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To feel sad about DS loss of BFF

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Celeste123 · 24/07/2025 10:21

Is it common for long standing childhood friendships to end in secondary school?
DS had an absolute best friend all through primary school, from reception to yr 6.
They were well known as being best friends and people used to say to me "They'll be friends for life those 2" because they were so close. My phone is filled with pictures of the 2 of them smiling and laughing together all through the ages from age 5 till 11.
Our families became good friends and we all spent days out together, meals at each others houses, birthdays together, met up in school hols, BBQs, camping trips, pub lunches, etc.
At the very end of yr 6 DS and BF hit problems and began to fall out. DS didn't like the way BF had suddenly started to behave towards him and towards other kids at school. BF suddenly - from around Easter of yr 6 onwards - developed lots of shouting, ordering around, setting extreme rules, name calling, mocking, put down comments, aggressive behaviour, controlling behaviour, paranoid thoughts, obsessive behaviour, threats, began telling a lot of lies about DS and then after all that he dumped DS to go and hang out with what he saw as the 'cool boys'. DS started pushing back at him at start of yr 7 and it led to a fall out, culminating in BF hitting DS.
BF's mum tried to repair their falling out and kept asking me if we (DS, me, her and her DS) would meet up for a sit down discussion about their friendship problems. But DS didn't want to do this and very clearly said to me that he had been treated really badly by BF for months by that point (turns out it had been going on for longer than I'd realised) and that he didn't want to sit down in a meeting and talk through friendship issues when his friend was treating him so badly that DS had started to develop anxiety in response to all the shouting and aggression and being lied about by said friend.
Me and DH completely agreed with him on this and became angry that the mum kept pushing for a meeting to talk about their friendship. I saw it as my duty to stand by DS's wishes and respect him not wanting to meet to discuss these problems. His BF's behaviour was already causing him anxiety and the thought of sitting down with him and his mother caused him even greater anxiety. I completely understood why he didn't want to have this meeting, and I didn't want to have a meeting either because by now I didn't want to repair their friendship, I wanted to keep DS away from his behaviour, not meet up to put him back in to a toxic situation.
When I declined to meet up, the friend's DM, by now a good friend of mine, kept pushing to meet up for a talk. The more I said No, the more she pushed. Ultimately that led to her getting cross with me and we stopped talking and our friendship came to a halt.
Then I found out she was talking about my DS to mutual friends and telling them things about him that aren't true (lies that her DS had told her). This made me livid. I never said a word about her DS's behaviour to any mutual friends as I considered it morally wrong to speak about another person's child's bad behaviour to mutual friends.
Anyway, we've now reached the end of year 8 and the 2 of them haven't spoken for the past 2 years. They're at the same secondary school together and are in the same classes for some subjects. And as adult friends we haven't spoken either.
I asked DS the other day how he's feeling about ex-BF now, and he simply said "I dont know him anymore. He's a completely different person to the one I was friends with through primary school. He really hurt me badly and that lasted for a long time, but I've moved on now and I'm getting on with my life".
When this friend first dumped him, DS was lost and very upset and went through quite a horrible time for the first few months of yr 7 because of it. His BF was going round school telling everyone he wanted DS to die, and everyone was reporting this to DS and it had a pretty bad impact on him.
But over the past 18 months, DS has made new friends at school and has strengthened previously existing friendships. He now has a variety of different friends, instead of 1 significant main best friend. These friends call for him, invite him out, make plans with him, he gets birthday party invites, goes for days out with them, has sleepovers with them, and they're all different friends so he hasn't got one particular set of friends.
Yet still, I can't help feeling sad about DS losing his BF like that, and in that way.
I'm sad that a friendship that DS loved so much through all of his younger childhood years ended so badly and no longer exists. They've got so many years of shared happy memories up until the age of 10/11. DS genuinely loved him up until his behaviour towards DS radically changed in second half of yr 6.
So.......what I'd like to know is, is it common or uncommon for long standing (as in years long) primary school best friend friendships to die a death at the start of secondary school?
I don't know anyone else in this situation.
I see so many children in DS's year group all hanging out happily together at the park, who are in yr 8 now and have been best friends since they started primary school or even nursery.
Feels like DS is the only one this has happened to which is what's making me sad for him.

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Lanzarotelady · 24/07/2025 10:22

You are far too invested in this friendship!

