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Friend 'sobbing in the kitchen' over Ozzy Osborne

369 replies

lronWoman · 22/07/2025 22:08

I'm not generally a mean spirited person but I just can't take this seriously!

My friend has never been a Black Sabbath fan and I've never heard her mention Ozzy once in the 20 years I've known her. However, her and her sister are apparently 'beside themselves with grief' over his death.

I just don't understand this type of performative grief over A list celebrities that people have never met. It's sad and I get that it kind of marks the end of an era, but the guy lived to a ripe old age in the lap of luxury and was one of the most celebrated rock stars the world has ever known. It's not like a present day star has suddenly been cut down in their prime and will no longer be releasing new albums. They'd already released all their famous stuff before we were born.

She wasn't sobbing in the kitchen when an old mutual workmate died unexpectedly in his late 30s a fortnight ago. Guy wasn't a close friend of ours but we were friendly. Used to go to the pub as a group and he helped us move house, refusing to accept a penny for it. Really nice bloke! We hadn't seen him in close to a decade but both felt sad about it for a few days. But no sobbing in the kitchen!

Latest comment is "he's up there at the bar with gramps". I'm finding it hard not to make an inappropriate joke tbh!

OP posts:
Westfacing · 23/07/2025 10:57

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

That's a bit extreme! But that said, I doubt there will be much public sorrow.

Hollyhobbi · 23/07/2025 10:59

Forgot to say it wasn’t in public though. A friend at work admitted the same thing. She’s a few years younger than me but would also have listened to Sinead growing up.

Dontfuckingsaycheese · 23/07/2025 11:00

333FionaG · 22/07/2025 22:11

Sometimes the death of a celebrity opens the door to past losses and grief that have been buried emotionally. Don’t be too harsh.

Yep. When Diana died I had some really dark shit going down, but it channelled into grief for her, and I would never have said I was much of a fan.
Even now, the thought of her brings all that back.

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 11:00

Westfacing · 23/07/2025 10:57

That's a bit extreme! But that said, I doubt there will be much public sorrow.

Oh I will be having a street party lol

PopeJoan2 · 23/07/2025 11:00

Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 09:29

If he’d been speeding and wiped out another car and killed a family aswell as himself, would he have been so deserving of everyone’s grief?

By speeding so recklessly, he was endangering other people, not just himself. Makes him pretty selfish in my eyes.

Didn’t his brother die too? If so he was effectively a victim of the footballer’s speeding.

BlueandPinkSwan · 23/07/2025 11:03

I ignore grief vampires and those that do performance sobbing such as OP describe.
"Oh, that celeb Joe Bloggs is dead."
" So what?" I really don't care I really don't.

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:05

Didimum · 23/07/2025 08:13

It’s unnecessary to look down on people for it. It’s not as though they are doing anything wrong or mean-spirited, they are just having an emotional reaction. Death opens up a lot of doors in people, and often celebrity deaths can signal what feels like the end of an era and a connection to something in your past. Crying over a lost work colleague isn’t all that strange, she could be thinking about his family for example and just find it terribly sad.
(And no, I’ve never cried over a celeb death myself).

I swear MN is just becoming a place full of bullies sometimes.

I'd say there's a difference between shedding a tear in private and performative grief, though.

gannett · 23/07/2025 11:06

BlankBlankBlank14 · 23/07/2025 10:33

Or she like me dislikes performative grief.

So why is she "friends" with someone she thinks does performative grief?!

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:06

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/07/2025 10:47

That’s a bit of a strange thing to say @YourBrickTiger.

Surely a joke.

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PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:06

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 11:00

Oh I will be having a street party lol

That's fucking awful.

FleaDog · 23/07/2025 11:08

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

Harry, is that you? 😂

CoastalCalm · 23/07/2025 11:08

Not a fan of his music but having lost my dad to Parkinson’s I genuinely felt sad about it too mainly for his family

AuntMarch · 23/07/2025 11:10

sweetpickle2 · 23/07/2025 09:26

I find this kind of attitude really strange. Because he was speeding his doesn't deserve grief? He was someone's husband, someone's father.

I've lost loved ones who died due to their own poor decisions, doesn't make it any less sad.

I saw posts about how tragic it was from people who were commenting things like "fuck around and find out" when some teenagers died in an accident caused by the driver speeding locally. It is the double standard that is sickening - he was worth their grief only because he was good at football!

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 11:10

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:06

Surely a joke.

Well, they've doubled down on it so probably best ignored.

Just another one who craves attention. At least your mate isn't openly deranged offensive about it.

Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 11:14

AuntMarch · 23/07/2025 11:10

I saw posts about how tragic it was from people who were commenting things like "fuck around and find out" when some teenagers died in an accident caused by the driver speeding locally. It is the double standard that is sickening - he was worth their grief only because he was good at football!

Exactly. I reckon a lot of the same people commenting on the footballers death would not be so upset if it was the random bloke down the road who’d been speeding and killed himself.

But being a ‘celebrity’ seems to entitle you to be able to get away with poor behaviour choices.
As they used to say, live by the sword…

I find it quite sad that a newly married man with very young children felt that speeding in a super car was a risk he should take. Selfish, really.

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:15

gannett · 23/07/2025 10:31

Yet again all I take from this is how much the OP dislikes her so-called "friend".

If you really think she's some sort of grief vulture who just wants to be the centre of attention, why are you friends with her in the first place?

If you're a real friend you'd be able to understand where she's coming from and what feelings might have been triggered, and make allowances even if she's behaving a bit OTT.

🤣

Tbf I knew it was inevitable the mumsnet classic "doesn't sound as if you like her very much" would make an appearance.

In answer to this and the other posts asking why I'm friends with her, the answer is that it's possible to be friends with somebody and still find them a drama queen in some instances. It'd be a lonely existence if I limited my friend group to those blessed individuals that are perfect in every way!

OP posts:
lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:17

Must admit I did chuckle earlier when my friend claimed she'd always liked Stairway to Heaven before quickly editing the message. 🤣

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PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:18

Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 11:14

Exactly. I reckon a lot of the same people commenting on the footballers death would not be so upset if it was the random bloke down the road who’d been speeding and killed himself.

But being a ‘celebrity’ seems to entitle you to be able to get away with poor behaviour choices.
As they used to say, live by the sword…

I find it quite sad that a newly married man with very young children felt that speeding in a super car was a risk he should take. Selfish, really.

Absolutely. That must make the grief process so much harder for his poor wife and kids when they find out one day.

His actions scream hubris.

Didimum · 23/07/2025 11:20

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:05

I'd say there's a difference between shedding a tear in private and performative grief, though.

Well, MN is pretty obsessed with things being 'performative' to the extent it's just coming across as weird and intolerant of different people's personalities. Let people be.

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 11:21

FleaDog · 23/07/2025 11:08

Harry, is that you? 😂

No, it's that 60-year-old Aussie bloke who keeps claiming to be Charles' and Camilla's illegitimate son. The one that looks older than the pair of them (combined).

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/07/2025 11:24

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/07/2025 08:57

My mum was choked up when the Queen died, which really surprised me.
She didn’t shed a tear, but there was a little catch in her throat.

I think it just made her think about her own late mum.

I was sad when the Queen died even though it was inevitable. I was born two years after her coronation and she had been The Queen all my life and (sorry Camilla) always will be. It was a huge chunk of history.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 23/07/2025 11:28

I was the only person to cry at my FIL’s funeral which I found strange…

YouHaveAnArse · 23/07/2025 11:35

Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 09:24

The ridiculous outpouring on social media over that footballer killed in a car crash recently was crazy to me.
He was just a random man, people didn’t know him personally. It’s ok to think it’s sad, but the grief/sobbing and tributes were ridiculous.

Plus he was speeding. I don’t think people would be so lenient if some random bloke down the road killed himself in a speeding car.

Edited

That's because, I assume, you weren't a supporter/fan. Those of us who were watched him week in week out, had seen his family kicking a ball about on the pitch on the last day of the season when the players bring out their families, and would have known he was married less than a fortnight earlier. (Also, it's not confirmed that he was speeding, though it seems likely.) Even my mum, who doesn't know a thing about football, was sad about three very young children being left without a dad and two parents losing both their children.

Seeing Jordan Henderson visit the memorial and break down in front of it really set me off, and yes that might be ridiculous when a wealthy man I don't know is upset about the death of someone else I don't know, but why would that not be sad to see?

MaloryJones · 23/07/2025 11:35

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 11:21

No, it's that 60-year-old Aussie bloke who keeps claiming to be Charles' and Camilla's illegitimate son. The one that looks older than the pair of them (combined).

😆😆

WooleyMunky · 23/07/2025 11:35

NooNakedJacuzziness · 23/07/2025 07:40

Wait until she sees some of the AI images going round of Ozzy being reunited with Lemmy/Kurt Cobain, etc at the Pearly Gates 🫣

Not that bloody staircase again? Is Captain Tom waiting for him at the top with that alpaca?

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