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Thread 10: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 23/07/2025 21:20

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found
3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video
4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn
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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - No saltiness. Keep to the path. Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for nine very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

Keep calm and eat fudge.

Thank you

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Orangesandlemons77 · 25/07/2025 17:32

User14March · 25/07/2025 17:15

We don’t have sight of early ones for context,

What puzzles me if told to take care on uneven ground & not get over tired why you’d think it was a good idea to do the walk? I’d try & prevent my husband doing it, not encourage. A stroll outside, sure, but that? Let alone with no proper food & then forgetting needed meds.

If there were earlier ones.. none seem to have been shown

Divegirl65 · 25/07/2025 17:35

User14March · 25/07/2025 17:29

TSP

”what had the consultant said just three months ago? ‘Don’t tire yourself or walk too far and be careful on the stairs. Don’t carry heavy weights or plan too far ahead’.

Yes! Thank you. I had to search my kindle edition to find it!

TheBrandyPath · 25/07/2025 17:38

Do we have any context for them being taken to Bristol? A common reason people, who are in Cornwall/N Devon would be driven to Bristol, is to go to the airport. I understand they were in Cornwall - being narrow it is not too far from a railway station - some trains then go right through to Paddington, Birmingham or even Aberdeen.

MargaretThursday · 25/07/2025 17:40

But he always could tell a good story. He’d told stories in builders’ snap cabins, in queues for the bus, to children on his garden tours, to the visitors in our barn, to anyone who sat still for too long. Captivating people with his tales of everything from history to botany. [...] He’s always had such a loud voice, never one to whisper.

I know someone who says similar about their dh. "He'll talk to anyone. People love talking to him; he's just so sociable, people stay for hours listening to him," said in an admiring tone.
When you first meet them, you take it on face value, and, yes, he is always striking up long conversations with randomers.
But then as you get to know them, you realise that he's not striking up conversation, he's monologing at them about one of his pet topics. People stay because they're polite, not because they're interested and can't find a way to break in and move on.
It's actually really sad watching because both of them think that people adore him, but it isn't the reality.

Redheadedstepchild · 25/07/2025 17:49

MargaretThursday · 25/07/2025 17:40

But he always could tell a good story. He’d told stories in builders’ snap cabins, in queues for the bus, to children on his garden tours, to the visitors in our barn, to anyone who sat still for too long. Captivating people with his tales of everything from history to botany. [...] He’s always had such a loud voice, never one to whisper.

I know someone who says similar about their dh. "He'll talk to anyone. People love talking to him; he's just so sociable, people stay for hours listening to him," said in an admiring tone.
When you first meet them, you take it on face value, and, yes, he is always striking up long conversations with randomers.
But then as you get to know them, you realise that he's not striking up conversation, he's monologing at them about one of his pet topics. People stay because they're polite, not because they're interested and can't find a way to break in and move on.
It's actually really sad watching because both of them think that people adore him, but it isn't the reality.

In more common parlance, he would be called, "The pub bore."

Catwith69lives · 25/07/2025 17:53

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AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 25/07/2025 17:56

User14March · 25/07/2025 16:53

To add not the saying goodbye part - Moth says that after another later apt to Bill at cider farm, lasting until Christmas.

I just can't imagine how mortified I'd be if I'd told someone I only had two months to live, had accepted all their sympathy and goodwill but nearly four years later was still knocking around.
But these two are just like 🤷.

User14March · 25/07/2025 17:57

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Could there be another interpretation here & that’s why Mum & Dad were not so keen on her marrying him? Or even this backdrop alone might worry some parents.

Choux · 25/07/2025 18:11

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Which doesn’t tally at all with what someone quoted upthread about a book (TWS?) telling of Moth and Ray at his house and him waving to a woman across the street saying ‘I have been waving at her my whole life’ ie he was at the family home with RaySal.

AlertCat · 25/07/2025 18:12

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Thanks. This does not ring true given what’s written in TWS about them canoodling in his bedroom at his parents’ house and his dad giving them lifts and conniving to deceive SalRay’s parents about the trip.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!

Looks like they can’t keep things straight at all. Too many lies and inconsistencies about their lives.

exasperatedflatmate · 25/07/2025 18:27

MargaretThursday · 25/07/2025 17:40

But he always could tell a good story. He’d told stories in builders’ snap cabins, in queues for the bus, to children on his garden tours, to the visitors in our barn, to anyone who sat still for too long. Captivating people with his tales of everything from history to botany. [...] He’s always had such a loud voice, never one to whisper.

I know someone who says similar about their dh. "He'll talk to anyone. People love talking to him; he's just so sociable, people stay for hours listening to him," said in an admiring tone.
When you first meet them, you take it on face value, and, yes, he is always striking up long conversations with randomers.
But then as you get to know them, you realise that he's not striking up conversation, he's monologing at them about one of his pet topics. People stay because they're polite, not because they're interested and can't find a way to break in and move on.
It's actually really sad watching because both of them think that people adore him, but it isn't the reality.

