Drug use- what do you find acceptable?

[Rachmumoftwo]

There is a thread that has touched on this already. What is acceptable drug use in your eyes? Is it OK to smoke a little weed when the children are in bed, or take cocaine on weekends or holidays, or is it totally irresponsible to even entertain the idea of drug taking if you are a parent (or if you are planning to be)?

[VictorianSqualor]

Sorry lots of x-posts.

I have to say though I have never seen anyone on E be aggressive, cocaine turns people into monsters.

Many say heroin is the worst drug, don't believe it is, cocaine is seen as socially acceptable amongst large groups of people, which only intensifies it's danger IMO.

[Sidge]

I think if you are responsible for children you shouldn't be using any substance that can alter your perception, be that alcohol or drugs.

If you want to get off your face on booze or recreational pharmaceuticals then do it when you don't have any children to care for, whatever their age.

I agree that health-wise alcohol and smoking are far more damaging over time, but for me it's the unpredictability of drugs that makes them so scary. Some people can take coke or some speed and have a great time, others go bonkers. We had a lad through A&E who had gouged out his girlfriend's eyes then tried to do his own when he had a bad trip. That was enough to put me off drugs forever.

So no, I can't condone drug taking and prefer not to socialise with people that do.

[alittleone2]

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[solo]

I drink alcohol, though my Dp would raise his eyebrows because what I drink is very little really. I don't agree with anything else at all...I don't even take paracetamol!

I fear for my Dc's in this ever more drug and drink abusing world. Atm, my Ds is anti smoking and when we talk about drink and drugs he speaks in a sensible manner...long may that continue.

IMO, my Dp drinks too much alcohol, but he doesn't get shitty about it if he doesn't. He might have a couple of glasses of wine a night. A bottle of wine can last me a week!

[lulumama]

also, a point that has been raised on other threads is that it is all very well being aware of world issues and bieng very politically correct, but teh cocaine you snort after your middle class organic dinner party might well be supporting trafficking and terrorism and all sorts of nasty things.

[booge]

DH and I have been discussing this just this weekend. The conclusion we have come to is that when we are away and the children are being looked after elsewhere it's ok to get drunk or whatever. When we are looking after the children then at least one of us must be fully compos mentis at all times, including the next day.

[duchesse]

Nothing. That's my acceptable level of drug use.

[theBOD]

i think most drugs as long as done in moderation are fine.
personally i stick to ectasy/mdma (maybe 3/4 times a year) and weed (probably twice a week) as i don't like the effect of cocaine on my personality, find hallucinagens quite frankly scary and have never been too interested by ketamine.
of course these should not be taken when in charge of kids but if away for a weekend or on a night out (so long as you don't do too much and have a debilitating come down if you have to mind kids the next day) i think that's fine.
once your habit/enjoyment doesn't become a detrimental effect on your home life or a crutch/addiction i'd have no problem with it.

[duchesse]

lulumama- exactly- what is one person's cute little weekend habit, is another person's live or die livelihood, and yet another person's desperate bid to supply their own habit. It's naive and childish to think that the ones affected by drug use are the people snorting/ shooting up/ smoking. In many ways they are the least relevant in the chain. Apart from the fact that without them the whole sordid structure would collapse.

[Hulababy]

Even with alcohol, I would never drink to excess. DH is the same. I would never get myself into such a state I was not aware of what I was doing or was not capable of doing things for myself. I have never been in that state, ever. True, I would not be able to drive - but that is not an issue - there are taxis, and even an ambulance in case of emergencies, etc. That puts me in no worse a situation than it would someone who could not drive or did not have a car.

[solo]

barnical, I agree with you but for one thing...If somebody has one single drink and then drives a car, has an accident where somebody else is injured or dies, it's the alcohol that will be blamed. This will have a devastating effect on someone somewhere in the world.
I'm in total favour of dedicated drivers. Have someone not drinking who will drive, it's far more sensible IMO.

I've also watched people driving down a dual carriageway swerving across the lanes passing a spliff from one person to another...obviously off their heads. It's just not right.

[barnical]

The bod, you are intitaled to your own opinion and I can see where you are cming from. Yet I find it strange that people can discuss how awful sweat shop clothing is etc, but see drugs as only an end product, with little thought about how it actually got to them, the illegal activity often violent and expolitive issues that go with it. each tab or wrap has a history.

[umberella]

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[totalmisfit]

depending on you predisposition to mental health problems, cannabis can either be no more harmful than the occasional drink, or as potentially debilitating as LSD.

It's really a lottery as to how cannabis affects each individual. personally speaking it has induced panic attacks and paranoia, but then i'm unlucky. If only there was some kind of test a person could take to forsee how cannabis would affect them.

[solo]

Sorry barnical that shouldn't have been aimed at you. I'm with 100%

[solo]

YOU

[barnical]

LOL solo.. I also have issues with drink ( any amount) driving .. but there you go :0

[barnical]

no probs and i meant to not :0 LOL

[solo]

Instead of a test to see how it would affect someone, maybe people need to have their thinking changed and not try any kind of drug in the first place. Not going to happen, I know that, but what exactly does make some people not try anything at all and yet another person happy to try something?

I've never smoked, but my brother did until fairly recently. Just a small example.

[theBOD]

and barnical i'd agree with you totally but the same could be said of alcohol prohibition in america which fuelled gansterism. once legalised it can be controlled. in fact in Ireland we have legal "party pills" which are much stronger than most ectasy and i would not touch them for love nor money due to the effect they have on you.

[solo]

I know what you mean barnical, I don't drink and drive either. right back achya!

[solo]

theBOD, most drugs are NOT fine at all! I'm surprised that you can think that way. Are you going to supervise your kids when they want their first hit? or maybe you'll just join in with them. I think that attitude is so irresponsible!

[magnolia74]

Have been there and done it (not heroin) but in my youth and occasionally when without the kids but can't cope the next day so drugs are off limits now and Alcohol is only if I'm out for the night and parents have kids or Dh is at home with them the next day.

Have seen what cannabis long term has done to close relatives and its not nice Never been my thing which I am now glad of when I look at them!

[alittleone2]

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