Lanzarotelady · 24/07/2025 10:23

Feels like DS is the only one this has happened to which is what's making me sad for him.

You're being dramatic!

stackhead · 24/07/2025 10:24

You are far too invested in your DS friendships.

I also don't understand why you and other mum couldn't have continued your friendship outside of the boys?

Meh. Drama. Move on. Your DS obviously has.

Judiezones · 24/07/2025 10:28

Don't interfere in your children's friendships. They find their own friends and nothing is worse than being forced by your mum to be friends with someone you don't like.

yeesh · 24/07/2025 10:28

This is all so dramatic. Kids grown up and change and sometimes friendships change. You & the other mother have made this much worse by being so involved, what a lot of pressure for 2 kids. Are you friends with anyone you were in primary school with? It’s quite unusual as an adult I would think.

theresapossuminthekitchen · 24/07/2025 10:28

Yes, it’s very common. It’s also common for those kinds of friendships to be lifelong. It’s a shame that it ended so badly but it’s great that your son has moved on. It’s well past time for you to move on - you are massively over-invested in your son’s life and you need to reel that back in. He’s reached a stage where you will be less and less involved in his friendships/relationships and it will cause you a lot of unnecessary stress if you let it.

superking · 24/07/2025 10:28

It's very normal for friendship groups to change completely when kids move to secondary. It sounds like your DS now has a great group of friends and is happy and that's the important thing.

Having said that, I am still nostalgic for the close friends that my 12yo had in primary and if those friendships had ended in such a horrible way I'm sure I would have found it very upsetting. So I think your feelings are completely understandable but you need to move on and focus on the present and the future.

DominoDaancing · 24/07/2025 10:29

I understand why you feel sad - and you will have posters saying you are too invested etc, but I am probably quite similar to you, and over think these things!

I reckon to answer your question, that it's fairly common. As they move to new schools, meet new people and develop their own identities more, things change. It's a shame they fell out, rather than drifted apart though.

I wouldn't feel too sad about it though. You will find over time that there are things like this that feel very important at the time, but really are just part of life, part of growing up. It's great your DS has new friends, and a variety, who include him and make him happy. He sounds great! Be happy for the bright future and don't dwell on the past. Hard sometimes I know!

Endofyear · 24/07/2025 10:40

Of course it's sad for a friendship to break down, but not uncommon when starting secondary school. Your DS has friends now and is happy so you need to let it go. I don't think having and exclusive and intense 'best friend' is very healthy anyway - much better for your DS to have a group of different friends.

grandschemeofthings · 24/07/2025 10:48

Super common. Happened to both my kids, albeit no drama with the eldest and lots with the youngest.

DS1 (15) and his best friend were put in the same class when they moved to secondary but drifted very quickly and were barely acquaintances by the end of first term. He now has an amazing group of new mates who are totally his tribe.

DS2's best friend turned on him end of Yr6 and has been a nightmare this year (Yr7), full on bullying behaviour. It's been very tough because they're still both part of the same wider friendship group so he can't just ditch him without alienating himself completely until he's built other friendships. But personally, I don't mourn that friendship on his behalf. As much as they were close at primary the boy the other child has matured into is not someone I want my kid hanging out with so I'm actually proud of DS for standing up for himself as much as he has.

Seeline · 24/07/2025 10:48

It's very common for friendship groups to change completely at the start of Y7. That's why when parents are anxious that their DC are starting a different senior school from friends, they are usually told not to worry, as the friendships rarely last anyway.

You Ds sounds incredibly mature for his age. To be honest, I would have encouraged a cooling of the friendship the moment the other kid started shouting at your Ds and imposing rules.

He seems to have navigated the separation very well and found a new, larger group of friends, which will likely be of benefit in the long run.

I think you need to stop thinking about it and stop bringing it up with your DS - it won't help him. The mother sounds horrible, and you are better off not having her as a friend as well.

mamagogo1 · 24/07/2025 10:51

Friendships change over time. In particular kids mature at different rates and crucially interests change. Step back and realise they are different people now

SugarMarshmallow · 24/07/2025 10:59

Are you still friends with all your besties from year 3 OP?