Urgh. DH was at university with someone like this. He’s The only friend I actively disapprove of. I call him Sir Shoutalot. Always telling a yarn in a loud, faux Cornish accent. He’s a bit like Flash from Blackadder but without the good looks.

Redheadedstepchild · 25/07/2025 18:28

@Catwith69lives Thankyou for posting that article with Katherine May. I must say, in some senses, I don't blame Sally for instantly falling for Tim and thinking, "He's the one for me!"

Dipping a Mars Bar into a cup of tea is so unspeakably erotic that it shouldn't be allowed.

But perhaps here we see the origin of the recurrent fudge theft.

User14March · 25/07/2025 18:32

AlertCat · 25/07/2025 18:12

Thanks. This does not ring true given what’s written in TWS about them canoodling in his bedroom at his parents’ house and his dad giving them lifts and conniving to deceive SalRay’s parents about the trip.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!

Looks like they can’t keep things straight at all. Too many lies and inconsistencies about their lives.

Was he thrown out of home at 16, went off rails & came to what Ray describes as sixth form college to retake or study a year or two behind cohort?

Catwith69lives · 25/07/2025 18:32

AlertCat · 25/07/2025 18:12

Thanks. This does not ring true given what’s written in TWS about them canoodling in his bedroom at his parents’ house and his dad giving them lifts and conniving to deceive SalRay’s parents about the trip.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!

Looks like they can’t keep things straight at all. Too many lies and inconsistencies about their lives.

She says it was before they met - ie when he was 16 and she was 14....

Redheadedstepchild · 25/07/2025 18:45

Redheadedstepchild · 25/07/2025 18:28

@Catwith69lives Thankyou for posting that article with Katherine May. I must say, in some senses, I don't blame Sally for instantly falling for Tim and thinking, "He's the one for me!"

Dipping a Mars Bar into a cup of tea is so unspeakably erotic that it shouldn't be allowed.

But perhaps here we see the origin of the recurrent fudge theft.

And indeed, the, "Bring you own teabag." obsession.

MyGodMyThighs · 25/07/2025 18:51

Choux · 25/07/2025 13:07

Does anyone know where this photo was taken? It’s from the 2018 Independent article linked to a few pages back. I ask because that tent looks brand new and completely clean and shiny. It looks like it’s the first time it has been put up so the photo should be from the start of the SWCP. Unless they bought a new tent mid walk?

That looks like the dunes at Constantine (north coast Cornwall, near Padstow)

MyGodMyThighs · 25/07/2025 18:56

TheBrandyPath · 25/07/2025 14:49

@Choux I think this is taken at Lantic Bay - so the nearest bit of the SWCP to where they had settled at Polruan. It is probably just a photo opportunity to go with the article?

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not Lantic Bay. Headland is the wrong shape. Pretty sure it’s Constantine.

MyGodMyThighs · 25/07/2025 19:00

I don’t have my (signed first edition 😩) copy of TSP anymore. Can anyone with a copy pull out what Sally says about the Constantine stretch of the path? It might be interesting to see if/how it features, compared to the photo in that article.

TheBrandyPath · 25/07/2025 19:13

TheBrandyPath · 25/07/2025 15:54

You are right - the rock fooled me. I think I'll stick with what Moth wears, Jason's captivation, etc....

@MyGodMyThighs Everything is coming so thick and fast here now, isn't it ....

Arborea · 25/07/2025 19:19

Divegirl65 · 25/07/2025 15:22

Very interesting. Jason says (of the CBD diagnosis)

"He'd fallen through the roof of a barn — they were farmers — and the doctor said, “Oh no, it's not arthritis. It's a fatal neurological condition, and you don't have very long to live. You should go home and start making a plan and say goodbye to people. Be careful on the stairs.”

Is this what Moth told Jason during their chats?

They don't seem to have much luck with roofs do they? Wasn't there an article about their daughter having fallen through a roof during lockdown?

Divegirl65 · 25/07/2025 19:39

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It's Katherine May talking about her own husband. Not Raynor talking about Moth.

Thread 10: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
User14March · 25/07/2025 19:54

Divegirl65 · 25/07/2025 19:39

It's Katherine May talking about her own husband. Not Raynor talking about Moth.

Thank you - that clears that up.

User14March · 25/07/2025 19:57

Arborea · 25/07/2025 19:19

They don't seem to have much luck with roofs do they? Wasn't there an article about their daughter having fallen through a roof during lockdown?

Yes indeed, NB: earlier comments. Saga of chicken shop roof now removed from Penguin Ray website. Poss only a metaphorical tale in lockdown.

Divegirl65 · 25/07/2025 19:58

User14March · 25/07/2025 19:54

Thank you - that clears that up.

Quite sweet that Katherine's husband would say goodnight to the washing machine!

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