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Friend 'sobbing in the kitchen' over Ozzy Osborne

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lronWoman · 22/07/2025 22:08

I'm not generally a mean spirited person but I just can't take this seriously!

My friend has never been a Black Sabbath fan and I've never heard her mention Ozzy once in the 20 years I've known her. However, her and her sister are apparently 'beside themselves with grief' over his death.

I just don't understand this type of performative grief over A list celebrities that people have never met. It's sad and I get that it kind of marks the end of an era, but the guy lived to a ripe old age in the lap of luxury and was one of the most celebrated rock stars the world has ever known. It's not like a present day star has suddenly been cut down in their prime and will no longer be releasing new albums. They'd already released all their famous stuff before we were born.

She wasn't sobbing in the kitchen when an old mutual workmate died unexpectedly in his late 30s a fortnight ago. Guy wasn't a close friend of ours but we were friendly. Used to go to the pub as a group and he helped us move house, refusing to accept a penny for it. Really nice bloke! We hadn't seen him in close to a decade but both felt sad about it for a few days. But no sobbing in the kitchen!

Latest comment is "he's up there at the bar with gramps". I'm finding it hard not to make an inappropriate joke tbh!

OP posts:
hmmimnotsurewhy · 23/07/2025 10:28

It’s ok to feel a bit sad, but utter stupid and dumb to be crying over someone who doesn’t even know or would have cared about your existence. Leave her to be but if she does this again, just leave and walk out. No need to entertain this nonsense.

BadDinner · 23/07/2025 10:29

People have always been saddened and she'd a tear for a celebrity that means something to them.

I know people who were upset when The Apple founder guy died. I was completely baffled, but when Alexander McQueen died I was sad and shed a tear, due to having admired his work.

Of course Diana was on another scale. As would be expected. It's interesting that few people spoke disapprovingly of people who queued for hours and shed tears when the Queen died recently.

We grieve people we admire, people we've shared happy moments with (dancing along to their music, watching their acting with a loved one for example).

I have zero interest in Ozzy Osborne and my eyes are dryer than usual this morning, but can understand why it may impact others differently.

gannett · 23/07/2025 10:31

Yet again all I take from this is how much the OP dislikes her so-called "friend".

If you really think she's some sort of grief vulture who just wants to be the centre of attention, why are you friends with her in the first place?

If you're a real friend you'd be able to understand where she's coming from and what feelings might have been triggered, and make allowances even if she's behaving a bit OTT.

JHound · 23/07/2025 10:31

Shrugs.

Was even worse when Di died. People
are weird but it’s harmless.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 23/07/2025 10:33

gannett · 23/07/2025 10:31

Yet again all I take from this is how much the OP dislikes her so-called "friend".

If you really think she's some sort of grief vulture who just wants to be the centre of attention, why are you friends with her in the first place?

If you're a real friend you'd be able to understand where she's coming from and what feelings might have been triggered, and make allowances even if she's behaving a bit OTT.

Or she like me dislikes performative grief.

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 10:34

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

🤣🤣🤣

OP posts:
ChompandaGrazia · 23/07/2025 10:35

Feeling sad or crying over the death of a celebrity is fine. I cried when the Queen died because she had always been there and it was the end of an era. I thought it was very sad when Diana died as she was leaving young children behind. However there is a huge difference between feeling sad about it and having a cry etc and posting about it all over social media about how distraught you are.

Kreepture · 23/07/2025 10:41

it's a bit weird.

I'm an older metal head, and from Aston in brum, he was a massive part of my upbringing, the pride in my home city, my musical education and the cornerstone of an entire movement. Ozzy yelled into the Abyss so a generation could feel something more with their music. He was the inspiration for a generation and more. I've seen him in concert a couple of times.

Am i crying? I did shed a tear at one of the amazing tributes i came across from Yungblood, but sobbing in my kitchen? absolutely not.
am i sad? Yes. absolutely, it's the end of an era, the world feels a little less bright today, another Icon of Rock has passed.

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 10:41

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/07/2025 07:50

This is it. I wasn't sobbing when David Bowie died but he was a significant part of my teens and I was sad for that reason.

By the way, I don't think 76 is a ripe old age as per the OP, not these days. I'm 70 and not expecting to pop my clogs any time soon. Ozzy lived a rock'n"roll lifestyle which affected his health and also had Parkinsons. He became wealthy but grew up in a council tower block and never forgot that.

For an alcoholic and drug addict I'd say its a pretty good innings.