Marmalade71 · 24/07/2025 11:05

How many friendships from early days of primary school last into secondary? Very few. This seems have had a particularly nasty end as opposed to the much more common drift but honestly - nobody needs drama, certainly not your lad

cloudtreecarpet · 24/07/2025 11:08

Yes, it's common.
Neither of my two (older teens) are friends with the same friends they had in Primary School.
I think the fact that clouds the situation here is that you became close as families so you are feeling the loss more than if that hadn't been the case.

Look on the bright side - that kind of upset really affects some children & knocks their confidence whereas your son has dealt with it, learnt from it & moved on.
For his sake you also need to let it go now too & be proud of the sensible, resilient child you have raised.

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 24/07/2025 11:11

Happened to my son. He had a core group of friends through junior school and went to high school and all good. Then it wasn’t. He became the scapegoat of the group and ostracised and bullied by his friendship group but he went on to make a new group of friends. It’s horrible to watch as a parent but all you can do is support. Although I do have to say you sound overly invested. He’s happy so be happy for him. As long as he isn’t sat alone at breaks and has some pals then all is good.

Fairyliz · 24/07/2025 11:17

Yes incredible common. Both of my DC’s went to secondary with their friends from primary, no falling out.
However I would say by the end of the first week they both had new groups of friends and barely spoke to the ones from primary.

champagnetrial · 24/07/2025 11:19

So.......what I'd like to know is, is it common or uncommon for long standing (as in years long) primary school best friend friendships to die a death at the start of secondary school?

The answer to that question is yes, it is very common.

The bit about you being sad (and the details!), especially when your DS has clearly told you he has moved on, is, honestly - all the drama.

flumposie · 24/07/2025 11:22

Yes. My daughter was dropped/ ghosted by her best friend of 8 years at the end of Year 8. Her friend simply never contacted her/ replied to my daughter's messages over the summer holiday. They are still in the same form and classes together but have little to do with each other. It was awful to watch. My daughter has different friends now.

Celeste123 · 24/07/2025 11:23

SugarMarshmallow · 24/07/2025 10:59

Are you still friends with all your besties from year 3 OP?

Yes, I am.
My 2 closest friends are ones I've had since I was 5.
I've got other friends too of course, added through life from secondary school, college, Uni, different work places, mum friends, exercise group friends, neighbours....
But the 2 that know me the best are those 2 lifelong friends.

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FrankyGoesToBollywood · 24/07/2025 11:28

You’re thinking about this way too much. Sounds like everyone else has moved on, you need to as well.

SugarMarshmallow · 24/07/2025 11:32

Celeste123 · 24/07/2025 11:23

Yes, I am.
My 2 closest friends are ones I've had since I was 5.
I've got other friends too of course, added through life from secondary school, college, Uni, different work places, mum friends, exercise group friends, neighbours....
But the 2 that know me the best are those 2 lifelong friends.

Edited

I can’t help but think you’re quite naive if you think everyone on the planet keeps every best friend they make, even those in primary school. You just know it’s common to lose friends? Drift apart?

Your title of this thread is quite dramatic too

Celeste123 · 24/07/2025 11:36

"I think the fact that clouds the situation here is that you became close as families so you are feeling the loss more than if that hadn't been the case."
Yes, this is true.
I had grown really close to this boy's mum over the years. My other child had grown very close to the boy's sibling. And both DHs were friends. So as a whole family we've lost a very close family friendship who we live 5 minutes away from and see around all of the time. Plus we have mutual friends who we all used to socialise with together, which has made things awkward.
I used to look after this boy and his siblings a lot over the years whilst his mum worked, and he spent years round at our house and coming out with us on days out.
Had it been a friend of DS's who I didn't really know very well, and whose family I didn't know, and who we didn't live within close proximity to and didn't have mutual friends, I'm sure I'd be much more c'est la vie about it.

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PurpleThistle7 · 24/07/2025 11:42

Yes it’s common and yes it happened to my daughter in very similar circumstances. Almost had to call the police as it disintegrated into racist bullying. I’ve always been careful though to remember that any casual friendship I have via my children’s friends is situational and to ensure I don’t get too invested. I’m sorry you’re hurting but it sounds like your son is past it and you should figure out how to move on yourself. It’s been years now and I’m sure you have plenty else going on in your life without this one family.

WhatNoRaisins · 24/07/2025 11:45

Something can very normal, even inevitable and yet said and difficult to process. I think you've done the right thing putting your DS first and even if he's fine it's ok for you to grieve what's been lost here.