

Your post to DuncinToffee was vile. You should apologise.

Hopefully this sheds more light -

Others call for the Navy to “push the boats back” or “return the people to France where they came from”. This is simply not viable without political agreement because UK vessels would need permission to enter French waters as they are no longer conducting ‘innocent passage’ under UN Convention on Law of the sea (UNCLOS) rules.
https://www.navylookout.com/why-its-not-the-royal-navys-job-to-stop-migrant-boats/

I don’t think the questions regarding what British culture is are implying there isn’t one, rather trying to fathom out what about it is ‘under threat’.

Because you aren’t at risk of torture or death or extreme discrimination if you stay here.

Do you agree there is a British culture?

All Eritrean men?
British men commit offences at a fairly high rate too. Should we blame all of them or just the criminal ones?

Well…British, no. English, Scottish, Welsh, NI, yes. Bu5 British is a good enough shorthand.
I just don’t think it’s under threat from refugees. The far right like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, yes. Billionaires, yes. Refugees, no.

Ooh we seem to take a lot of migrants or asylum seekers so I don’t think that is true

You think that the majority of British people riot outside hotels?

You need to take a closer look at your friendship group if you think this.

It was obviously a joke.

Interesting. Which billionaires in this country do you think we are under threat from?

We are way down the list numbers wise:

Not sure why you would think rioting is funny.

Neither am I, because I don't. But carry on carping if you wish.

I think it’s more likely posters won’t put anything positive about British culture. Usually the bad stuff.

So would it be legal for the RNLI to drop them back in France?

If they’re at risk of these then presumably their wives, children, mothers, and fathers are also at risk. Why did they leave them behind?

No of course not all Eritrean men, as it isn't all British men either. I used Eritrea as an example of cultural differences towards women and girls, as that is currently the most common country of origin for small boats arrivals.
There is clearly an issue though as per the government's own advice which warns women specifically of the dangers from men in that country. I don't think it's wrong to question whether those attitudes towards women are also arriving on our shores.

We don’t when compared to most other countries. Not even per capita. About 0.6% of our population came as asylum seekers. According to the HomeOffice, asylum seekers from all sources amounted to 16% of immigration in 2024 (that includes, for eg, Ukrainians).
In 2024 there were 16 asylum applications per 10,000 people in the U.K. compared to the EU average of 22 per 10,000. Cyprus had the highest EU rate, probably because it’s closer to conflicts and most refugees do stop close to home in the hope they can return one day.

The existence of increasing numbers of multi millionaires and billionaires threatens society and culture because they are taking wealth out of circulation and making everyone else poorer. That increases tensions and pits people against each other. It threatens a lot of our cultural norms like politeness and tolerance.

That’s been explained a million times, including on this very thread.

But you said letting Eritrean men in would make our cities unsafe. Letting violent men be at large does. Most of those aren’t Eritrean. And now you agree not all (or even most?) Eritrean men.