CandidUmberUser · 23/07/2025 10:42

😂😂😂

diamondpony80 · 23/07/2025 10:42

I feel for Sharon and his kids because I know what its like to lose someone, so I do empathize. But of course I don't know them or him personally so can't imagine crying over it. He lived a long, full life and his death wasn't totally unexpected seeing as he was ill. I was sadder about Malcolm Jamal Warner the previous day because he was a younger man and his death was totally unexpected (I was a big fan of the Cosby Show as a child). I didn't cry about it, but it does make you more aware of your own mortality when someone dies before their time.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/07/2025 10:45

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

Nasty.

kittensinthekitchen · 23/07/2025 10:46

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

Yeah, that's fucked up

Westfacing · 23/07/2025 10:47

I was never a Black Sabbath fan but earlier on the radio news they played that opening guitar riff on 'Paranoid' and was instantly transported back 55 years(!) to 1970 when I was 15 and felt overwhelmed with nostalgia and sadness at the passing of all that time!

When a major celebrity dies, especially one who's been around a long time, the media go into overdrive and some people get caught up in all the emotion - especially if there is a musical backdrop.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/07/2025 10:47

That’s a bit of a strange thing to say @YourBrickTiger.

AuntMarch · 23/07/2025 10:50

Well1mBack · 22/07/2025 22:18

Oh god yes that was so cringe. I was about 13 or 14 when that happened. My parents were nonplussed about the whole thing. We are Scottish though, it definitely was more muted up here, I mean, there were people sobbing in the streets on the news in England??? I didn't see anyone sobbing in the streets up here. It was sad, really sad for her and her family and the children but it was just such an odd reactionary thing. But I understand perhaps if it was due to what a PP said; that it releases suppressed grief when it's a famous person. That's the only thing that makes sense.

If I remember right it was the summer between primary and secondary school for me. I'd got up early to watch tv and saw the news. I went up and told my mum, she said "oh that's sad. Those poor children"
The next conversation about it was how we both found it quite disgusting the way people went on about it. It's not respectful, it's vile and attention seeking.

Re: Ozzie, I'd never be happy someone died of course, it is sad in a sense, but also hard to believe he lasted as long as he did!

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:50

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/07/2025 10:47

That’s a bit of a strange thing to say @YourBrickTiger.

Not at all, it's my life, my feelings. Can't divulge more about it, but if I explained it would make sense.

BunnyLake · 23/07/2025 10:51

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

What did she do to you to make it such a personal celebration?

BunnyLake · 23/07/2025 10:52

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:50

Not at all, it's my life, my feelings. Can't divulge more about it, but if I explained it would make sense.

Are you the ghost of Diana?

YouHaveAnArse · 23/07/2025 10:53

333FionaG · 22/07/2025 22:11

Sometimes the death of a celebrity opens the door to past losses and grief that have been buried emotionally. Don’t be too harsh.

This is it. A celebrity I like died recently and I was incredibly sad - not just because of the circumstances around it but because it made me think about other losses in my life; also how sad it is that a dead person isn't able to see just how loved they were and how sad everyone is that they've gone, which brought up memories of dark points in my own life.

It's weird and seems performative to some when it's someone like Ozzy Osbourne who lived a full life, but feelings are weird.

MaloryJones · 23/07/2025 10:53

RattyMcBatty · 22/07/2025 22:23

It's not necessarily grief for the person, but for a chapter of your life that feels like it's gone with them I think. People cried when Elvis Presley died because he and his music had given them something in their lives with which to identify I suppose.

Absolutely

I was 12 in 1977 and staying at my Elvis fan Aunt in Croydon .
All was fine with Her and then she walked to the shop to buy her daily papers and came back in pieces .
It certainly affected Her but she did not dwell on it. Probably the shock of it.
I was pretty shocked (and deeply saddened) at the death of Robin Williams so I kind of get it .

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 10:53

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:50

Not at all, it's my life, my feelings. Can't divulge more about it, but if I explained it would make sense.

Isn't that kind of related to the point OP made? Why make strange (and in this case, deeply unpleasant) statements at all if you're not prepared to elaborate on them?

In OP's case, her friend made a statement which might make sense if given a bit of context. Without the context, it looks like performative attention-seeking. Which your post did too, although much more unpleasant.

If I had feelings which I felt were justified but knew would make me sound horrible deranged without providing additional context, I would try to avoid expressing them publicly, unless I was really desperate for attention.

LakieLady · 23/07/2025 10:54

I just don't understand this type of performative grief over A list celebrities that people have never met.

Same here. I was sad when David Bowie died, and shocked by John Lennon's death because he was murdered, but I really don't understand the sort of mass outpouring that celebrity deaths seem to lead to.

soiledblogg · 23/07/2025 10:56

Obviously sad for Ozzys loved ones , but I think we all knew that Ozzys time on earth was coming to an end , so not a great suprise . We are born, we live hopefully a long happy life , and then we die . The circle of life .

Hollyhobbi · 23/07/2025 10:57

I cried when Sinead O’Connor died. But I literally grew up with her.