Working expectations for parents on UC

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AIBU to find this really frustrating? Basically there is no expectation for parents to work until their child is age 3. So if a family has more than one child that could be several years.

Whereas maternity leave is only 9-12months.

Especially as universal credit claimants can actually get help towards childcare expenses.

I don’t understand why there is a mismatch between the employed and unemployed?

When I went back after maternity, my pay was around £1500 and my childcare £800, then after I went back with my second my childcare went up to £1200. So I earnt next to nothing for 5 years before the eldest started school.

It’s a shame half of them end up with the same mentality as their lazy parents.

The changes will be part of a resetting of the role the State plays in our lives.
The govt. Debt pile is about to tip over “peak” and will be tackled.

We will be taken in a direction of more personal responsibility and there will be incentives for “traditional” families and lower tax take from full time workers and risk takers.

Expect a massive reduction in the size of the State.

There is likely to be a % of people who are considered too ill to work or unemployable and everyone else will not get access to in work or health benefits.

NHS will have chargeable services and there will be an incentive to pay for your own health insurance with a rebate on tax if you do.

We now have 51 percent of households accessing benefits. So those households who don’t claim are he minority.

I don’t think the change will come from Tories or Labour. It will be Reform.
Everything they say about Immigrants will also be said about all but the sickest and most needy benefit claimants.

over the last 20 years we have expanded the Welfare State to the point where people are disincentivised to work.

And all those saying “companies should pay more”.
How about you keep more of what you earn, instead of propping up 51% of households.

So I do part time darling. Why would I work full time and miss out on my kid growing up???

It has increased. In fact doubled in about two years. As long as one works and earns that much why force the other? I do all the school runs and look after my three year old. No family. Work at the weekends. Works perfectly.

Very jealous. I work part time. Why would I work full time and miss out on my kids life. So sorry you have to work

Wrong post

True. We do need welfare reform to break the cycle.

Who is going to have one to be honest? Most people can't afford to pay towards one.

I feel sorry for children who never get to see their parents as working full time. Poor kids. Not much of a life really.

Awww, such a great Mum, heaping up all that state debt onto your kids shoulders.

Stop goading.

No debts at all. You best be going to bed to get up early for work. Missing out on your kids life. Feel so sorry for you

Being honest don't you think many women would do the same if given the chance or the threshold to be eligible was higher? I think so.

The u turn by labour was due to rebellion from harder left backbenchers, and I don’t think Reform would have this problem. But yes their manifesto is uncosted and vague in general. But overall the public supports cuts to benefits. I saw a poll that reform supporters back more welfare cuts than other parties.

Hahaha I'm giving what I get back from everyone. People need to open their eyes it's the system not us mums

The thing is it's not a brilliant post, it's actually rather odd. That kind of thinking assumes you can win within a warped system if you try hard enough. Our economic system is based on there being a few "winners" and a lot of "losers". Ask yourself, is it natural and inevitable to live the way we do? Is there nothing artificial in human animals working c75k hours over 40 plus years then retiring and dying? Could we not use our ingenuity to devise other systems not based on exploitation and a lifetime worrying about how to eat and keep a roof over our heads? We're so entrenched in ideas of "personal (over collective) responsibility", climbing ladders, being paid enough to maintain consumerist lifetimes that it's literally killing our planet. What is wrong with not participating in full time paid employment, taking time to care for ourselves and each other?

Scummy mummy comes to mind x

Nope, it’s the system PLUS people like you. I don’t envy you at all, it’s pitiful especially that you’re rubbing it in the faces of the very people who are contributing to your hand outs.

Read the post just posted
It's not about winning or losing.
I'm saying i would rather work part time and be on UC then full time and miss out on things. And yes I'm a scummy mummy if you want to call it that. I'm playing the system
You should try it sometime. Maybe take the broom out if your arse

Ahhh hun go and dry your tears

It’s idealistic. I have thought along the lines you have - but how do you propose we get there?

True. I am married and he has always has been the bread winner, even though now I'm the savings maker.

If his wage wasn't enough for me to be homestay, probably I would be claiming. I have never developed a career even though have been to uni.

We all need to eat. How to put it any other way.

I know people who live on benefits. They never holiday or do day trips. Always home on the telly. They survive but obviously cannot just catch the plane to wherever like many of you.....

YANBU it’s a fucking joke!

Hahaha nope

''@PeonyPatch · Today 19:50
I’d much be a role model for my children than someone sponging from the system.''

Claiming benefits you are entitled to if you need help is not ''sponging from the system''.

I work but having paid taxes for 25 years I would have no issues with claiming if I could no longer work.

Any decent society needs a safety net in place.

The UK has some of the lowest benefits rates and state pension in Europe already anyway.

Maybe it is not a popular opinion, but I also can't help but think that having two parents who work long hours/full time is not great for young kids and their development.